<p class="MsoNormal">Translated using ChatGPT and printing for my mom.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">请看：</span><a href="https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/p/chinese-translation-of.html">Thusness
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">真如</span>”/PasserBy
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">过路人</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">开悟的七个阶段</span> - Chinese Translation of
Thusness/PasserBy's Seven Stages of Enlightenment</a><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2025/02/john-tan.html"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯与</span>John Tan<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（真如）的评论</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">ChatGPT <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">翻译</span><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段落</span> 1<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一些关于自我探究（</span>Self-Enquiry<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）与不二（</span>non-duality<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）的肯</span>·<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯</span> (Ken Wilber) <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">文章</span><br />
Soh<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">同时请查看与自我探究相关的文章：</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">通往你真实大我的直接之路</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">拉玛那</span>·<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">马哈希（</span>Ramana Maharshi<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）关于自我探究的开示</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">如果你喜欢这些文字，不妨看看肯</span>·<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯（</span>Ken Wilber<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）的著作《</span>A Simple Feeling of Being<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">》和《</span>A Brief History of Everything<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（万物简史）》</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">以下是一些肯</span>·<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯的文章，阐明并区分了</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">见证者（</span>the Witness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，也就是如实性的第一阶段：我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">与</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不二（</span>non-duality<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，也就是如实性的第四阶段）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"Some Writings on Self-Enquiry and Non-duality by Ken
Wilber<br />
Soh<br />
Also check out related articles on self-enquiry:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">The Direct Path to Your Real Self<br />
Ramana Maharshi's instructions on Self-Enquiry<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">If you like these writings, consider checking out Ken
Wilber's books "A Simple Feeling of Being" and "A Brief History
of Everything"<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Here are some articles by Ken Wilber, which differentiates
and clarifies the Witness (a.k.a. Thusness's Stage 1, the I AM) with
Non-Duality (a.k.a Thusness's Stage 4):<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段落</span> 2<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">有很多事物我可以怀疑，但我无法怀疑此刻自身的意识。我的意识就是，而且即使我试图怀疑它，也仍然是我的意识在怀疑。我可以想象自己的感官正被呈现出一个虚假的现实</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">例如，一个完全虚拟或数码化的世界，看上去像真的，但其实只是一系列极其逼真的图像。然而，即便如此，我也无法怀疑正在进行观看的那个意识</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我当下觉知的无可否认性，我的意识之无可否认性，立刻让我获得当下存在之确定性，获得此刻当下</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">存在</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">之确定。我无法怀疑这一刻的意识和</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">存在</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，因为它是所有知觉、所有看见、所有存在的基础</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是谁？</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一遍又一遍、深入地问自己：</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是谁？是什么在我之中，觉知着一切？</span>’<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">如果你认为自己了解灵性</span>(Spirit)<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，或者你认为自己不了解，事实上在想这两个念头的，都是灵性</span>(Spirit)<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本身。所以你可以怀疑意识的种种对象，但你永远无法真正、令人信服地怀疑那个怀疑者，也不可能真正怀疑整个显现背后的见证者（</span>the
Witness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。因此，安住于见证者之中，无论它认为自己是否了知上帝（</span>God<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）或否，那见证</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那无可否认的当下意识临在（</span>presence<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本身就是上帝（</span>God<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）、灵性</span>(Spirit)<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">、佛心</span>(Buddha-mind)<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。确定性不在意识对象之中，而在对那些对象有所感知的纯粹自觉意识当中。你永远无法看见上帝，因为上帝是那位</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">看见者</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，而不是任何有限的、会死的、受局限的可见之物</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这种纯粹</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>I AM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）状态并不难获得，而是根本无法逃避，因为它永远都在，从未真地被怀疑过。你永远无法逃离灵性</span>(Spirit)<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，因为灵性</span>(Spirit)<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就是那个奔跑者。直白地说，灵性</span>(Spirit)<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不是难找，而是无法避开：它就是这一刻正在看着这一页的那个觉知者。你能感受到</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那个一</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">吗？你究竟为什么要到处寻找上帝，而上帝其实正是那个在</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">看</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的主体呢？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">只需问：</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是谁？我是谁？我是谁？</span>’<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我能觉知自己的感受，所以我不等同于感受</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那我是谁？我能觉知自己的念头，所以我并不等同于念头</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那我是谁？就像云在天空中飘过，念头在心中飘过，感受在身体中飘过</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">而我并不等同于那些，因为我能见证（</span>Witness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）这一切。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">此外，我可以怀疑云的存在，我可以怀疑感受的存在，我可以怀疑思想对象的存在</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但我不可能怀疑此刻见证者的存在，因为即便是怀疑，也仍然由那个见证者来见证。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我不是自然界中的客体，不是身体里的感受，也不是心中的念头，因为我能见证这一切。我就是那个见证者</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一个广阔、广大、空灵、清澈、纯净、透明的开阔性，它不偏不倚地觉知所有生起的事物，就像镜子会自然而然地映照所有对象</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你已经能感受到部分大解脱，因为当你安坐于此刻的观察中时，你已体会到自己摆脱了仅仅是物体、感觉、思维那窒息般的束缚</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">它们都来来去去，而你正是那浩瀚、自由、空灵、开放的见证者，不受它们的折磨和痛苦所侵扰。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“There are many things that I can doubt, but I cannot doubt
my own consciousness in this moment. My consciousness IS, and even if I tried
to doubt it, it would be my consciousness doubting. I can imagine that my
senses are being presented with a fake reality – say, a completely virtual
reality or digital reality, which looks real but is merely a series of
extremely realist images. But even then, I cannot doubt the consciousness that
is doing the watching…<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">The very undeniability of my present awareness, the
undeniability of my consciousness, immediately delivers to me a certainty of
existence in this moment, a certainty of Being in the now-ness of this moment.
I cannot doubt consciousness and Being in this moment, for it is the ground of
all knowing, all seeing, all existing…<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Who am I? Ask that question over and over again, deeply. Who
am I? What is it in me that is conscious of everything?<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">If you think that you know Spirit, or if you think you
don’t, Spirit is actually that which is thinking both of those thoughts. So you
can doubt the objects of consciousness, but you can never believably doubt the
doubter, never really doubt the Witness of the entire display. Therefore, rest
in the Witness, whether it is thinking that it knows God or not, and that
witnessing, that undeniable immediacy of now-consciousness, is itself God,
Spirit, Buddha-mind. The certainty lies in the pure self-felt Consciousness to
which objects appear, not in the objects themselves. You will never, never,
never see God, because God is the Seer, not any finite, mortal, bounded object
that can be seen…<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">This pure I AM state is not hard to achieve but impossible
to escape, because it is ever present and can never really be doubted. You can
never run from Spirit, because Spirit is the Runner. To put it very bluntly,
Spirit is not hard to find but impossible to avoid: it is that which is looking
at this page right now. Can’t you feel That One? Why on earth do you keep
looking for God when God is actually the Looker?<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Simply ask, Who am I? Who am I? Who am I?<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I am aware of my feelings, so I am not my feelings – Who am
I? I am aware of my thoughts, so I am not my thoughts – Who am I? Clouds float
by in the sky, thoughts float by in the mind, feelings float by in the body –
and I am none of those because I can Witness them all.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Moreover, I can doubt that clouds exist, I can doubt that
feelings exist, I can doubt that objects of thought exist – but I cannot doubt
that the Witness exists in this moment, because the Witness would still be
there to witness the doubt.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I am not objects in nature, not feelings in the body, not
thoughts in the mind, for I can Witness them all. I am that Witness – a vast,
spacious, empty, clear, pure, transparent Openness that impartially notices all
that arises, as a mirror spontaneously reflects all its objects…<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">You can already feel some of this Great Liberation in that,
as you rest in the ease of witnessing this moment, you already feel that you
are free from the suffocating constriction of mere objects, mere feelings, mere
thoughts – they all come and go, but you are that vast, free, empty, open
Witness of them all, untouched by their torments and tortures.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段落</span> 3<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这实际上是</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">对纯粹神圣大我的（</span>the pure divine Self<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）重要发现，也就是无形的见证者（</span>the formless Witness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）、根源的虚空（</span>causal nothingness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）、那广大之空性（</span>Emptiness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），整个世界都在其中生起、片刻停留，然后又消逝。而你就是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那个</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。你不是身体，不是小我，不是大自然，不是念头，不是此、不是彼</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你是一片广阔的空性、自由、解脱与解放。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">借由这个发现</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你等于是走完了一半的归途。你不再把自己认同于任何有生灭的客体，而是安住于无量的意识之中。你是自由的、敞开的、空的、清明的、闪耀的、解脱的、获得自在的、浸润于超越时空的极乐空明（空乐明）之中，超越痛苦、死亡以及一切障碍。你找到了那伟大的无生（</span>the
great Unborn<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），那无底的深渊（</span>Abyss<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），那无法被限定的一切万有之基，涵盖了万古、现在以及所有未来。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但是，为什么说这只是走完了一半归途？因为当你安住于无量的意识，自发地觉察所有正在生起的事物，不久之后就会出现一个极为重大的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">自由与圆满的灾变</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：连</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">见证者</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本身都会彻底消失</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">到那时，你就不再是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在见证天空</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，而是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">成为天空</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">；你不再是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">触碰大地</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，而是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">成为大地</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">；你不再是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">听见雷声</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，而是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">成为雷声</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。你与整个宇宙（</span>Kosmos<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）成为一味（</span>One Taste<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你一口就能喝下整个太平洋，把珠穆朗玛峰托在你的掌心；超新星在你心中旋转，太阳系取代了你的头</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你就是这一味（</span>One
Taste<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），如同一面与任意所现之物合而为一的空明镜子，一个无思无虑的广大透明境界：无限、永恒、光耀，超越解脱。而你</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就是</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那个</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">因此，最根本的笛卡尔式二元分裂</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也就是主观与客观、</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在里面</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">与</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在外面</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">、</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">空性的见证者</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">与</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">被见证的万物</span>’——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">最终在</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不二的一味</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">中被解构并克服。只有当你真正、充分地触及那个见证者时，才能超越它进入真正的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不二</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，这意味着</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">走到一半的归途</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">才最终抵达全然圆满之归家</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就在这无时不在的奇妙当下</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那么，如何知道自己有没有真正克服笛卡尔式二元对立？其实很简单：如果你确实克服了二元对立，那么你就不会再觉得自己好像在脸的这一侧凝视着外面的世界。只剩下世界本身，而你也就是那一切；你会真切地感到自己与所有当下刹那生起的事物合而为一，不再觉得自己是在</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这边</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">看着</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那边</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">里面</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">和</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">外面</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">已经以一种激荡的、毫无疑问的确定性和深刻程度合二为一，好像五吨巨石迎面砸来</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">要说的话，那种感觉可不容易被忽视。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就在那一刻（其实这就是你无时无刻都具足的本来状态），没有任何与此特定有机体的排他性认同，没有头脑被束缚在头部的错觉，使你误以为</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">坐在头中向外观世界；也没有将注意力局限于个体身心的束缚：取而代之的，是与你所见一切现象融为一体的意识</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一片广阔、开阔、透明、璀璨、无限自由又无限圆满的领域，拥抱整个宇宙（</span>Kosmos<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），使每一个主观与每一个客观在这</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一味</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的伟大拥抱中交融无间。你不再局限于</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在眼睛后面</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的位置，而是成为万物；你能直接而切实地感到，你的根本身份就是那一刻又一刻生起的所有事物（就像先前你觉得自己是这个有局限、分离、生灭的血肉之躯）。内与外已成为一味。我告诉你，它就这样发生！</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（引自：《</span>Boomeritis<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">》，边栏</span> E<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">天才笛卡尔的后现代痛击：后现代时代的整体史学</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。更多内容详见《</span>The Simple Feeling of Being<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">》，这是一部选自肯</span>·<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯各出版著作中具有启示性、神秘性和指导性段落的合集，基于他的亲身体验。）</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“This is actually the profound discovery of… the pure divine
Self, the formless Witness, causal nothingness, the vast Emptiness in which the
entire world arises, stays a bit, and passes. And you are That. You are not the
body, not the ego, not nature, not thoughts, not this, not that – you are a
vast Emptiness, Freedom, Release, and Liberation.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">With this discovery… you are halfway home. You have
disidentified from any and all finite objects; you rest as infinite
Consciousness. You are free, open, empty, clear, radiant, released, liberated,
exalted, drenched in a blissful emptiness that exists prior to space, prior to
time, prior to tears and terror, prior to pain and mortality and suffering and
death. You have found the great Unborn, the vast Abyss, the unqualifiable
Ground of all that is, and all that was, and all that ever shall be.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">But why is that only halfway home? Because as you rest in
the infinite ease of consciousness, spontaneously aware of all that is arising,
there will soon enough come the great catastrophe of Freedom and Fullness: the
Witness itself will disappear entirely, and instead of witnessing the sky, you
are the sky; instead of touching the earth, you are the earth; instead of
hearing the thunder, you are the thunder. You and the entire Kosmos because One
Taste – you can drink the Pacific Ocean in a single gulp, hold Mt. Everest in
the palm of your hand; supernovas swirl in your heart and the solar system
replaces your head…<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">You are One Taste, the empty mirror that is one with any and
all objects that arise in its embrace, a mindlessly vast translucent expanse:
infinite, eternal, radiant beyond release. And you… are… That…<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">So the primary Cartesian dualism – which is simply the
dualism between… in here and out there, subject and object, the empty Witness
and all things witnessed – is finally undone and overcome in nondual One Taste.
Once you actually and fully contact the Witness, then – and only then – can it
be transcended into radical Nonduality, and halfway home becomes fully home,
here in the ever-present wonder of what is…<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">And so how do you know that you have finally and really overcome
the Cartesian dualism? Very simple: if you really overcome the Cartesian
dualism, then you no longer feel that you are on this side of your face looking
at the world out there. There is only the world, and you are all of that; you
actually feel that you are one with everything that is arising moment to
moment. You are not merely on this side of your face looking out there. “In
here” and “out there” have become One Taste with a shuddering obviousness and
certainty so profound it feels like a five-ton rock just dropped on your head.
It is, shall we say, a feeling hard to miss.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">At that point, which is actually your ever-present
condition, there is no exclusive identity with this particular organism, no
constriction of consciousness to the head, a constriction that makes it seem
that “you” are in the head looking at the rest of the world out there; there is
no binding of attention to the personal bodymind: instead, consciousness is one
with all that is arising – a vast, open, transparent, radiant, infinitely Free
and infinitely Full expanse that embraces the entire Kosmos, so that every
single subject and every single object are erotically united in the Great
Embrace of One Taste. You disappear from merely being behind your eyes, and you
become the All, you directly and actually feel that your basic identity is
everything that is arising moment to moment (just as previously you felt that
your identity was with this finite, partial, separate, mortal coil of flesh you
call a body). Inside and outside have become One Taste. I tell you, it can
happen just like that!<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(Source: Boomeritis, Sidebar E: “The Genius Descartes Gets a
Postmodern Drubbing: Integral Historiography in a Postmodern Age”. More to be
found in The Simple Feeling of Being, a collection of Ken Wilber’s
inspirational, mystical and instructional passages drawn from his publications,
based on his experiences.)<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段落</span> 4<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不二层次（</span>The
Nondual Level</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在前一个层次里，你是如此沉浸于无显（</span>unmanifest<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）的层面，以至于你也许根本不会注意到显现界的存在。你正在发现空寂（</span>Emptiness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），因此你对形相（</span>Form<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）不理睬。然而在终极或不二层次，你会把二者整合起来。你会看到空寂显现（或自我展现）为形相，也看到形相之本质即是空寂。从更具体的角度看，你所称的一切，都只是当下正在生起的诸显现，而这一切显现都在刹那刹那地如戏般从空寂中流现。如果根源的虚空（</span>causal
nothingness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）就像一轮散发月光的夜晚，那么这个层次就如同一个明媚的秋日。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在外面看似坚硬或固体的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那边</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">之物，其实只是你本然的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">存在</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">或</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">真如</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>Being/Isness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）之透明、透亮的展现。它们并不是对神（</span>God<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）的阻碍，而只是神的体现。因此它们是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">空</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的，意味着它们并不构成任何阻隔或障碍。它们是神性的自由表达。就如大手印（</span>Mahamudra<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）传统所言：</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一切唯心（</span>All is Mind<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），心是空（</span>Mind is Empty<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），空是自然妙用（</span>Empty is freely-manifesting<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），自然妙用自自行解脱（</span>Freely manifesting is
self-liberating<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你在根源的空寂之层次找到的自由</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">即圆满与空性的双重自由</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在这里会被发现同样扩展到所有事物，甚至包括这个</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">堕落</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的罪恶或轮回（</span>samsara<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）之世界。因此，一切事物都得自行解脱。这是一种非同寻常的自由、或无拘无束、或完全的释放</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这清澈明亮的秋日</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这就是你在此阶段真正经历到的。不过，</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">经历</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这个词其实并不准确。这种觉悟实际上是对灵性（</span>Spirit<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）之</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无经历本性（</span>the nonexperiential nature<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的认知。经历有生有灭，都在时间中开始，也在时间中终结；即便是细微的经历，也会生起、又会消失。它们都奇妙、壮丽、殊胜，却仍是会来来去去。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">而这种不二的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">状态</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本身并不是另一种经历。它只是让各种经历生起又落下的开敞或显露（</span>the opening or clearing<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），就像明朗的秋日天空，让云朵来来去去</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但它本身并不是另一片云、另一个经历、另一个客体、或另一次显现。此处的认知其实在于，去努力</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">体验</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">解脱是完全没有结果的，想要</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">经历</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">解脱根本是徒劳</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一切经历都会完全失去它们的味道，只不过是浮云而已。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">并不是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">体验了</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">解脱</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">；而是说，你就是那个开敞、那个空性，在其中所有经历都会生起又消失，就像镜子里的映像；而你是那面</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">镜子</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，是明镜心（</span>mirror mind<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），而不是任何所觉察到的映像。然而，你并不是与这些映像分开、从一边看着它们；你就是此刻生起的所有事物。你可以一口吞下整个宇宙，因为它对你来说如此渺小；你可以不费吹灰之力地品尝天空。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这就是为什么禅宗会说：</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你无法进入大三昧（</span>the Great Samadhi<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”(Soh:<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这是指所谓的“大定无出入”</span>)<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，因为它其实就是始终不动、始终不离的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">开敞</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">或</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">显露</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，在其中所有的经历</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">以及所有的显现</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">都在一刻又一刻地生起。似乎你</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">进入</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">了此种状态，但一旦你在其中，你会发现它从来没有不在，从来也没有一刻不被充分了悟</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这就是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无门之门（</span>the gateless gate<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。因此，你会深切地理解，你不曾进入过这个状态；过去的或未来的诸佛也未曾</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">进入</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这个状态。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在大圆满（</span>Dzogchen<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）中，这便是对</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">心性（</span>nature of mind<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的认知。三界中一切事物，都在它们生起的当下便已自行解脱。如水塘中的日光，闪耀不已。一切都是空的，一切都是光，一切都是圆满，一切都已圆满。而世界便以它寻常的样貌运转，没有任何人注意到这一切。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">脚注</span>/</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">附注（如有）：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal">The Nondual Level<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"In the previous level, you are so absorbed in the
unmanifest dimensions that you might not even notice the manifest world. You
are discovering Emptiness, and so you ignore Form. But at the ultimate or
nondual level, you integrate the two. You see that Emptiness appears or
manifests itself as Form, and that Form has as its essence Emptiness. In more
concrete terms, what you all is all things that arise. All manifestation
arises, moment by moment, as a play of Emptiness. If the causal was like a radiant
moonlit night, this is like a radiant autumn day.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">What appear as hard or solid objects “out there” are really
transparent and translucent manifestations of your own Being or Isness. They
are not obstacles to God, only expressions of God. They are therefore empty in
the sense of not being an obstruction or impediment. They are a free expression
of the Divine. As the Mahamudra tradition succinctly puts it, “ All is Mind.
Mind is Empty. Empty is freely-manifesting. Freely manifesting is
self-liberating.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">The freedom that you found at the causal level- the freedom
of Fullness and Emptiness- that freedom is found to extend to all things, even
to this “fallen” world of sin or samsara. Therefore, all things become
self-liberated. And this is extraordinary freedom, or absence of restriction,
or total release- this clear bright autumn day- this is what you actually
experience at this point. But then “experience” is the wrong word all together.
This realization is actually of the nonexperiential nature of Spirit. Experiences
come and go. They all have a beginning in time, and an end in time. Even subtle
experiences come and go. They are all wonderful, glorious, extraordinary. And
they come and they go.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">But this nondual “state” is not itself another experience.
It is simply the opening or clearing in which all experiences arise and fall.
It is the bright autumn sky through which the clouds come and go- it is not
itself another cloud, another experience, another object, another
manifestation. This realization is actually of the utter fruitlessness of
experiences, the utter futility of trying to experience release or liberation.
All experiences lose their taste entirely- these passing clouds.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">You are not the one who experiences liberation; you are the
clearing, the opening, the emptiness, in which any experience comes and goes,
like reflections on the mirror. And you are the mirror, the mirror mind, and
not any experienced reflection. But you are not apart from the reflections,
standing back and watching. You are everything that is arising moment to
moment. You can swallow the whole cosmos in one gulp, it is so small, and you
can taste the sky without moving an inch.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">That is why in Zen, it is said that you cannot enter the
Great Samadhi: it is actually the opening or clearing that is ever present, and
in which all experience- and all manifestation- arises moment to moment. It
seems like you “enter” this state, except that once there, you realize that
there never was a time this state was not fully present and fully recognized- “
the gateless gate.” And so you deeply understand that you never entered this
state; nor did the Buddhas, past or future, ever enter this state.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">In Dzogchen, this is the recognition of mind’s true nature.
All things, in all worlds, are self-liberated as they arise. All things are
like sunlight on the water of a pond. It all shimmers. It is all empty. It is
all light. It is all full, and it is all fulfilled. And the world goes on it
ordinary way, and nobody notices at all.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Wilber, K. (1999). Stages of Spirituality. Collected Works,
vol.4, pg.361-362.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">以下译文将继续从</span>“From
‘A Brief History of Everything (Second Edition)’, Ken Wilber: The Nondual”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段落开始，并采用您提出的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明镜心（</span>mirror mind<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">表述。同时我们会继续严格遵循先提供译文、再提供原文的双语对照格式。若因篇幅过长导致无法在单条消息中全部容纳，我们将注明</span>“[<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，并于后续消息从中断处继续翻译。</span><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段落</span> 1<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">选自《万物简史（第二版）》（</span>A
Brief History of Everything, Second Edition<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），肯</span>·<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯（</span>Ken
Wilber<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）：</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不二（</span>The
Nondual</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">问：</span></b> “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那么，这个</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">根源无显</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>causal unmanifest<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）就是真正的终点吗？这是否意味着时间的终结、进化的终结、历史的终结？也就是那个最终的欧米伽点（</span>Omega
point<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">肯</span>·</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯（</span>KW</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）：</span></b> “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">嗯，很多传统确实把这种止息状态视作最终状态，即所有发展与进化的终极终点。而这个终点也被视为圆满开悟、终极解脱、纯粹涅槃（</span>nirvana<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但对不二（</span>Nondual<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）传统而言，这并非</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">终极故事（</span>final story<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。因为在某个时刻，当你深入探究那个见证者（</span>the Witness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），并安住于见证者中时，那个</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在这里的见证者</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">感</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本来仿佛就像一个</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我在里面</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的感受</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也会完全消失，你会发现见证者原来就是所见万物本身。根源的虚空让位于不二（</span>the
Nondual<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），无形（</span>formless<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）的神秘体验让位于不二的神秘体验。</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">色即是空，空即是色。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">从技术上讲，你已经与见证者本身也</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">脱离认同</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，接着又把它融入所有显现之中</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">换句话说，这就是从第九道次的第二、第三阶段一路走向第十道次（</span>fulcrum-10<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），而后者其实并不是一个独立的道次或层面，而是超越或涵摄了所有层次、所有状态、所有境况的真实面貌或</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本来如是（</span>Suchness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这就是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">空（</span>Emptiness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的第二层、也是最深一层的涵义</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">它不仅仅是一个可辨别的状态，而是所有状态的真实性或</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本来如是（</span>Suchness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。它并不是在其他状态之上的、与其他状态并立的某个特殊状态，而是任何状态（不论高低、神圣或世俗、平凡或非凡）所具有的本来实情。回想我们在图</span>
9-1 <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">中看到的：灵性（</span>Spirit<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）既是最高层（</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">根源的空寂</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），也是无处不在、遍及一切层的地基（</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不二</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">问：</span></b> “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">空性具有两层含义吗？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">肯</span>·</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯：</span></b> “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是的，这会让人十分困惑。一方面，正如我们所见，它指的是一个独立可辨的觉知状态</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也就是无显定或止息（</span>nirvikalpa Samadhi, ayn,
jnana Samadhi, nirodh<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，以及传统意义上的涅槃）。这是根源的虚空，一个可辨的状态。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">另一方面，空性并不仅仅是一种在其他状态之上的特殊</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">状态</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，而是所有状态的真实、或本来如是、或根本所依。并不是与其他状态并立的某种</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">额外状态</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，而是任何状态的真实面、或本来条件，高或低、神圣或不圣、平凡或非凡，概莫能外。还记得我们在图</span>
9-1 <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">中同时将</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">灵性</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">视为最高层（</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">根源的空寂</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）以及一切层面中永远当下的</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不二</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">吗？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">问：</span></b> “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我们已经讨论过可辨别的</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">根源状态</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">；现在来谈谈不二吧。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">肯</span>·</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯：</span></b> “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">好啊。这种</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不二本来如是</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">之</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">体验</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，类似于我们先前讨论的</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">自然合一体验（</span>nature unity experience<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，只是现在这种合一感并不只针对外在的色身（</span>gross Form<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），还包括内在的细微色身（</span>subtle Form<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。用佛教术语来说，这不只是化身界（</span>Nirmanakaya<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也就是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">对大自然的神秘体验（</span>nature
mysticism<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">；也不只是报身界（</span>Sambhogakaya<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也就是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">对本尊的神秘体验（</span>deity
mysticism<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">；更不只是法身界（</span>Dharmakaya<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也就是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无形禅定（</span>formless
mysticism<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">；而是自性身（</span>Svabhavikakaya<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">把这三者融为一体。它超越了自然禅、本尊禅和无形禅，却也将它们全部拥抱于其中。它拥抱整个意识之光谱</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">超越一切，又包含一切。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">问：</span></b> “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这个说法有点专业化。有没有一种更直观的方式来解释不二神秘体验？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">肯</span>·</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯：</span></b> “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在所有传统中，</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不二</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">都有这样一个特征：对</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">作为任何能见者或见证者的自我</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">之感受完全消失。你不会再</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">看着天空</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，而是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">成为天空</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，你甚至可以</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">品味天空</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。它不在外头。用禅宗的表达，你可以一口喝下太平洋，你可以</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">吞没</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">整个宇宙，因为此刻的意识不再分裂为</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在里头</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的主体和</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在外头</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的客体。这就是纯粹的</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">看</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。觉知与它的呈现不二无别。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">万事万物仍旧瞬息生起</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">整个宇宙持续在每一刻生起</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但没有一个</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">人在一旁观望</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，只有自发而明亮的展示，一种极度圆满的展现。纯粹的空性（</span>the pure
Emptiness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）之见证者，原来就是被见证的一切形相，每一个形相都不与它分割。</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不二</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">正是这个核心含义之一。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">问：</span></b> “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你能再具体一点吗？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">肯</span>·</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯：</span></b> “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">嗯，你可以先</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">进入见证状态（</span>the Witness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，也就是说，你只需安住于纯粹的觉知当中</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你不是可见的任何对象：不是大自然、不是身体、不是念头，而只是纯粹的见证觉知。你会对这种见证觉知有一种</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">感受</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，感到一种自由、松弛、广大之感。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当你安住于这种状态，</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">感受</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">到见证者犹如一个巨大宽广的空间时，如果你转而看向一座山，也许你就会注意到：</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">见证者的感觉</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">和</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这座山的感觉</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是同一个感觉。换言之，真实世界并不会被你分配成两份</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一个在外头，一个在里头。那种</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">两次显现（</span>twiceness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">正是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">二元</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的意义。但真实世界只给你一次、当下的一种感觉，它是一个单数，其复数形态从来无人得见。你可以</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">尝到</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那座山，它和你的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">自性</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是同一种味道，你不会认为外头有一个山，这里头有一个自我映射它</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">二者之间并无隔阂。在真实的直接经验中，在你切分它之前，不曾存在任何二元。真实经验本身、现实本身就是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不二的</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。你依然是你，山依然是山，但你与山只是同一体验的两面，而这是当下唯一的现实。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当你向当下经验中放松时，</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">分离自我</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">便会松解；你不再从生活中退缩；不是你在</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">经历</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，而是你</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">成为所有经历</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">；你不在</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">里头</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">看着</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">外头</span>’——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">因为在里头与在外头已成一味，因此你再也不会被困在所谓</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">此中</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这样一来，你就不会局限于这个身心之中。突然之间，这个身心已不复存在。突然之间，风不再吹向你，而是吹进你、穿透你；你不是在看山，你就是那座山</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这座山比你的皮肤还要更亲近；你就是那一切，不再有一个</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。一切都在每一刻自然地显现，而你已无处可寻。</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">重量</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">感彻底消失，因为你不再</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">置身于</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">宇宙之中，而是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">宇宙置身于你</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">之中，而你是最纯粹的空性。整个宇宙就是一片透明的神圣闪耀；但这个神圣并不在别处，而正是一切当下所显的总和</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">自证自明，独具一味；唯此一味，没有别的。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">问：</span></b> “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也就是说主客不二吗？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">肯</span>·</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯：</span></b> “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你知道禅宗的公案：</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一只手鼓掌的声音是什么？</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">平时我们需要双手才能拍掌，这就是典型的经验结构：我们会感到自己是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在里面</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的主体，外界是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在外面</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的客体，两者相互碰撞发出动静，也就是种种经历（</span>experience<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。外在之物撞上内部之我，就像两只手掌击打在一起，产生一次经历，而平凡自我就成了</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">挨打</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的那个自我</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">总是被外界</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">打</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">得伤痕累累。普通自我由无数挫折、创伤、伤疤组成，也就是这些主体</span>-<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">客体碰撞的结果。佛法称之为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">苦（</span>dukkha<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。就像克里希那穆提（</span>Krishnamurti<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）说的，在主、客之间的缝隙里，就存在了人类的所有苦难。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">可是一旦进入不二状态，突然之间，你就发现其实只有</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一只手</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。骤然之间，主与客不复存在，整个外在也不再与你相撞，不会再给你带来伤痛或苦难。突然之间，你不再</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">经历</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">什么，你就是所生起的一切，因此你当下就被释放进了无边的时空：在那一刻，你与你所见的整个宇宙是一只手、一种经验、一场绚烂的呈现、一种大圆满的显现。外面已无他物可以击打你、折磨你、夺走你</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你的灵魂扩展到宇宙的边缘，以无限的欢欣拥抱一切。你是彻底的圆满，彻底的丰盈，边界都在这无限之中崩解，时间、方位俱已消融，沉浸在无限的关怀里。你以</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">整体</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的方式被释放，也就是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">成为</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一切</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">万物自明地相互印证，你就是那不二的一味；这滋味无限。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">所以，一只手鼓掌的声音是什么？当外面再无他物可以击打你、折磨你、牵引你、拉扯你</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那一只手鼓掌发出的声音是什么？当下这一味又是什么？当没什么能阻碍你时，这一只手发出的声音便是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">大爆炸</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>Big Bang<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）的轰鸣，是超新星在太空中的爆炸声，是知更鸟的啼鸣，是晶莹澄澈的晴天里瀑布的轰响，是整个显现宇宙的声音</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">而你就是那个声音。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这也是为什么你的本来面目（</span>Original
Face<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）不在</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">内</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。它是这光明清澈、无处不在的呈现之</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">纯粹空性</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">或</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">透明性</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。如果宇宙此刻在生起，那你就是它；如果什么都不生起，你也是它。无论如何，你就是它。无论如何，你都不在</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">里面</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。那扇透明的窗子已被击碎，你的身心落空，你永远不再被囚禁在</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">头脑后方</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">去看着宇宙</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你就是宇宙。你即是一切。正因为如此，你能一口吞下宇宙，跨越世纪而一动不动。那一只手鼓掌所发出的声音，是恒星诞生和爆炸的声音，是知更鸟的啼鸣、清澈日子的瀑布之声、整个显现世界之声</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">而你就是这个声音。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也因此，你的本来面目（</span>Original
Face<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）并不在这里面。它是这闪亮无碍的透明之</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">空</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，是这一切当下显现的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">自见</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。如果宇宙正在生起，你就是那；如果宇宙不生起，你也是那。无论如何，你都是那。因为你不在</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这里面</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。那面窗早已破碎，主客之间毫无间隙，不再有二元的痕迹</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">世界从来只给你</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一次</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，就是这纯粹的当下</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">而你就是这当下。你就是这一味。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这个状态并不是通过后天营造就能获得；不二本来便是所有经验的本质，在你对它做任何事情之前就已然如此。这个无造作状态本自先天就有</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">先于任何抓取、回避乃至任何努力。在你对其施加任何塑造或改造之前，真实世界就已然不二。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">因此，你不必做任何特别的事去让觉知或经验变得</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不二</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，它起初就不二，乃是一切状态的自性</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">超越一切用力和想象。若在此状态下有</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">努力</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">生起，那也无妨；若没有努力生起，也同样无妨；无论如何都只有当下的一味，没有所谓努力或不努力的分别。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">所以，这完全不是一个</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">难以进入的状态</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，恰恰相反，它是不可能被回避的，因为它一直都在。自无量亿万年起，从未有一刻你不在觉知这一味；从未有一秒钟它没有在你本来面目前以极度冰凉透彻的空气袭来。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当然，我们常常对自己说谎，不愿承认这一点，我们对自己的本来面目（</span>the
universe of One Taste<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">、你自己的</span>Original
Face<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）经常不愿面对，不愿说出真相。不二传统的目标不是让我们去</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">创造</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这种状态（因为这是不可能的），而是要指认它，让我们没法再忽视它、对自己继续撒谎。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（来源：《</span>A
Brief History of Everything</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">》。更多内容可见《</span>The
Simple Feeling of Being</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">》，一部肯</span>·</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯精选自其出版著作、基于其亲身体验的启示性、神秘性及指导性文段合集。）</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">From “A Brief History of Everything (Second Edition)”, Ken
Wilber:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">The Nondual<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Q: So this casual unmanifest – is that the absolute end
point? Is this the end of time, the end of evolution, the end of history? The
final Omega point?<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">KW: Well, many traditions take this state of cessation to be
the ultimate state, the final end point of all development and evolution, yes.
And this end state is equated with full Enlightenment, ultimate release, pure
nirvana.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">But this is not the “final story,” according to the Nondual
traditions. Because at some point, as you inquire into the Witness, and rest in
the Witness, the sense of being a Witness “in here” completely vanishes itself,
and the Witness turns out to be everything that is witnessed. The causal gives
way to the Nondual, and formless mysticism gives way to nondual mysticism.
“Form is Emptiness and Emptiness is Form.”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Technically, you have dis-identified with even the Witness,
and then integrated it with all manifestation – in other words, the second and
third phases of fulcrum-9, which leads to fulcrum-10, which is not really a
separate fulcrum or level, but the reality or Suchness of all levels, all
states, all conditions.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">And this is the second and most profound meaning of
Emptiness - it is not a discrete state, but the reality of all states, the
Suchness of all states. You have moved from the causal to the Nondual.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Q: Emptiness has two meanings?<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">KW: Yes, which can be very confusing. On one hand, as we
just saw, it is a discrete, identifiable state of awareness – namely,
unmanifest absorption or cessation (nirvikalpa Samadhi, ayn, jnana Samadhi,
nirodh, classical nirvana). This is the causal state, a discrete state.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">The second meaning is that Emptiness is not merely a
particular state among other states, but rather the reality or suchness or
condition of all states. Not a particular state apart from other states, but
the reality or condition of all states, high or low, sacred or profane,
ordinary or extraordinary. Recall that on figure 9-1 we had Spirit as both the
highest level (“causal”) and the ever-present Ground of all levels (“nondual”).<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Q: We already discussed the discrete state; now the Nondual.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">KW: Yes, the “experience” of this nondual Suchness is
similar to the nature unity experience we earlier discussed, except now this
unity is experienced not just with gross Form out there, but also with all of
the subtle Form in here. In Buddhist terms, this is not just the Nirmanakaya –
gross or nature mysticism and not just the Sambhogakaya – subtle or deity
mysticism; and not just the Dharmakaya – causal or formless mysticism. It is
the Svabhavikakaya – the integration of all three of them. It is beyond nature
mysticism, beyond deity mysticism, and beyond formless mysticism – it is the
reality or the Suchness of each, and thus integrates each in its embrace. It
embraces the entire spectrum of consciousness – transcends all, includes all.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Q: Again, rather technical. Perhaps there’s a more direct
way to talk about Nondual mysticism?<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Kw: Across the board, the sense of being any sort of Seer or
Witness or Self vanishes altogether. You don’t look at the sky, you are the
sky. You can taste the sky. It’s not out there. As Zen would say, you can drink
the Pacific Ocean in a single gulp, you can swallow the Kosmos whole –
precisely because awareness is no longer split into a seeing subject in here
and a seen object out there. There is just pure seeing. Consciousness and its
display are not-two.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Everything continues to arise moment to moment – the entire
Kosmos continues to arise moment to moment – but there is nobody watching the
display, there is just the display, a spontaneous and luminous gesture of great
perfection. The pure Emptiness of the Witness turns out to be one with every
Form that is witnessed, and that is one of the basic meanings of “nonduality.”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Q: Again, could you be even more specific?<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Kw: Well, you might begin by getting into the state of
Witness – that is, you simply rest in pure observing awareness – you are not
any object that can be seen – not nature, not body, not thoughts – just rest in
that pure witnessing awareness. And you can get a certain “sensation” of that
witnessing awareness – a sensation of freedom, of release, of great expanse.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">While you are resting in that state, and “sensing” this
Witness as a great expanse, if you then look at, say, a mountain, you might
begin to notice that the sensation of the Witness and the sensation of the
mountain are the same sensation. When you “feel” your pure Self and you “feel”
the mountain, they are absolutely the same feeling.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">In other words, the real world is not given to you twice –
one out there, one in here. That "twiceness" is exactly the meaning
of "duality." Rather, the real world is given to you once,
immediately – it is one feeling, it has one taste, it is utterly full in that
one taste, it is not severed into seer and seen, subject and object, fragment
and fragment. It is a singular, of which the plural is unknown. You can taste
the mountain; it is the same taste as your Self; it is not out there being
reflected in here – that duality is not present in the immediateness of real
experience. Real experience, before you slice it up, does not contain that
duality – real experience, reality itself, is "non-dual." You are
still you, and the mountain is still the mountain, but you and the mountain are
two sides of one and the same experience, which is the one and only reality at
that point. If you relax into present experience in that fashion, the
separate-self sense will uncoil; you will stop standing back from life; you
will not have experience, you will suddenly become all experience; you will not
be “in here” looking “out there” – in here and out there are one, so you are no
longer trapped “in here.”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">And so suddenly, you are not in the bodymind. Suddenly, the
bodymind has dropped. Suddenly, the wind doesn't blow on you, it blows through
you, within you. You are not looking at the mountain, you are the mountain–the
mountain is closer to you than your own skin. You are that, and there is no you
– just this entire luminous display spontaneously arising moment to moment. The
separate self is nowhere to be found. The entire sensation of “weight” drops
altogether, because you are not in the Kosmos, the Kosmos is in you, and you
are purest Emptiness. The entire universe is a transparent shimmering of the
Divine, of primordial Purity. But the Divine is not someplace else, it is just
all of this shimmering. It is self-seen. It has One Taste. It is nowhere else.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Q: Subject and object are nondual?<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">KW: You know the Zen koan, "What is the sound of one
hand clapping?" Usually, of course, we need two hands to clap – and that
is the structure of typical experience. We have a sense of ourselves as a
subject in here, and the world as an object out there. We have these "two
hands" of experience, the subject and the object. And typical experience
is a smashing of these two hands together to make a commotion, a sound. The
object out there smashes into me as a subject, and I have an experience – the
two hands clap together and experience emerges. And so the typical structure of
experience is like a punch in the face. The ordinary self is the battered self
– it is utterly battered by the universe "out there." The ordinary
self is a series of bruises, of scars, the results of these two hands of
experience smashing together. This bruising is called "dukkha,"
suffering. As Krishnamurti used to say, in that gap between the subject and the
object lies the entire misery of humankind. But with the nondual state,
suddenly there are not two hands. Suddenly, the subject and the object are one
hand. Suddenly, there is nothing outside of you that can hit you, hurt you,
push you, pull you – what is the sound of that one hand clapping? Suddenly, you
do not have an experience, you are every experience that arises, and so you are
instantly released into all space: you and the entire Kosmos are one hand, one
experience, one display, one gesture of great perfection. There is nothing
outside of you that you can want, or desire, or seek, or grasp – your soul
expands to the corners of the universe and embraces all with infinite delight.
You are utterly Full, utterly Saturated, so full and saturated that the
boundaries to the Kosmos completely explode and leave you without date or duration,
time or location, awash in an ocean of infinite care. You are released into the
All, as the All – you are the self-seen radiant Kosmos, you are the universe of
One Taste, and the taste is utterly infinite. So what is the sound of that one
hand clapping? What is the taste of that One Taste? When there is nothing
outside of you that can hit you, hurt you, push you, pull you – what is the
sound of that one hand clapping? See the sunlight on the mountains? Feel the
cool breeze? What is not utterly obvious? Who is not already enlightened? As a
Zen Master put it, "When I heard the sound of the bell ringing, there was
no I, and no bell, just the ringing." There is no twiceness, no twoness,
in immediate experience! No inside and no outside, no subject and no object–just
immediate awareness itself, the sound of one hand clapping. So you are not in
here, on this side of a transparent window, looking at the Kosmos out there.
The transparent window has shattered, your bodymind drops, you are free of that
confinement forever, you are no longer 'behind your face' looking at the Kosmos
– you simply are the Kosmos. You are all that. Which is precisely why you can
swallow the Kosmos and span the centuries, and nothing moves at all. The sound
of this one hand clapping is the sound the Big Bang made. It is the sound of
supernovas exploding in space. It is the sound of the robin singing. It is the
sound of the waterfall on a crystal-clear day. It is the sound of the entire
manifest universe – and you are that sound. Which is why your Original Face is
not in here. It is the sheerest Emptiness or transparency of this shimmering
display. If the Kosmos is arising, you are that. If nothing arises, you are
that. In either case, you are that. In either case, you are not in here. The window
has shattered. The gap between subject and object is gone. There is no
twiceness, no twoness, to be found anywhere – the world is never given to you
twice, but always only once – and you are that. You are that One Taste. This
state is not something you can bring about. This nondual state, this state of
One Taste, is the very nature of every experience before you slice it up. This
One Taste is not some experience you bring about through effort; rather it is
the actual condition of all experience before you do anything to it. This
uncontrived state is prior to effort, prior to grasping, prior to avoiding. It
is the real world before you do anything to it, including the effort to 'see it
nondually.' So you don't have to do something special to awareness or to
experience in order to make it nondual. It starts out nondual, its very nature
is nondual – prior to any grasping, any effort, any contrivance. If effort
arises, fine; if effort doesn't arise, fine; in either case there is only the
immediacy of One Taste, prior to effort and non-effort alike. So this is
definitely not a state that is hard to get into, but rather one that is
impossible to avoid. It has always been so. There has never been a moment when
you did not experience One Taste – it is the only reality in all of reality. In
a million billion years, there has never been a single second that you weren't
aware of this Taste; there has never been a single second where it wasn't
directly in your Original Face like a blast of arctic air. Of course, we have
often lied to ourselves about this, we have often been untruthful about this,
the universe of One Taste, the primordial sound of one hand clapping, our own
Original Face. And the nondual traditions aim, not to bring about this state,
because that is impossible, but simply to point it out to you so that you can
no longer ignore it, no longer lie to yourself about who you really are.
(Source: A Brief History of Everything. More to be found in The Simple Feeling
of Being, a collection of Ken Wilber’s inspirational, mystical and
instructional passages drawn from his publications, based on his experiences.)<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段落</span> 1<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在这段节录自《灵性之眼（</span>The
Eye of Spirit<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）》的文字中，肯</span>·<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯带来他最具力量（并且最优美）的一篇心灵写作。这是这篇文字首次在网络上完整呈现，我们欢迎你随意分享这篇章的内容。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">以下所呈现的是各种</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">点悟（</span>pointing out<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的指导（</span>instructions<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），即对心之本质或内在灵性（</span>Intrinsic
Spirit<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）的直接指引。传统上，这包含大量有意的重复。如果你以普通阅读的方式读下去，你也许会觉得那些重复之处乏味甚至厌烦。如果你希望这一部分内容对你起作用，最好慢慢读，缓慢从容，让这些文字以及它们的重复在你心中沉淀。你还可以将其中的段落作为修行材料，每次禅修只取一两段，甚至只取一两句话来观修。</span>”——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">肯</span>·<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">In this excerpt from The Eye of Spirit, Ken Wilber offers
one of the most powerful (and beautiful) pieces of spiritual writing he has
ever produced. This is the very first time these words have been reproduced on
the web, and we invite you to share this chapter however you like.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“What follows are various ‘pointing out’ instructions,
direct pointers to mind’s essential nature or intrinsic Spirit. Traditionally
this involves a great deal of intentional repetition. If you read this material
in the normal manner, you might find the repetitions tedious and perhaps
irritating. If you would like the rest of this particular section to work for
you, please read it in a slow and leisurely manner, letting the words and the
repetitions sink in. You can also use these sections as material for meditation,
using no more than one or two paragraphs—or even one or two sentences—for each
session.” –Ken Wilber<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段落</span> 2<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>“</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我们应当把灵性（</span>Spirit</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）安放何处？我们到底能将什么视为神圣？我们究竟在哪里找到</span>‘</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">存在之基</span>’</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">？究竟什么才是终极的神圣（</span>the Sacred</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）？</span>”</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">大探寻（</span>The
Great Search</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不二传统给出的洞见毫不妥协：只有灵性（</span>Spirit<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），只有上帝，只有空寂（</span>Emptiness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）处处显现。所有美善和所有丑恶，最正直与最堕落，善人和卑鄙者</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">从本质上看，无一不是灵性（</span>Spirit<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）的彻底完美显现。世间万物无不是神，无不是女神（</span>the Goddess<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），无不是灵性，任何一粒沙尘也无所谓多一点或少一点的神性。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这一见解会颠覆那深藏于分离自我（</span>the
separate-self sense<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）心中的</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">大探寻</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。分离自我，本质上就是一种寻觅的张力。当你此刻感受自己，你大抵会察觉到内在有一丝细微的紧张或收缩</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一种抓取、渴望、期待、想要、排斥、抗拒的感觉，是一个带着努力的</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">寻找</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">感。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">其最极端的形态，是对灵性的</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">大探寻</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。我们想从</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无明</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">或</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">罪</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">或</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">二元对立</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的现状抵达某个</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">开悟或更灵性的境地</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，我们想从</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">没有灵性之处</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">到</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">有灵性之处</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但事实上，没有灵性不在之处。宇宙中的每一个点，都是灵性本身，都是上帝或女神本身。任何形式的寻觅、移动、抵达，在这种真理面前都形同枉然。</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">大探寻</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">只会强化那个假设：好像有个地方没有灵性，而我需要从空缺之处走向圆满之所。但灵性从未缺席，也不曾更少。当下唯一的事实就是灵性。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">追寻灵性，恰恰是阻挡你当下认出灵性的最后一道障碍。而原因很简单：大探寻基于这样一个假设：</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">此刻我没有上帝</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。大探寻越强烈，就越否定上帝当下的显现，也就越阻挡你去了悟灵性无处不在、全然敞现的事实。大探寻假装自己在热爱上帝，实际上却在将上帝推远</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">它总是指望</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明天</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">才找到上帝，把当下与上帝擦肩而过。大探寻关注未来如此热切，以至于从未看过当下上帝正对着你微笑。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">大探寻就是那潜藏在分离自我中心的缺爱与收缩</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">它在</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">承诺</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你终有一天会找到救赎，却让你依旧保留一个</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">自己</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。大探寻越强，越能让你保持对上帝的否定，也越能让你持续感受那份</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">努力寻找的我</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。大探寻</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">真正地成为了当下之神的敌人。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那么我们是不是该简单地停止这个大探寻？绝对是，如果做得到。然而试图停止大探寻，本身又是大探寻的延伸。因为那第一个</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">停止</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的动作恰恰默认了</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">分离我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">依然在努力去停下那个搜索。这其实就是同一个自我收缩在运作</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">自我收缩与大探寻本是同一个东西。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">既然不能指望通过大探寻的过程在将来获得灵性，那就只剩下一种可能：灵性此刻就已全然、彻底地呈现</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">并且你也此刻就已全然、彻底地认出了它。如果你说</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">灵性当下存在，可是我还没有觉知到</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，这不又在召唤大探寻吗？这又要求我在某个未来时刻去得到对灵性的觉知，而这样的期望必然会错过此刻，错过现在。如果继续搜索，就继续错过，不断错过。不行，这种觉知本身也只能当下圆满，不可能等待</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">未来</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">因此，一定有关于我们当下觉知的某些奥秘，使我们此刻就能认出完整真理。不论你正处于何种状态，你都已圆满具足了明心见性的全部条件。你当下正好面对答案</span>——100%<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的灵性就在你的感知当中。不是</span>20%<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，不是</span>50%<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，也不是</span>99%<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，而是真真正正</span>100%<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">全然齐备。诀窍（如果可以这么说）就在于认出当下即是，而不是去营造一个</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明天才出现的灵性</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这份对</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">已然全然存在</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的灵性的认出，就是不二传统（</span>the great Nondual
traditions<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）的修持核心。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal">In this excerpt from The Eye of Spirit, Ken Wilber offers
one of the most powerful (and beautiful) pieces of spiritual writing he has
ever produced. This is the very first time these words have been reproduced on
the web, and we invite you to share this chapter however you like.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“What follows are various ‘pointing out’ instructions,
direct pointers to mind’s essential nature or intrinsic Spirit. Traditionally
this involves a great deal of intentional repetition. If you read this material
in the normal manner, you might find the repetitions tedious and perhaps
irritating. If you would like the rest of this particular section to work for
you, please read it in a slow and leisurely manner, letting the words and the
repetitions sink in. You can also use these sections as material for
meditation, using no more than one or two paragraphs—or even one or two
sentences—for each session.” –Ken Wilber<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Where are we to locate Spirit? What are we actually allowed
to acknowledge as Sacred? Where exactly is the Ground of Being? Where is this
ultimate Divine?<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">The Great Search<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">The Realization of the Nondual traditions is uncompromising:
there is only Spirit, there is only God, there is only Emptiness in all its
radiant wonder. All the good and all the evil, the very best and the very
worst, the upright and the degenerate-each and all are radically perfect
manifestations of Spirit precisely as they are. There is nothing but God,
nothing but the Goddess, nothing but Spirit in all directions, and not a grain
of sand, not a speck of dust, is more or less Spirit than any other.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">This realization undoes the Great Search that is the heart
of the separate-self sense. The separate-self is, at bottom, simply a sensation
of seeking. When you feel yourself right now, you will basically feel a tiny
interior tension or contraction—a sensation of grasping, desiring, wishing,
wanting, avoiding, resisting-it is a sensation of effort, a sensation of
seeking.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">In its highest form, this sensation of seeking takes on the
form of the Great Search for Spirit. We wish to get from our unenlightened
state (of sin or delusion or duality) to an enlightened or more spiritual
state. We wish to get from where Spirit is not, to where Spirit is.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">But there is no place where Spirit is not. Every single
location in the entire Kosmos is equally and fully Spirit. Seeking of any sort,
movement of any sort, attainment of any sort: all profoundly useless. The Great
Search simply reinforces the mistaken assumption that there is some’ place that
Spirit is not, and that I need to get from a space that is lacking to a space
that is full. But there is no space lacking, and there is no space more full.
There is only Spirit.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">The Great Search for Spirit is simply that impulse, the
final impulse, which prevents the present realization of Spirit, and it does so
for a simple reason: the Great Search presumes the loss of God. The Great
Search reinforces the mistaken belief that God is not present, and thus totally
obscures the ‘reality of God’s ever-present Presence. The Great Search, which
pretends to love God, is in fact the very mechanism of pushing God away; the
mechanism of promising to find tomorrow that which exists only in the timeless
now; the mechanism of watching the future so fervently that the present always
passes it by—very quickly and God’s smiling face with it.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">The Great Search is the loveless contraction hidden in the
heart of the separate-self sense, a contraction that drives the intense
yearning for a tomorrow in which salvation will finally arrive, but during
which time, thank God, I can continue to be myself. The greater the Great
Search, the more I can deny God. The greater the Great Search, the more I can
feel my own sensation of seeking, which defines the contours of my self. The
Great Search is the great enemy of what is.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Should we then simply cease the Great Search? Definitely, if
we could. But the effort to stop the Great Search is itself more of the Great
Search. The very first step presumes and reinforces the seeking sensation.
There is actually nothing the self-contraction can do to stop the Great Search,
because the self-contraction and the Great Search are two names for the same
thing.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">If Spirit cannot be found as a future product of the Great
Search, then there is only one alternative: Spirit must be fully, totally,
completely present right now—AND you must be fully, totally, completely aware
of it right now. It will not do to say that Spirit is present but I don’t
realize it. That would require the Great Search; that would demand that I seek
a tomorrow in which I could realize that Spirit is fully present, but such
seeking misses the present in the very first step. To keep seeking would be to
keep missing. No, the realization itself, the awareness itself: this, too, must
somehow be fully and completely present right now. If it is not, then all we
have left is the Great Search, doomed to presume that which it wishes to
overcome.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">There must be something about our present awareness that
contains the entire truth. Somehow, no matter what your state, you are immersed
fully in everything you need for perfect enlightenment. You are somehow looking
right at the answer. One hundred percent of Spirit is in your perception right
now. Not 20 percent, not 50 percent, not 99 percent, but literally 100 percent
of Spirit is in your awareness right now—and the trick, as it were, is to
recognize this ever-present state of affairs, and not to engineer a future
state in which Spirit will announce itself.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">And this simple recognition of an already present Spirit is
the task, as it were, of the great Nondual traditions.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段落</span> 3<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">走向宇宙（</span>To
Meet the Kosmos</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">很多人对任何形式的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">神秘主义（</span>mysticism<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">或</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">超验主义（</span>transcendentalism<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">都抱有严厉的反对意见，因为他们认为这类主张好像否定这个世界、仇恨这片大地、鄙弃身体和感官以及其生命活力等等。虽然在某些割裂（或仅仅强调</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">上升</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）的修行观中也许确实存在这样的问题，但这绝不是那些伟大不二（</span>Nondual<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）神秘传统的核心洞见。从柏洛提努斯（</span>Plotinus<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）与艾克哈特（</span>Meister Eckhart<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）在西方，到龙树（</span>Nagarjuna<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）和益西措嘉（</span>Lady Tsogyal<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）在东方，这些真正的圣者无一不共同坚持：绝对实相和相对世界并不是两个互相隔离的范畴，而是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不二（</span>nondual<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的。就好像镜子与其中的映像、或海洋与海面的浪花，它们虽有二相，却并非真的分离。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也就是说，</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">灵性世界</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">和</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">现象世界</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在深层上是相通的。</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">此岸</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">与</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">彼岸</span>”——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一个无显的灵性层面与一个处处充满显形事物的层面</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">其实是完全不二的，这不二并非仅仅是概念，而是可以通过特定的禅修状态直接并立即证得。换言之，这是一种通过</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">观照之眼（</span>the eye of contemplation<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">得以亲见的境界。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一旦这种不二之见（</span>nondual
realization<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）稳定下来，它就不仅仅在你冥想时显现，而会变得极其自然、极其平常。你所感知到的每一个事物，全都闪耀着灵性本身，所以你与某样东西之间，不存在一个彼此分离的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我在这儿，它在那儿</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的界限。正如古人所说：听到鸟鸣之时，就是当下；见到花开之时，就是此处，一切都不离</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本然如是（</span>Suchness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。这当下即是你从</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">迷失于现实</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">中苏醒的终极解脱。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">然而，为什么我们平时并没有这样的认知？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">所有伟大的不二智慧传统都给出过大同小异的答案：我们并未看到灵性（</span>Spirit<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）随时随处现前，是因为我们的觉知被某种</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">回避或抗拒</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">蒙蔽了。我们本可</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">毫不选择</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">地敞开当下，但却总想要逃离它，或跑向它，或改变它、改造它、厌恶它、爱上它，或以某种方式奋力调动自己，以远离或者攫取此刻。我们不愿安住在纯粹的当下临在（</span>presence<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）之中，而</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">伟大探寻</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就是主要的游戏机制。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在不二禅修或内观里，那分离自我的紧张与执取会深深地放松，于是自我在广袤的虚空中松弛散开。届时你会发现，你并不是真的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在这里</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">看着一个</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在那边</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的世界，主客的二分突然坍塌成纯然的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">与</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">自发光明</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这种见地可以以许多方式出现。举个简单的例子：你可能正望着一座山，已经放松到不再用心去构造任何观念，然后突然之间，整座山都充满你的视界，而那分离的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的感觉彻底消失得无影无踪。你依然清醒无比，感官也一如既往清晰，只是你找不到任何</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">自己</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">了</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">没有</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">里面</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那个注视山景的自我，只有山，只有自然，只有一切当下现前的情境。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">从前我们也许会给这样的状态套用许多名字，比如</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">与自然合一的经验（</span>nature unity<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">或</span>“sahaj<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">三昧（</span>sahaj
samadhi<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。但这其实是最朴素、最自然的状态。更重要的是，一旦你瞥见了这个状态（正如佛教所说的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一味</span>”One Taste<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），你会发现自己并没有进入某种崭新的境界，而是认识到这个状态自始至终都在，当下历来如此。就像禅宗说的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无门之门</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：当你还没觉悟时，似乎要进入一道门；可当你觉悟之后，转过头却发现根本没有什么门。你从来没有离开过这个状态，所以也并无所谓</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">进入</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。过去、现在、未来的一切佛，都不会</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">进入</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这个状态，因为谁都不曾离开过它。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">To Meet the Kosmos<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Many people have stern objections to “mysticism” or
“transcendentalism” of any sort, because they think it somehow denies this
world, or hates this earth, or despises the body and the senses and its vital
life, and so on. While that may be true of certain dissociated (or merely
Ascending) approaches, it is certainly not the core understanding of the great
Nondual mystics, from Plotinus and Eckhart in the West to Nagarjuna and Lady
Tsogyal in the East.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Rather, these sages universally maintain that absolute
reality and the relative world are “not-two” (which is the meaning of
“nondual”), much as a mirror and its reflections are not separate, or an ocean
is one with its many waves. So the “other world” of Spirit and “this world” of
separate phenomena are deeply and profoundly “not-two,” and this nonduality is
a direct and immediate realization which occurs in certain meditative states—in
other words, seen with the eye of contemplation—although it then becomes a very
simple, very ordinary perception, whether you are meditating or not. Every
single thing you perceive is the radiance of Spirit itself, so much so that
Spirit is not seen apart from that thing: the robin sings, and just that is it,
nothing else. This becomes your constant realization, through all changes of
state, very naturally, just so. And this releases you from the basic insanity
of hiding from the Real.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">But why is it, then, that we ordinarily don’t have that
perception?<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">All the great Nondual wisdom traditions have given a fairly
similar answer to that question. We don’t see that Spirit is fully and
completely present right here, right now, because our awareness is clouded with
some form of avoidance. We do not want to be choicelessly aware of the present;
rather, we want to run away from it, or run after it, or we want to change it,
alter it; hate it, love it, loathe it, or in some way agitate to get ourselves
into, or out of, it. We will do anything except come to rest in the pure
Presence of the present. We will not rest with pure Presence; we want to be
elsewhere, quickly. The Great Search is the game, in its endless forms.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">In nondual meditation or contemplation, the agitation of the
separate-self sense profoundly relaxes, and the self uncoils in the vast
expanse of all space. At that point, it becomes obvious that you are not “in
here” looking at the world “out there,” because that duality has simply
collapsed into pure Presence and spontaneous luminosity.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">This realization may take many forms. A simple one is
something like this: You might be looking at a mountain, and you have relaxed
into the effortlessness of your own present awareness, and then suddenly the
mountain is all, you are nothing. Your separate-self sense is suddenly and
totally gone, and there is simply everything that is arising moment to moment.
You are perfectly aware, perfectly conscious, everything seems completely
normal, except you are nowhere to be found. You are not on this side of your
face looking at the mountain out there; you simply are the mountain, you are
the sky, you are the clouds, you are everything that is arising moment to
moment, very simply, very clearly, just so.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">We know all the fancy names for this state, from unity
consciousness to sahaj samadhi. But it really is the simplest and most obvious
state you will ever realize. Moreover, once you glimpse that state—what the
Buddhists call One Taste (because you and the entire universe are one taste or
one experience)—it becomes obvious that you are not entering this state, but
rather, it is a state that, in some profound and mysterious way, has been your
primordial condition from time immemorial. You have, in fact, never left this
state for a second.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">This is why Zen calls it the Gateless Gate: on this side of
that realization, it looks like you have to do something to enter that state—it
looks like you need to pass through a gate. But when you do so, and you turn
around and look back, there is no gate whatsoever, and never has been. You have
never left this state in the first place, so obviously you can’t enter it. The
gateless gate! “Every form is Emptiness just as it is,” means that all things,
including you and me, are always already on the other side of the gateless
gate.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">But if that is so, then why even do spiritual practice?
Isn’t that just another form of the Great Search? Yes, actually, spiritual
practice is a form of the Great Search, and as such, it is destined to fail.
But that is exactly the point. You and I are already convinced that there are
things that we need to do in order to realize Spirit. We feel that there are
places that Spirit is not (namely, in me), and we are going to correct this
state of affairs. Thus, we are already committed to the Great Search, and so
nondual meditation makes use of that fact and engages us in the Great Search in
a particular and somewhat sneaky fashion (which Zen calls “selling water by the
river”).<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">William Blake said that “a fool who persists in his folly
will become wise.” So nondual meditation simply speeds up the folly. If you
really think you lack Spirit, then try this folly: try to become Spirit, try to
discover Spirit, try to contact Spirit, try to reach Spirit: meditate and
meditate and meditate in order to get Spirit!<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">But of course, you see, you cannot really do this. You
cannot reach Spirit any more than you can reach your feet. You always already
are Spirit, you are not going to reach it in any sort of temporal thrashing
around. But if this is not obvious, then try it. Nondual meditation is a
serious effort to do the impossible, until you become utterly exhausted of the
Great Search, sit down completely worn out, and notice your feet.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">It’s not that these nondual traditions deny higher states;
they don’t. They have many, many practices that help individuals reach specific
states of postformal consciousness. These include states of transcendental
bliss, love, and compassion; of heightened cognition and extrasensory
perception; of Deity consciousness and contemplative prayer. But they maintain
that those altered states—which have a beginning and an end in time—ultimately
have nothing to do with the timeless. The real aim is the stateless, not a
perpetual fascination with changes of state. And that stateless condition is
the true nature of this and every conceivable state of consciousness, so any
state you have will do just fine. Change of state is not the ultimate point;
recognizing the Changeless is the point, recognizing primordial Emptiness is
the point, recognizing unqualifiable Godhead is the point, recognizing pure
Spirit is the point, and if you are breathing and vaguely awake, that state of
consciousness will do just fine.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段落</span> 4<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无时不在的觉知（</span>Ever-Present
Awareness</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">对</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不二</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">传统而言，</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一味（</span>One
Taste<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">并非要</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">创造</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">某个新的境地，而是认出它自始自终就存在。对这一点的认识，可简要描述如下：</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（下面是若干段</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">点悟（</span>pointing out<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">指导，直接指向心之本质或内在灵性〔</span>intrinsic Spirit<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">〕。传统上会使用大量有意的重复。如果你以普通的方式阅读，也许会觉得这些重复有些枯燥或惹人烦躁。若你想让以下内容真正对自己产生作用，可以用慢节奏来读，让这些句子</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">以及它们的重复</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">逐渐在你心里沉淀。你也可以把这些文字当作禅修素材，在每次修行中只拿出一两段，甚至一两句来参究。）</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我们从这样一个认识开始：纯粹的自我或超个人的见证者（</span>the
transpersonal Witness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），其实是一种</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">时时刻刻都在</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的觉知（</span>ever-present awareness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），甚至当我们怀疑它的存在时，它也仍然在。比如，现在你能感知到这房间、看到窗外、天色、云朵</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你可以退一步，看到自己对这些所观之物的觉察，这是一种自然的、自发的见证或观察。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">只要让自己轻松地感知此刻正在发生的一切：天空、云朵、念头在脑中飘过。只要你观察，你就会自然而然地觉知它们。就是这样，一种纯粹、无需费力、自发的见证就在那里。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在这简单的见证觉知中，你或许会注意到：我能看见我的身体，但我并不等同于我的身体；我能觉知我的思想，但我并不等同于我的思想；我也能觉知此时此刻的自我感，但我也不等同于那个自我感。我似乎比这一切</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">身体、心智、乃至</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">此时的自我印象</span>”——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">都更加本源。相对于念头、感官、感受来说，我是见证者。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这真是让人惊奇。我能够</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">看见</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我的念头，所以我并不是那些念头；我能觉知到身体的感觉，所以我并不是那些感觉；我能觉知到我的情绪，所以我不等同于这些情绪</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">相反，我似乎是见证者！</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但是，这个见证者到底是什么？究竟是什么东西在见证天空里飘动的云朵、在见证心中飘过的念头？究竟是谁，或者什么，在此刻见证这所有的景象？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不二传统主张：那个纯粹的见证觉知，本身就是灵性（</span>Spirit<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）、是你与生俱来的佛性（</span>Buddha-nature<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），或者说就是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">上帝（</span>God<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的本质显现。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">因此，就这些传统而言，与灵性或</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">上帝</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">接触并不难，它就是此时你的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">见证觉知</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，它在这一瞬间就完全发挥着作用：你看到了天空，你听到了鸟鸣，你感到了微风</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这些都已在当下被觉知，你不用去额外</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">创造</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一个见证者；它不离当下。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一部大圆满或大手印（</span>Dzogchen
/ Mahamudra<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）的经典文字里，有这样一段：</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">有时，一些修行者会说，</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我认识本心（</span>mind’s true nature<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）好难啊！</span>’——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在大圆满里，</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本心的自性</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就是那本初清净（</span>primordial Purity<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）或根本空性，也就是不二的灵性。有人会哭得稀里哗啦，悲观地说</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我实在无法认出心性</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。但这是毫无理由的悲伤，这种认出并不困难。当下让你生起</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">似乎无法认出心性</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的那颗心，它本身就是心性的直接体现！</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">至于为何这无处不在的见证觉知难以触及：</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">有些修行者没有让心自然地安住于其本性（即那单纯的当下觉知），正如本应如此。相反，他们让心去向外观察或向内搜寻。你既不能通过向外观察，也不能通过向内搜寻看见或发现（灵性）。根本没有必要向外观察或向内搜寻。直接投入到那正在向外观察或向内搜寻的心中，而那正是它。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我们意识到这间房间；仅此而已，正是这种觉知本身就是无处不在的灵。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我们意识到天空中飘过的云；仅此而已，正是这种觉知本身就是无处不在的灵。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我们意识到心中浮现的念头；仅此而已，正是这种觉知本身就是无处不在的灵。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我们意识到痛苦、动荡、恐惧与惊惧；仅此而已。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">换句话说，终极实相并不是被看见的某种存在，而正是那无处不在的观察者。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那些被看见的事物来来去去，有喜有悲，有乐有苦</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">而观察者既不属于这些，也不会随之消逝。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">见证者不动摇，不踌躇，也不会融入那流逝的时流。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">见证者不是一个客体，不是某个被看见的事物，而是万物无处不在的观察者；是那简单的见证，正是精神中的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，是风暴的中心，是那通透之境即神，是那澄净之地即纯空。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无论何时，你都能接触到这种见证的觉知。在每个当下，总会自发地觉察到眼前的一切</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">而这种简单、自发、毫不费力的觉知正是无处不在的精神本质。即便你以为自己未曾察觉，正是这种觉知构成了一切。因而，终极的意识状态</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">内在的精神本质</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">既非难以达到，而是无法避免。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal">Ever-Present Awareness<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">This primordial recognition of One Taste—not the creation
but the recognition of the fact that you and the Kosmos are One Spirit, One
Taste, One Gesture—is the great gift of the Nondual traditions. And in
simplified form, this recognition goes like this:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(What follows are various “pointing out” instructions,
direct pointers to mind’s essential nature or intrinsic Spirit. Traditionally
this involves a great deal of intentional repetition. If you read this material
in the normal manner, you might find the repetitions tedious and perhaps
irritating. If you would like the rest of this particular section to work for
you, please read it in a slow and leisurely manner, letting the words and the
repetitions sink in. You can also use these sections as material for meditation,
using no more than one or two paragraphs—or even one or two sentences—for each
session.)<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">We begin with the realization that the pure Self or
transpersonal Witness is an ever-present consciousness, even when we doubt its
existence. You are right now aware of, say, this book, the room, a window, the
sky, the clouds…. You can sit back and simply notice that you are aware of all
those objects floating by. Clouds float through the sky, thoughts float through
the mind, and when you notice them, you are effortlessly aware of them. There
is a simple, effortless, spontaneous witnessing of whatever happens to be
present.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">In that simple witnessing awareness, you might notice: I am
aware of my body, and therefore I am not my body. I am aware of my mind, and
therefore I am not my mind. I am aware of my self, and therefore I am not that
self. Rather, I seem somehow to be the Witness of my body, my mind, my self.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">This is truly fascinating. I can see my thoughts, so I am
not those thoughts. I am aware of bodily sensations, so I am not those
sensations. I am aware of my emotions, so I am not merely those emotions. I am
somehow the Witness of all of that!<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">But what is this Witness itself? Who or What is it that
witnesses all of these objects, that watches the clouds float by, and thoughts
float by, and objects float by? Who or What is this true Seer, this pure
Witness, which is at the very core of what I am?<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">That simple witnessing awareness, the traditions maintain,
is Spirit itself, is the enlightened mind itself, is Buddha-nature itself, is
God itself, in its entirety.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thus, according to the traditions, getting in touch with
Spirit or God or the enlightened mind is not something difficult to achieve. It
is your own simple witnessing awareness in exactly this moment. If you see this
page, you already have that awareness–all of it—right now.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">A very famous text from Dzogchen or Maha-Ati Buddhism (one
of the very greatest of the Nondual traditions) puts it like this: “At times it
happens that some meditators say that it is difficult to recognize the nature
of the mind”—in Dzogchen, “the nature of the mind” means primordial Purity or
radical Emptiness—it means nondual Spirit by whatever name. The point is that
this “nature of the mind” is ever-present witnessing awareness, and some
meditators, the text says, find this hard to believe. They imagine it is
difficult or even impossible to recognize this ever-present awareness, and that
they have to work very hard and meditate very long in order to attain this
enlightened mind—whereas it is simply their own ever-present witnessing
awareness, fully functioning right now.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">The text continues: “Some male or female practitioners
believe it to be impossible to recognize the nature of mind. They become
depressed with tears streaming down their cheeks. There is no reason at all to
become sad. It is not at all impossible to recognize. Rest directly in that
which thinks that it is impossible to recognize the nature of the mind, and
that is exactly it.”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">As for this ever-present witnessing awareness being hard to
contact: “There are some meditators who don’t let their mind rest in itself
[simple present awareness], as they should. Instead they let it watch outwardly
or search inwardly. You will neither see nor find [Spirit] by watching
outwardly or searching inwardly. There is no reason whatsoever to watch
outwardly or search inwardly. Let go directly into this mind that is watching
outwardly or searching inwardly, and that is exactly it.”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">We are aware of this room; just that is it, just that
awareness is ever-present Spirit. We are aware of the clouds floating by in the
sky; just that is it, just that awareness is ever-present Spirit. We are aware
of thoughts floating by in the mind; just that is it, just that awareness is
ever-present Spirit. We are aware of pain, turmoil, terror, fear; just that is
it.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">In other words, the ultimate reality is not something seen,
but rather the ever-present Seer. Things that are seen come and go, are happy
or sad, pleasant or painful—but the Seer is none of those things, and it does
not come and go. The Witness does not waver, does not wobble, does not enter
that stream of time. The Witness is not an object, not a thing seen, but the
ever-present Seer of all things, the simple Witness that is the I of Spirit,
the center of the cyclone, the opening that is God, the clearing that is pure
Emptiness.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">There is never a time that you do not have access to this
Witnessing awareness. At every single moment, there is a spontaneous awareness
of whatever happens to be present—and that simple, spontaneous, effortless
awareness is ever-present Spirit itself. Even if you think you don’t see it,
that very awareness is it. And thus, the ultimate state of
consciousness—intrinsic Spirit itself—is not hard to reach but impossible to
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]
<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段落</span> 1<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">而这正是不二诸学派最伟大且被珍藏的秘密。呈现出什么对象或内容并不重要；无论生起什么都可以。人们有时难以理解灵性（</span>Spirit<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），因为他们试图将其视为某种被觉知的客体或被理解的对象。然而，终极实相并不是任何被看见的东西，而是那个看见者（</span>the
Seer<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。灵性不是一个客体；它是根本的、无处不在的主体，因此它不可能像一块石头、一幅图像、一个概念、一道光、一种感觉、一种洞见、一片光明的云彩、一段强烈的景象或一种巨大欢喜的感受那样，突然从你面前跳出来。那些都很好，但它们都是客体，而灵性并非如此。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">因此，当你安住于</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">见证者（</span>the Witness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">时，你不会见到任何特定的东西。真正的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">看见者</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是无法被看见的，所以你只需从对任何及所有客体的认同中脱离出来：</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我觉知到身体中的感官作用；那些是客体，我并不是它们。我觉知到心中的念头；那些是客体，我并不是它们。我觉知到此刻的自我感，但那也只是另一个客体，我并不是那个。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">景象在大自然中飘过，念头在心中飘过，感受在身体中飘过，而我并不是这些。我不是一个客体。我是所有那些客体的纯粹见证者。我就是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本身即觉知（</span>Consciousness as such<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“And just that is the great and guarded secret of the
Nondual schools. It does not matter what objects or contents are present;
whatever arises is fine. People sometimes have a hard time understanding Spirit
because they try to see it as an object of awareness or an object of
comprehension. But the ultimate reality is not anything seen, it is the Seer.
Spirit is not an object; it is radical, ever-present Subject, and thus it is
not something that is going to jump out in front of you like a rock, an image,
an idea, a light, a feeling, an insight, a luminous cloud, an intense vision,
or a sensation of great bliss. Those are all nice, but they are all objects,
which is what Spirit is not. Thus, as you rest in the Witness, you won’t see
anything in particular. The true Seer is nothing that can be seen, so you
simply begin by disidentifying with any and all objects: I am aware of
sensations in my body; those are objects, I am not those. I am aware of
thoughts in my mind; those are objects, I am not those. I am aware of my self
in this moment, but that is just another object, and I am not that. Sights
float by in nature, thoughts float by in the mind, feelings float by in the
body, and I am none of those. I am not an object. I am the pure Witness of all
those objects. I am Consciousness as such.”<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段落</span> 2<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">因此，当你安住在纯粹的见证者中时，你不会见到任何特别之处</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无论看见什么都可以。更确切地说，当你安住于那个根本主体或</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">见证者</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">中时，当你停止把自己认同于那些客体，你就会开始注意到一种极其广阔的自由感。这种自由并不是你会看见的某种东西；而是你</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">所是</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。当你是念头的见证者时，你就不受念头束缚；当你是感受的见证者时，你就不被感受束缚。取代那种紧缩的自我感的，是广阔无边的敞开与解脱。作为一个客体，你是被束缚的；而作为见证者，你是自由的。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我们不会看见这种自由，我们会安住于这种自由中</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那就像一个无垠的、无限轻松的海洋。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“And so, as you rest in the pure Witness, you won’t see
anything particular—whatever you see is fine. Rather, as you rest in the
radical subject or Witness, as you stop identifying with objects, you will
simply begin to notice a sense of vast Freedom. This Freedom is not something
you will see; it is something you are. When you are the Witness of thoughts,
you are not bound by thoughts. When you are the Witness of feelings, you are
not bound by feelings. In place of your contracted self there is simply a vast
sense of Openness and Release. As an object, you are bound; as the Witness, you
are Free. We will not see this Freedom, we will rest in it. A vast ocean of
infinite ease.”<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段落</span> 3<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">因此，我们安住于这个纯粹而简单的见证者（</span>the
true Seer<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）之状态中，它是广大无边的空寂，也是纯粹的自由。我们允许那些被看见的事物随它们的方式自行生起。灵性（</span>Spirit<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）在那个自由而空的见证者中，而不在时间世界里不断涌现、受局限而易逝的客体之中。因此，我们安住于这广大无垠的空寂与自由之中，一切事物都在其中生起。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我们并不能</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">到达</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">或</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">接触</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这种纯粹的见证觉知。这并不是可能的，因为我们从未真正失去它。我们只需注意到当下正在发生的事情，就能轻松地安住于这种简单、清晰、无处不在的觉知之中。我们已经看见天空，我们已经听到鸟儿在歌唱，我们已经感受到凉爽的微风。这个简单的见证早已存在、早已运作、早已如是。这就是为什么我们无需</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">接触</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">或</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">带来</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这个见证者，而只需注意到它自始自终都在，以简单而自发的方式，觉知着当下正在发生的一切。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“And so we rest in this state of the pure and simple
Witness, the true Seer, which is vast Emptiness and pure Freedom, and we allow
whatever is seen to arise as it wishes. Spirit is in the Free and Empty Seer,
not in the limited, bound, mortal, and finite objects that parade by in the
world of time. And so we rest in this vast Emptiness and Freedom, in which all
things arise. We do not reach or contact this pure Witnessing awareness. It is
not possible to contact that which we have never lost. Rather, we rest in this
easy, clear, ever-present awareness by simply noticing what is already
happening. We already see the sky. We already hear the birds singing. We
already feel the cool breeze. The simple Witness is already present, already
functioning, already the case. That is why we do not contact or bring this
Witness into being, but simply notice that it is always already present, as the
simple and spontaneous awareness of whatever is happening in this moment.”<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段落</span> 4<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我们也会注意到，这种简单、无所不在的见证者完全不需要任何努力。听到声音、看到景象、感受到凉风丝毫不费力，这一切都已经在发生，我们轻松地安住在那毫不费力的见证之中。我们既不追逐那些客体，也不逃避它们。正因为灵性（</span>Spirit<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无处不在的看见者</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，而不是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">作为被看见的受限之物</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，我们才能任由一切所见之物来去自由，恰如其分。正如庄子所言：</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">至人之用心为镜。它既不执取，也不拒绝；它接纳万物，却不留存。</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">镜子毫不费力地接收它的映像，就像你此刻毫不费力地看见天空，也如同见证者毫不费力地让所有客体生起。所有事物在这毫不费力的镜心中来来去去，那就是简单见证者的本质。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“We also notice that this simple, ever-present Witness is
completely effortless. It takes no effort whatsoever to hear sounds, to see
sights, to feel the cool breeze: it is already happening, and we easily rest in
that effortless witnessing. We do not follow those objects, nor avoid them.
Precisely because Spirit is the ever-present Seer, and not any limited thing
that is seen, we can allow all seen things to come and go exactly as they
please. “The perfect person employs the mind as a mirror,” says Chuang Tzu. “It
neither grasps nor rejects; it receives, but does not keep.” The mirror
effortlessly receives its reflections, just as you effortlessly see the sky
right now, and just as the Witness effortlessly allows all objects whatsoever
to arise. All things come and go in the effortless mirror-mind that is the
simple Witness.”<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段落</span> 5<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当我安住为那个纯粹而简单的见证者时，我注意到自己并没有被卷进时间世界里。见证者只存在于无时性的当下。然而，这个状态并非难以企及，而是根本无法规避。见证者只看见无时间性的当下，因为唯有这个当下一刻是真实存在的。当我想起过去，这些对过去的念头此时此刻就存在于当下；当我思考未来，这些对未来的念头也同样存在于当下。当下的单纯、无处不在的觉知中，过去与未来的念头都在这一刻生起。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">同样，当过去真的发生，它其实也发生在那时的</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">现在</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">；当未来真的发生时，它也必然处在它的</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当下</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。世上只有现在，也只有这永远当下的</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">现在</span>’——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那是我能够直接知晓的一切。因此，无时间性的当下并非难以接触，而是根本无法回避。当我安住于纯粹而简单的见证者之中，看着过去与未来在这简单、无所不在的觉知里飘过时，这一点就不言自明。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“When I rest as the pure and simple Witness, I notice that I
am not caught in the world of time. The Witness exists only in the timeless
present. Yet again, this is not a state that is difficult to achieve but
impossible to avoid. The Witness sees only the timeless present because only
the timeless present is actually real. When I think of the past, those past
thoughts exist right now, in this present. When I think of the future, those
future thoughts exist right now, in this present. Past and future thoughts both
arise right now, in simple ever-present awareness. And when the past actually
occurred, it occurred right now. When the future actually occurs, it will occur
right now. There is only right now, there is only this ever-present present:
that is all I ever directly know. Thus, the timeless present is not hard to
contact but impossible to avoid, and this becomes obvious when I rest as the
pure and simple Witness, and watch the past and future float by in simple
ever-present awareness.”<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段落</span> 6<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">因此，当我们安住于这个无所不在的见证者时，我们并不在时间之中。安住在那简单而见证性的觉知中，我注意到时间好像云朵一般从我面前，或者从我之中飘过。这正是我能觉知到时间的原因；在我那简单的当下临在（</span>Presentness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）里，以我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我（</span>I AMness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）的纯粹且简单之见证者的方式来见证整个宇宙（</span>Kosmos<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），我其实是无时间性的。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">因此，就在此时此刻，当我安住于这个简单、无所不在的见证者中，我正与灵性（</span>Spirit<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）面对面。我在今天、也在所有时刻与上帝同在（和</span>God<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">同在），就在这个简单、无处不在的见证状态中。艾克哈特说，</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">上帝比我自己离我还更近</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，因为上帝与我乃同一本体，都在这个无所不在的见证者里，而这个见证者本质就是本具的灵性（</span>intrinsic
Spirit<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）本身，也就是我的我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我状态（</span>the state of my I AMness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。我不是这个、我也不是那个；我安住于纯粹而开放的灵性（</span>Spirit<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）里。当我不再是一个客体时，我就是上帝。（整个宇宙中所有的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">都能真实地说出这一点。）</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我并没有进入这个无所不在的见证者之状态，也就是灵性本身。我无法进入这个状态，恰恰是因为它本来就无所不在。我无法</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">开始</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">见证；我只能注意到这个简单的见证已经在发生。这个状态从未在时间中开始，因为它确实无所不在。你既无法逃离，也无法奔向它；你一直就是它。这正是为什么诸佛从来没有</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">进入</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这个状态，而众生也从未</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">离开</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">过它。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“That is why when we rest as the ever-present Witness, we
are not in time. Resting in simple witnessing awareness, I notice that time
floats by in front of me, or through me, like clouds float through the sky. And
that is exactly why I can be aware of time; in my simple Presentness, in my I
AMness as pure and simple Witness of the Kosmos, I am timeless.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thus, as I right now rest in this simple, ever-present
Witness, I am face to face with Spirit. I am with God today, and always, in
this simple, ever-present, witnessing state. Eckhart said that “God is closer
to me than I am to myself,” because both God and I are one in the ever-present
Witness, which is the nature of intrinsic Spirit itself, which is exactly what
I am in the state of my I AMness. I am not this, I am not that; I rest as pure
open Spirit. When I am not an object, I am God. (And every I in the entire
Kosmos can say that truthfully.)<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I am not entering this state of the ever-present Witness,
which is Spirit itself. I cannot enter this state, precisely because it is
ever-present. I cannot start Witnessing; I can only notice that this simple
Witnessing is already occurring. This state never has a beginning in time
precisely because it is indeed ever-present. You can neither run from it nor
toward it; you are it, always. This is exactly why Buddhas have never entered
this state, and sentient beings have never left it.”<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段落</span> 7<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当我安住于那简单、清澈、无所不在的见证者时，我安住于那伟大的无生（</span>the
great Unborn<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），我安住于本具的灵性（</span>intrinsic
Spirit<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），我安住于本初清净（</span>primordial
Emptiness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），我安住于无限的自由之中。我无法被看见，也没有任何属性。我不是这个，我也不是那个。我不是一个客体。我既非光明亦非黑暗，不是大也不是小，不在这里也不在那里；我没有颜色、没有位置、没有空间与时间；我是一个彻底的空寂（</span>Emptiness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），也可称为无限自由（</span>infinite Freedom<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），无限向外延展。我就是那让整个有形世界此刻生起的开敞或空场，但我并不生于其中</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">而是那些现象生于我之中，于我这广大空寂与自由中。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那些被看见的事物也许愉悦或痛苦、开心或悲伤、喜悦或恐惧、健康或疾病</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但那看见它们的主体既不是快乐也不是悲伤，既不是喜悦也不是恐惧，既不是健康也不是疾病，而只是自由。作为纯粹而简单的见证者，我超脱了一切客体，也超脱了一切主体，超脱了一切时间与空间；超脱于出生，也超脱于死亡，也超脱它们之间的种种事物。我只是一种纯粹的自由。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当我安住于那个无时间性的见证者时，大探寻（</span>the
Great Search<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）便被瓦解了。大探寻是对无所不在之灵性的大敌，是在温柔的无限面前的一记残酷谎言。大探寻去追寻某个终极的体验、一种奇妙的异象、一座快乐的天堂、一种永远美好的时光、一次强大的洞见</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">去追寻上帝、追寻女神、追寻灵性</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">可灵性并非一个客体。灵性无法被攫取、无法被抵达、无法被寻觅、无法被看见：它就是那无所不在的看见者。若你去寻找</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">看见者</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，必然错失要点。若你永远去寻找，就会永远错过。你怎能去寻找当下正在觉知这页面的那个存在？你就是那个！你无法跑到外面去找那个正在</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">看</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的主体。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当我不把自己当作一个客体，我就是上帝。当我追寻一个客体时，我就不再是上帝，而这是无法用更多对客体的搜索来修正的灾难。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">相反，我只能安住于那见证者，这个见证者原本就不受客体、时间、痛苦、追寻所限制。当我不把自己当作客体，我就是灵性。当我安住于那个自由而无形的见证者中，我此刻就在上帝之中，就在这无始无终的时刻。我品尝到无限，并被充盈感浸透，正是因为我不再追寻，而只是安住于我之所是。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在亚伯拉罕出生之前，我是（</span>Before
Abraham was, I AM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。在大爆炸之前，我就是。当宇宙溶解之后，我依然。我在所有的至大与至小之中，我是。然而，我永远无法被听到、被感觉到、被知道、被看见；我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我（</span>I AM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）就是无所不在的看见者。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">正因为终极实相并不是任何被看见的东西，而是那看见者，所以任何时刻的所见内容毫无关系。无论你看见平和或动荡、看见平静或焦躁、看见极乐或惊恐、看见快乐或悲伤，都不重要：真正自由的并非这些状态，而是看见这些状态的那位看见者。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">改变状态因此变得无关紧要；承认那无所不在的看见者才是重点。即便在大探寻最盛时，乃至在我自我收缩最严重时，我也能立刻、直接地接触到这无所不在的见证者。我无需努力去让这种简单的觉知生成，也无需进入这个状态，这完全不需要任何努力。我只是注意到对于天空、对于白云的觉知已经存在；我只是注意到对那永在的见证者的觉知已经在完全运作：它并不难抵达，而是根本无法避开。我一直都在这个无所不在的觉知里，就像在一个激进的空寂之中，一切显现此刻正从其中生起。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“When I rest in the simple, clear, ever-present Witness, I
am resting in the great Unborn, I am resting in intrinsic Spirit, I am resting
in primordial Emptiness, I am resting in infinite Freedom. I cannot be seen, I
have no qualities at all. I am not this, I am not that. I am not an object. I
am neither light nor dark; neither large nor small; neither here nor there; I
have no color, no location, no space and no time; I am an utter Emptiness,
another word for infinite Freedom, unbounded to infinity. I am that opening or
clearing in which the entire manifest world arises right now, but I do not
arise in it—it arises in me, in this vast Emptiness and Freedom that I am.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Things that are seen are pleasant or painful, happy or sad,
joyous or fearful, healthy or sick—but the Seer of those things is neither
happy nor sad, neither joyous nor fearful, neither healthy nor sick, but simply
Free. As pure and simple Witness I am free of all objects, free of all
subjects, free of all time and free of all space; free of birth and free of
death, and free of all things in between. I am simply Free.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">When I rest as the timeless Witness, the Great Search is
undone. The Great Search is the enemy of the ever-present Spirit, a brutal lie
in the face of a gentle infinity. The Great Search is the search for an
ultimate experience, a fabulous vision, a paradise of pleasure, an unendingly
good time, a powerful insight—a search for God, a search for Goddess, a search
for Spirit—but Spirit is not an object. Spirit cannot be grasped or reached or
sought or seen: it is the ever-present Seer. To search for the Seer is to miss
the point. To search forever is to miss the point forever. How could you
possibly search for that which is right now aware of this page? YOU ARE THAT!
You cannot go out looking for that which is the Looker.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">When I am not an object, I am God. When I seek an object, I
cease to be God, and that catastrophe can never be corrected by more searching
for more objects.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Rather, I can only rest as the Witness, which is already
free of objects, free of time, free of suffering, and free of searching. When I
am not an object, I am Spirit. When I rest as the free and formless Witness, I
am with God right now, in this timeless and endless moment. I taste infinity
and am drenched with fullness, precisely because I no longer seek, but simply
rest as what I am.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Before Abraham was, I am. Before the Big Bang was, I am.
After the universe dissolves, I am. In all things great and small, I am. And
yet I can never be heard, felt, known, or seen; I AM is the ever-present Seer.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Precisely because the ultimate reality is not anything seen
but rather the Seer, it doesn’t matter in the least what is seen in any moment.
Whether you see peace or turmoil, whether you see equanimity or agitation,
whether you see bliss or terror, whether you see happiness or sadness, matters
not at all: it is not those states but the Seer of those states that is already
Free.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Changing states is thus beside the point; acknowledging the
ever-present Seer is the point. Even in the midst of the Great Search and even
in the worst of my self-contracting ways, I have immediate and direct access to
the ever-present Witness. I do not have to try to bring this simple awareness
into existence. I do not have to enter this state. It involves no effort at
all. I simply notice that there is already an awareness of the sky. I simply
notice that there is already an awareness of the clouds. I simply notice that
the ever-present Witness is already fully functioning: it is not hard to reach
but impossible to avoid. I am always already in the lap of this ever-present
awareness, the radical Emptiness in which all manifestation is presently
arising.”<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段落</span> 8<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当我安住于那个纯粹而简单的见证者时，我注意到这种觉知并不是一个</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">经历</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。它觉知各种经历，但它本身并非某种经历。经历会来又去。它们都有在时间中的开端、稍作停留，然后离去。但它们都生起于我所是的那片简单的开敞或清明之地。在这个广大空间里，云朵会飘过，念头会飘过，各种经历会飘过。它们都会来，也都会去。但那广大的开敞本身</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这个自由而空的</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">看见者</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，这个容纳一切事物生起的空旷场域</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">它本身并不来去，甚至根本不移动。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">因此，当我安住于这个纯粹而简单的见证者时，我不再被肉身、心智或灵性层面的各种经历所束缚或困扰。无论那些经历是高尚或低贱、神圣或世俗、愉悦或噩梦，它们都如同无尽浪潮一样在我的海洋上此起彼伏。当我安住于纯粹而简单的见证者中时，我不会再被那些体验的喜乐或苦难牵动。这些经历像浮云般越过我本来面目的天空，而我的内在对此敞开一切。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当我安住于那个纯粹而简单的见证者时，我甚至会开始注意到，见证者本身并不是一个与被见证之物分割开来的独立实体。所有事物都在见证者之内生起，以至于见证者本身最终消融于一切之中。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“When I rest in the pure and simple Witness, I notice that
this awareness is not an experience. It is aware of experiences, it is not
itself an experience. Experiences come and go. They have a beginning in time,
they stay a bit, and they pass. But they all arise in the simple opening or
clearing that is the vast expanse of what I am. The clouds float by in this
vast expanse, and thoughts float by in this vast expanse, and experiences float
by in this vast expanse. They all come, and they all go. But the vast expanse
itself, this Free and Empty Seer, this spacious opening or clearing in which
all things arise, does not itself come and go, or even move at all.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thus, when I rest in the pure and simple Witness, I am no
longer caught up in the search for experiences, whether of the flesh or of the
mind or of the spirit. Experiences—whether high or low, sacred or profane,
joyous or nightmarish—simply come and go like endless waves on the ocean of
what I am. As I rest in the pure and simple Witness, I am no longer moved to
follow the bliss and the torture of experiential displays. Experiences float
across my Original Face like clouds floating across the clear autumn sky, and
there is room in me for all.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">When I rest in the pure and simple Witness, I will even
begin to notice that the Witness itself is not a separate thing or entity, set
apart from what it witnesses. All things arise within the Witness, so much so
that the Witness itself disappears into all things.”<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段落</span> 9<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">因此，当我安住在那简单、清澈、无所不在的觉知中时，我注意到既没有</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">内在</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也没有</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">外在</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。没有主观，也没有客观。事物与事件依然完好地、清晰地在生起</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">云依然在飘，鸟儿仍在唱，凉风依然拂面</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但不再有一个</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">分离的自我</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">对它们作出回避或抗拒。这些事件就那样自然生起，而不再被那个紧缩的自我或主体不断参照和指涉。事件如其所是地生起，并在那不被一个小小的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">来定义的巨大自由中生起。它们与灵性同生，也即是灵性，在我所是的那个</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">开敞</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">或</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">清空</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">之中生起；它们并不是要被一个小我</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">看见</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">而遭到感知上的折磨。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在我收缩的模式中，我是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在里面</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的那个，在我这张脸的这边，而世界则</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在外面</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，处在</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">客观</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的一侧。我似乎就存在于自己这边，因而我的整个人生都在试图</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">保全面子</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，试图保住这个自我收缩，保住这种抓取和渴求的感觉。这感觉让我与外在世界隔离，我会对这个世界或爱或厌、或趋或避、或抓取或抵触、或爱或恨。内和外永远在对抗，充满各种希望或恐惧：这就是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">保全面子</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的戏码。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我们常说</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">丢面子如同被社死</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，这话真地很深切：我们并不想丢脸！我们不想死！我们不想终结这种</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">分离自我</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的感受！可失去面子的那种原初恐惧，正是我们最深层痛苦的根源，因为</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">保全面子</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">、保住对身心的认同，正是痛苦的机制造成者，是把宇宙（</span>Kosmos<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）撕裂成</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">内在对外在</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的暴烈裂痕，也就是我体验到的痛苦。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">然而，当我安住于那简单、清晰、无处不在的觉知之中时，我就丢掉了所谓</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">面子</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。内与外彻底消失。就像这样发生的：</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当我放下所有客体</span>——‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我不是这个，也不是那个</span>’——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">并安住在那个纯粹、简单的见证者中时，一切客体都轻松地进入我的视觉场，一切客体都生起于那见证者的空间之中。我只是一个开敞或清空，所有事物都在其中生起。我注意到所有事物都在我之中生起，在我这个开敞或清空之中。我就是那片广阔的开阔，云朵在这个开阔中飘，太阳在这开阔中照耀，天空存在于这开阔之中；天空就在我之内。我能</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">品尝</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">天空，它比我的皮肤更接近我。云朵就在我之内；我从内部看见它们。当所有事物都在我之中生起时，我就只是所有事物。宇宙是一味，而我就是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那个</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">因此，当我安住为见证者时，一切都在我之中生起，到了那样的程度，我就是一切。没有主与客这种二元，因为我并不是去看云朵，而是我就是云朵。没有主与客之分，因为我并不是感受到凉风，而是我就是那凉风。没有主与客之分，因为我并不是听见雷声，我就是那雷声。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我不再站在我这边的脸上看外面的世界；我就是世界本身。我不在</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这里</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，我丢掉了所谓的</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">面子</span>’——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">并发现了我的本来面目（</span>Original Face<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），也就是整个宇宙本身。鸟儿在唱，而我就是那声音；太阳升起，而我就是那太阳；月亮发光，而我就是那月亮，就在这简单、无所不在的觉知当中。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当我安住于那简单、清晰、无所不在的觉知时，每一个客体都有它自己的主体性。每一个事件都</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">自我看见</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，因为我现在就是那个事件本身，看见自己。我并没有在看彩虹；我是那道彩虹，它在看见自己。我没有盯着那棵树；我是那棵树，它在看见自己。整个显现的世界仍然照常生起，只是所有主、客都消失了。山依旧是那座山，但它已不再是被谁观看的客体，我也不再是某个分离的主体盯着它。我与那座山同生于那简单、无所不在的觉知里，在那个清空之中我们同得自在，在那不二的空间里我们皆获解脱，在那个无所不在的觉知之开敞中我们都开悟。那个开敞不再被称作一个</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">主体</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">或</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">客体</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的强加之暴力所分割，不再有</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在里面</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">对</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在外面</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">、</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">对</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">外界</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">之类的对立。我彻底丢掉了所谓面子，并在这简单、无所不在的觉知之中发现了上帝。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当你是所有客体的见证者，而所有客体都在你之中生起，那么你就处于彻底的自由之中，处于那无边广阔的空间。在这个简单的一味之中，风并非吹向你，而是吹在你之内；太阳并非照耀着你，而是从你本有的存在深处放射出来。下雨时你就是那场雨；它在你心里哭泣。你能一口喝下整个太平洋，你能将整个宇宙一口吞下。超新星在你心中诞生又凋亡，星系在你以为是头的地方无休止地旋转，所有这一切都和晴朗黎明时知更鸟的歌唱一样简单。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“And thus, resting in simple, clear, ever-present awareness,
I notice that there is no inside and no outside. There is no subject and no object.
Things and events are still fully present and clearly arising—the clouds float
by, the birds still sing, the cool breeze still blows—but there is no separate
self recoiling from them. Events simply arise as they are, without the constant
and agitated reference to a contracted self or subject. Events arise as they
are, and they arise in the great freedom of not being defined by a little I
looking at them. They arise with Spirit, as Spirit, in the opening or clearing
that I am; they do not arise to be seen and perceptually tortured by an ego.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">In my contracted mode, I am “in here,” on this side of my
face, looking at the world “out there,” on the “objective” side. I exist on
this side of my face, and my entire life is an attempt to save face, to save
this self-contraction, to save this sensation of grasping and seeking, a
sensation that sets me apart from the world out there, a world I will then
desire or loathe, move toward or recoil from, grasp or avoid, love or hate. The
inside and the outside are in perpetual struggle, all varieties of hope or
fear: the drama of saving face.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">We say, “To lose face is to die of embarrassment,” and that
is deeply true: we do not want to lose face! We do not want to die! We do not
want, to cease the sensation of the separate-self! But that primal fear of
losing face is actually the root of our deepest agony, because saving
face—saving an identity with the bodymind—is the very mechanism of suffering,
the very mechanism of tearing the Kosmos into an inside versus an outside, a
brutal fracture that I experience as pain.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">But when I rest in simple, clear, ever-present awareness, I
lose face. Inside and outside completely disappear. It happens just like this:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">As I drop all objects–I am not this, not that–and I rest in
the pure and simple Witness, all objects arise easily in my visual field, all
objects arise in the space of the Witness. I am simply an opening or clearing
in which all things arise. I notice that all things arise in me, arise in this
opening or clearing that I am. The clouds are floating by in this vast opening
that I am. The sun is shining in this vast opening that I am. The sky exists in
this vast opening that I am; the sky is in me. I can taste the sky, it’s closer
to me than my own skin. The clouds are on the inside of me; I am seeing them
from within. When all things arise in me, I am simply all things. The universe
is One Taste, and I am That.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">And so, when I rest as the Witness, all things arise in me,
so much so that I am all things. There is no subject and object because I do
not see the clouds, I am the clouds. There is no subject and object because I
do not feel the cool breeze, I am the cool breeze. There is no subject and
object because I do not hear the thunder clapping, I am the thunder clapping.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I am no longer on this side of my face looking at the world
out there; I simply am the world. I am not in here. I have lost face—and
discovered my Original Face, the Kosmos itself. The bird sings, and I am that.
The sun rises, and I am that. The moon shines, and I am that, in simple,
ever-present awareness.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">When I rest in simple, clear, ever-present awareness, every
object is its own subject. Every event “sees itself,” as it were, because I am
now that event seeing itself. I am not looking at the rainbow; I am the
rainbow, which sees itself. I am not staring at the tree; I am the tree, which
sees itself. The entire manifest world continues to arise, just as it is,
except that all subjects and all objects have disappeared. The mountain is
still the mountain, but it is not an object being looked at, and I am not a
separate subject staring at it. Both I and the mountain arise in simple,
ever-present awareness, and we are both set free in that clearing, we are both
liberated in that nondual space, we are both enlightened in the opening that is
ever-present awareness. That opening is free of the set-apart violence called
subject and object, in here versus out there, self against other, me against
the world. I have utterly lost face, and discovered God, in simple ever-present
awareness.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">When you are the Witness of all objects, and all objects
arise in you, then you stand in utter Freedom, in the vast expanse of all
space. In this simple One Taste, the wind does not blow on you, it blows within
you. The sun does not shine on you, it radiates from deep within your very
being. When it rains, you are weeping. You can drink the Pacific Ocean in a
single gulp, and swallow the universe whole. Supernovas are born and die all
within your heart, and galaxies swirl endlessly where you thought your head
was, and it is all as simple as the sound of a robin singing on a crystal clear
dawn.”<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段落</span> 10<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">每当我认出或承认这一无所不在的见证者，我就破除了</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">大探寻（</span>the Great Search<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，瓦解了</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">分离自我</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。而这正是终极、秘密、且不二的修行</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无修的修行（</span>the practice of no-practice<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），也就是一种简单的承认（</span>acknowledgment<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）、忆念与认知，其基石自无始以来就建立在只有灵性（</span>Spirit<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）的事实之上，一种并不难发现而是无法回避的灵性。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">灵性是唯一从未离开的东西。它是你变动无常的经历中唯一不变的常量。从字面意义上说，你已认识它亿万年。你也最好能够认可它。</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">如果你明白这一点，那就安住于那明白的那</span>(<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">颗心</span>)<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本身，而那正是灵性。如果你不明白这一点，那就安住于那不明白的那</span>(<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">颗心</span>)<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本身，而那也正是灵性。</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">因为无始以来乃至永远，唯有灵性</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">它是此刻和每一刻的见证者，一直到世界的尽头。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“Every time I recognize or acknowledge the ever-present
Witness, I have broken the Great Search and undone the separate self. And that
is the ultimate, secret, nondual practice, the practice of no-practice, the
practice of simple acknowledgment, the practice of remembrance and recognition,
founded timelessly and eternally on the fact that there is only Spirit, a
Spirit that is not hard to find but impossible to avoid.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Spirit is the only thing that has never been absent. It is
the only constant in your changing experience. You have known this for a
billion years, literally. And you might as well acknowledge it. ‘If you
understand this, then rest in that which understands, and just that is Spirit.
If you do not understand this, then rest in that which does not understand, and
just that is Spirit.’ For eternally and eternally and always eternally, there
is only Spirit, the Witness of this and every moment, even unto the ends of the
world.”<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段落</span> 11<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">灵性之眼（</span>The
Eye of Spirit<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当我安住于简单、清晰、无所不在的觉知时，我安住于本具的灵性（</span>intrinsic
Spirit<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）；实则我并不是在变成灵性，而只是认出我一直都是那个见证的灵性。当我安住于这简单、清晰、无所不在的觉知时，我就是世界的见证者。我就是灵性之眼（</span>the
eye of Spirit<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。我看这个世界如同上帝所见。我看这个世界如同女神所见。我看世界如同灵性所见：每一个客体都是美的客体，每一个事物与事件都是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">大圆满（</span>the Great Perfection<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的一个姿态，每个过程都是我自己永恒</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">存在</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">之池塘里的一片涟漪；如此之深以至于我不再独立地站在一旁成为一个分离的见证者，而发现</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">见证者</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">与其中生起的所有事物是一味。整部宇宙都在灵性之眼里生起，在灵性的</span>“I”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">里生起，在我自己本具的觉知里生起</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这个简单、无所不在的当下状态，而我正是它。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">从那简单、无所不在的觉知之基出发，一个人的整个身心将得以复活。当你安住于本初觉知（</span>primordial
awareness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）时，那觉知开始浸透你的存在，并从意识之流中孕育出一个新的使命。当大探寻被解开，自我分离被钉死在十字架上；当持续性的见证在你自身稳固下来；当无所不在的觉知成了你一直的根基</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那么你的整个身心就会更新、复活，并围绕本具灵性重新组织，而你将如同从死中站起那样，在意识中迎来新的使命与责任。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你将不再作为一个分离自我而存在（所有自我收缩对身心造成的伤害也随之消解），而是作为灵性的载体而存在（此时身心得以发挥其至高的潜能，不再被自我收缩的残酷所扭曲与折磨）。从那无所不在的觉知之基，你会展现如诸佛菩萨般的开悟品质</span>——‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">其有情（</span>sattva<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）乃无所不在之觉知（</span>bodhi<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">用什么佛教名号并不重要；重要的是它们所代表的开悟品质。要点只是：一旦你稳固地认出这简单、无所不在的觉知</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一旦大探寻和自我收缩被剥夺了它们分裂性的生命力并还归于上帝，还归于这无所不在的觉知之基</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那你就会从这无所不在的觉知之基中涌现，体现出它所拥有的种种至高可能性。你会成为那个灵性的载体。那个无所不在的根基将经由你、以你的方式活现于世，并显现为多种超凡的形态。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也许你会成为普贤王如来（</span>Samantabhadra<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），其无所不在的觉知呈现为一种广大平等的觉知：你将了知那完全显现在你之中的、无所不在的觉知，也同样完全显现在所有有情众生之中，不论任何例外，都是同一个、单一无二、同心同体、同一之灵</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一心、一识、一灵魂，在所有有情之中呼吸、跳动、脉动。你的面容本身也会提醒所有众生这一简单事实：唯有灵性，世上再无他物。没有什么比另一个更贴近上帝，因为只有上帝，只有女神。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也许你将化现为观世音菩萨（</span>Avalokiteshvara<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），其无所不在的觉知呈现为温柔的悲悯。在那明亮清晰的无所不在觉知之中，一切有情都以本具的灵性（或纯粹的空性）之形式显现，因此所有众生皆被看作灵性之子与之女。你将别无选择，只能带着精微的奉献精神去践行这一悲悯，使你的微笑温暖那些受苦者的心灵，让他们能从你那里得到承诺</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">他们也同样能够在自身本初觉知的广袤中获得解脱</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">而你永不回避。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也许你将化现为般若波罗蜜多（</span>Prajnaparamita<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），即佛之母，其无所不在的觉知呈现为广大辽阔的空间，即那无生的子宫（</span>the
womb of the great Unborn<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），整个宇宙都在其中。就最深的真理而言，正是从你这简单、清晰、无所不在的觉知之基出发，一切众生皆得以出生；也正是向你之简单、清晰、无所不在的觉知之基，一切众生将归返。安住于那闪耀清明的无所不在觉知之中，你目睹了无数世界的生起，以及一切诸佛、一切有情如是生起。它们也必将回到你这里。而你会微笑着接纳，在这恒久智慧的广大空间里接受一切，然后一切将再次开始，一次又一次地开始，永远地在你无所不在的状态之子宫中。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也许你会化现为文殊师利（</span>Manjushri<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），其无所不在的觉知呈现为光明的智能。虽然所有众生都平等地是本具灵性，但有些众生并不容易承认这无所不在的本然如是（</span>Suchness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），因此从平等觉知之基，会生起明辨智慧（</span>discriminating
wisdom<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）之光辉。你会本能地看出何为真、何为伪，从而将澄澈带给你所触碰的一切。如果自我收缩不肯听从你柔和的声音，你那无所不在的觉知将以忿怒形显现</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">据说正是那可畏的阎曼德迦（</span>Yamantaka<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），即能降伏阎魔（死亡之主）者。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也因此，你或许会化现为阎曼德迦（</span>Yamantaka<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），是对无所不在之觉知的凶猛守护者，也是本具灵性的武士。正是那些假装阻挡无所不在觉知的事物，必须被迅速斩断，这就是无所不在觉知以多种忿怒形显现的原因。你会自然而然地在平等觉知之基上，曝光虚妄与肤浅，及那些不如无所不在的。现在到了使用宝剑（而非微笑）的时候，而那宝剑即是明辨智慧之剑，会毫不留情地斩尽一切障碍，将之归入至广无垠。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也许你会化现为药师佛（</span>Bhaishajyaguru<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），其无所不在之觉知呈现为疗愈的光辉。借由无所不在觉知的明朗清晰，你会自然而然地提醒病患、悲伤者以及那些陷入痛苦的人：痛苦虽然真实，却并非他们之所是。只需简单地触碰或微笑，那紧缩的心灵便会在无限广阔的本初觉知中松弛，而疾病将在那释放的光芒中失去意义。你不会疲倦，因为无所不在的觉知在运作时毫不费力，因此你会不断地提醒所有众生，他们究竟是谁、究竟为何物，而他们的恐惧之另一端，正是无比的爱与毫不动摇的接纳</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那就是无所不在觉知的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">镜心</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也许你会化现为弥勒（</span>Maitreya<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），其无所不在的觉知呈现为一种承诺：即便直到无尽的未来，无所不在的觉知也依然只是在那里。如同本初觉知的明亮清澈，你会立愿陪伴所有众生，纵然亿万年后，因为即便那时的未来也会在简单当下的觉知中生起，正是现在所见的这个觉知。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这些只不过是那无所不在觉知的一些可能性。用什么佛教名号并不重要；任何都可以。它们只是你自我复活的一些形态，是当</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">大探寻</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">之死后能激活你的那部分潜能，是当你用灵性之眼（</span>Spirit’s ever-present eye<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）去看世界时，可能出现的几幅景象，也是此时此刻，当你以上帝的方式来看世界、从简单而无根基的无所不在觉知之基出发时可能看到的那一切。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“The Eye of Spirit<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">When I rest in simple, clear, ever-present awareness, I am
resting in intrinsic Spirit; I am in fact nothing other than witnessing Spirit
itself. I do not become Spirit; I simply recognize the Spirit that I always
already am. When I rest in simple, clear, ever-present awareness, I am the
Witness of the World. I am the eye of Spirit. I see the world as God sees it. I
see the world as the Goddess sees it. I see the world as Spirit sees it: every
object an object of Beauty, every thing and event a gesture of the Great
Perfection, every process a ripple in the pond of my own eternal Being, so much
so that I do not stand apart as a separate witness, but find the witness is one
taste with all that arises within it. The entire Kosmos arises in the eye of
Spirit, in the I of Spirit, in my own intrinsic awareness, this simple
ever-present state, and I am simply that.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">From the ground of simple, ever-present awareness, one’s
entire bodymind will resurrect. When you rest in primordial awareness, that
awareness begins to saturate your being, and from the stream of consciousness a
new destiny is resurrected. When the Great Search is undone, and the
separate-self sense has been crucified; when the continuity of witnessing has
stabilized in your own case; when ever-present awareness is your constant
ground—then your entire bodymind will regenerate, resurrect, and reorganize itself
around intrinsic Spirit, and you will arise, as from the dead, to a new destiny
and a new duty in consciousness.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">You will cease to exist as separate self (with all the
damage that does to the bodymind), and you will exist instead as vehicle of
Spirit (with the bodymind now free to function in its highest potential,
undistorted and untortured by the brutalities of the self-contraction). From
the ground of ever-present awareness, you will arise embodying any of the
enlightened qualities of the Buddhas and Bodhisattvas—”one whose being (sattva)
is ever-present awareness (bodhi).”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">The Buddhist names are not important; the enlightened
qualities they represent are. The point is simply that, once you have stably
recognized simple, ever-present awareness-once the Great Search and the
self-contraction have been robbed of separative life and returned to God,
returned to their ground in ever-present awareness-then you will arise, from
the ground of ever-present awareness, and you will embody any of the highest
possibilities of that ground. You will be vehicle of the Spirit that you are.
That ever-present ground will live through you, as you, in a variety of
superordinary forms.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Perhaps you will arise as Samantabhadra, whose ever-present
awareness takes the form of a vast equality consciousness: you will realize
that the ever-present awareness that is fully present in you is the same
awareness that is fully present in all sentient beings without exception, one
and the same, single and only—one heart, one mind, one soul that breathes and
beats and pulses through all sentient beings as such—and your very countenance
will remind all beings of that simple fact, remind them that there is only
Spirit, remind them that nothing is closer to God than anything else, for there
is only God, there is only Goddess.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Perhaps you will arise as Avalokiteshvara, whose
ever-present awareness takes the form of gentle compassion. In the brilliant
clarity of ever-present awareness, all sentient beings arise as equal forms of
intrinsic Spirit or pure Emptiness, and thus all beings are treated as the sons
and daughters of the Spirit that they are. You will have no choice but to live
this compassion with a delicate dedication, so that your very smile will warm
the hearts of those who suffer, and they will look to you for promise that
they, too, can be liberated into the vast expanse of their own primordial
awareness, and you will never turn away.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Perhaps you will arise as Prajnaparamita, the mother of the
Buddha whose ever-present awareness takes the form of a vast spaciousness, the
womb of the great Unborn, in which the entire Kosmos exists. For deepest truth,
it is exactly from the ground of your own simple, clear, ever-present awareness
that all beings are born; and it is to the ground of your simple, clear,
ever-present awareness that all beings will return. Resting in the brilliant
clarity of ever-present awareness, you watch the worlds arise, and all the
Buddhas arise, and all sentient beings as such arise. And to you they will all
return. And you will smile, and receive, in this vast expanse of everlasting
wisdom, and it will all begin again, and yet again, and always yet again, in
the womb of your ever-present state.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Perhaps you will arise as Manjushri, whose ever-present
awareness, takes the form of luminous intelligence. Although all beings are
equally intrinsic Spirit, some beings do not easily acknowledge this
ever-present Suchness, and thus discriminating wisdom will brilliantly arise
from the ground of equality consciousness. You will instinctively see what is
true and what is false, and thus you will bring clarity to everything you
touch. And if the self-contraction does not listen to your gentler voice, your
ever-present awareness will manifest in its wrathful form, which is said to be
none other than the dreaded Yamantaka, Subduer of the Lord of Death.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">And so perhaps you will arise as Yamantaka, fierce protector
of ever-present awareness and samurai warrior of intrinsic Spirit. Precisely
those items that pretend to block ever-present awareness must be quickly cut
through, which is why ever-present awareness arises in its many wrathful forms.
You will simply be moved, from the ground of equality consciousness, to expose
the false and the shallow and the less-than-ever-present. It is time for the
sword, not the smile, but always the sword of discriminating wisdom, which
ruthlessly cuts all obstacles in the ground of the all-encompassing.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Perhaps you will arise as Bhaishajyaguru, whose ever-present
awareness takes the form of a healing radiance. From the brilliant clarity of
ever-present awareness, you will be moved to remind the sick and the sad and
those in pain that although the pain is real, it is not what they are. With a
simple touch or smile, contracted souls will relax into the infinite vast
expanse of intrinsic awareness, and disease will lose all meaning in the
radiance of that release. And you will never tire, for ever-present awareness
is effortless in its functioning, and so you will constantly remind all beings
of who and what they really are, on the other side of fear, in the radical love
and unflinching acceptance that is the mirror-mind of ever-present awareness.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Perhaps you will arise as Maitreya, whose ever-present
awareness takes the form of a promise that, even into the endless future,
ever-present awareness will still be simply present. From the brilliant clarity
of primordial awareness, you will vow to be with all beings, even unto an
eternity of futures, because even those futures will arise in simple present
awareness, the same present awareness that now sees just exactly this.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Those are simply a few of the potentials of ever-present
awareness. The Buddhist names don’t matter; any will do. They are simply a few
of the forms of your own resurrection. They are a few of the possibilities that
might animate you after the death of the Great Search. They are a few of the
ways the world looks to the ever-present eye of Spirit, the ever-present I of
Spirit. They are what you see, right now, when you see the world as God sees
it, from the groundless ground of simple ever-present awareness.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段落</span> 11</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（续）</span><o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“<b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">而一切都被解开（</span>And
It Is All Undone</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也许你会以这些无所不在觉知的形态之一，或全部形式出现。但这样也无关紧要。当你安住于那无所不在觉知的璀璨明晰中时，你并不是佛或菩萨，你不是这个或那个，也不存在于这里或那里。当你安住于简单、无所不在的觉知时，你就是那伟大的无生（</span>the
great Unborn<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），从一切特质中解脱。能觉知色彩，但你本身无色；能觉知时间，但你本身无时间；能觉知形相，但你本身无形。在本初空寂（</span>primordial
Emptiness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）的广阔中，你永远对这个世界保持不可见性。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">只是说，作为一个具象化的存有（</span>embodied
being<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），你也会生起于形相的世界之中，这个世界是你的自我显现。而开悟心（</span>the
enlightened mind<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）所具有的内在潜能（也就是你那无所不在觉知的内在潜能），例如平等性、明辨智慧、如镜智、地基识以及</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">成就一切智</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">等多种特质，会与你这个个体身心的原生秉性和具体禀赋相结合。因此，当那个分离自我在它自身的无所不在觉知之广袤中死去之后，你就会在所有或部分开悟特质的激励下出现。其时，你所受驱动的并非大探寻（</span>Great
Search<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），而是这些潜能所体现的大悲心（</span>the
Great Compassion<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），其中有些表现温和，有些表现猛烈，但都只不过是你那无所不在状态的一些可能性。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">于是，当你安住于简单、清晰、无所不在的觉知时，你将带着自己最高潜能的德行与品质而现身</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也许是悲悯，也许是明辨智慧，也许是认知洞见，也许是疗愈的临在，也许是忿怒的提醒，也许是艺术的才华，也可能是运动的天赋，也或许是杰出的教育家，或者仅仅是某种极其简单的样式，说不定只是在邻里间做一位最出色的花匠。（换句话说，任何发展之流，都可能在其本初状态中自然展现。）当身心从自我收缩的残酷压迫下释放出来后，它自然会回归自己的最高境地，彰显开悟心之强大潜能，以及那简单、无所不在的觉知之伟大潜能。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">因此，当你安住于那简单、无所不在的觉知时，你就是那伟大的无生；可当你</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">出生</span>”——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也就是当你从这无所不在觉知中生起时</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你就会表现出某些特质，这些特质内蕴于本具的灵性（</span>intrinsic
Spirit<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），并被你自身身心特定禀赋所染。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无论你的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">复活</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">最终体现为何种形态，你都将不再受</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">大探寻</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的驱动，而是由你自身的大责任（</span>the Great Duty<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）、你无限的正法（</span>Dharma<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）所驱动，这正是你最高潜能的展露。因你之故，世界会开始改变。而你在那大责任中毫不畏缩，绝不背弃，在灵性的简单、无所不在的觉知的陪伴下，生生世世都不会离开，因为从现在到永远、并一直到无尽的永远，都只有灵性，只有内在觉知，只有对</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">正是此</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的简单觉知，不再多也无可少。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但整个通往</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">所是（</span>what is<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的旅途，其实从无始的开始就已展开：我们从简单地认出那个</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">永远都已如此</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的事实开始。（</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">如果你明白了这一点，那么安住于那个了知本身，而那正是灵性。如果你不明白这一点，那么安住于那个不明白本身，而那也正是灵性。</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）我们让对无所不在觉知的认出</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在白日与夜晚之间，自然而缓慢、毫不着力地生起。这个简单、无所不在的觉知并非难以获取，而是根本无法避免，我们只需注意到它即可。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我们在白天和黑夜中，温柔地、不定时地、自发地去做这件事。很快，这认出就会以它自身的力量，在清醒、做梦和熟睡三种状态下同步成长，超越那些假装掩盖其本性的障碍，直到这无所不在且简单的觉知能以无间断的连续性贯穿所有状态、所有时空。那一刻，时空将全然丧失其意义，暴露出它们本是何物</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你独自当下所是的明耀空寂之面纱</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">而你会沉醉于那美，死于那真，化入那善，从此再无人在那里见证恐惧，也无人在乎眼泪，也无人去制造不安，也无人再否认神圣。唯独只有它自存，也唯独一直如此，并将唯独一直如此。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">而在某个寒冷清透的夜晚，月光会洒向那沉寂等待的大地，仅仅是为了提醒遗留在人间的众生，这一切只是一场游戏。月光在他们沉睡的心中点燃了梦境，一种</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">觉醒</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的渴望在那不安的夜色深处升起，你会再次被牵引，去回应那些最深切的祈愿，你会发现自己就在那里，在此刻，疑惑着这一切的真正含义</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">直到那一丝认出的灵光扫过你的面庞，一切都被化解。然后你就会化为那轮月亮，于自己心中唱出那些梦；你也将化为大地，赞颂所有被祝福的众生；你将化为太阳，其光芒无限远大又显得过于显而易见；在那本初清净的一味中，没有开始没有结束，没有入口没有出口，没有生也没有死，一切都以极端的方式显现；而遥远处传来瀑布歌唱的声音，那是此时深夜里仅余的讲述，沐浴在那幽冷的月光之下，正是如此，一次又一次地，如是而已。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当禅宗大师法常（</span>Fa-ch’ang<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）临终时，屋顶上一只松鼠发出了尖叫。</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就是这样，</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">他说，</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">再无其他。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“And It Is All Undone<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Perhaps you will arise as any or all of those forms of
ever-present awareness. But then, it doesn’t really matter. When you rest in
the brilliant clarity of ever-present awareness, you are not Buddha or
Bodhisattva, you are not this or that, you are not here or there. When you rest
in simple, ever-present awareness, you are the great Unborn, free, of all
qualities whatsoever. Aware of color, you are colorless. Aware of time, you are
timeless. Aware of form, you are formless. In the vast expanse of primordial
Emptiness, you are forever invisible to this world.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">It is simply that, as embodied being, you also arise in the
world of form that is your own manifestation. And the intrinsic potentials of
the enlightened mind (the intrinsic potentials of your ever-present
awareness)—such as equanimity, discriminating wisdom, mirrorlike wisdom, ground
consciousness, and all-accomplishing awareness—various of these potentials
combine with the native dispositions and particular talents of your own
individual bodymind. And thus, when the separate self dies into the vast expanse
of its own ever-present awareness, you will arise animated by any or all of
those various enlightened potentials. You are then motivated, not by the Great
Search, but by the Great Compassion of these potentials, some of which are
gentle, some of which are truly wrathful, but all of which are simply the
possibilities of your own ever-present state.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">And thus, resting in simple, clear, ever-present awareness,
you will arise with the qualities and’ virtues of your own highest
potentials—perhaps compassion, perhaps discriminating wisdom, perhaps cognitive
insight, perhaps healing presence, perhaps wrathful reminder, perhaps artistic
accomplishment, perhaps athletic skill, perhaps great educator, or perhaps
something utterly simple, maybe being the best flower gardener on the block.
(In other words, any of the developmental lines released into their own primordial
state.) When the bodymind is released from the brutalities inflicted by the
self-contraction, it naturally gravitates to its own highest estate, manifested
in the great potentials of the enlightened mind, the great potentials of
simple, ever-present awareness.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thus, as you rest in simple, ever-present awareness, you are
the great Unborn; but as you are born—as you arise from ever-present
awareness—you will manifest certain qualities, qualities inherent in intrinsic
Spirit, and qualities colored by the dispositions of your own bodymind and its
particular talents.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">And whatever the form of your own resurrection, you will
arise driven not by the Great Search, but by your own Great Duty, your
limitless Dharma, the manifestation of your own highest potentials, and the
world will begin to change, because of you. And you will never flinch, and you
will never fail in that great Duty, and you will never turn away, because
simple, ever-present awareness will be with you now and forever, even unto the
ends of the worlds, because now and forever and endlessly forever, there is only
Spirit, only intrinsic awareness, only the simple awareness of just this, and
nothing more.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">But that entire journey to what is begins at the
beginningless beginning: we begin by simply recognizing that which is always
already the case. (“If you understand this, then rest in that which
understands, and just that is exactly Spirit. If you do not understand this,
then rest in that which does not understand, and just that is exactly Spirit.”)
We allow this recognition of ever-present awareness to arise—gently, randomly,
spontaneously, through the day and into the night. This simple, ever-present awareness
is not hard to attain but impossible to avoid, and we simply notice that.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">We do this gently, randomly, and spontaneously, through the
day and into the night. Soon enough, through all three states of waking,
dreaming, and sleeping, this recognition will grow of its own accord and by its
own intrinsic power, outshining the obstacles that pretend to hide its nature,
until this simple, ever-present awareness announces itself in an unbroken
continuity through all changes of state, through all changes of space and time,
whereupon space and time lose all meaning whatsoever, exposed for what they
are, the shining veils of the radiant Emptiness that you alone now are—and you
will swoon into that Beauty, and die into that Truth, and dissolve into that
Goodness, and there will be no one left to testify to terror, no one left to
take tears seriously, no one left to engineer unease, no one left to deny the
Divine, which only alone is, and only alone ever was, and only alone will ever
be.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">And somewhere on a cold crystal night the moon will shine on
a silently waiting Earth, just to remind those left behind that it is all a
game. The lunar light will set dreams afire in their sleeping hearts, and a
yearning to awaken will stir in the depths of that restless night, and you will
be pulled, yet again, to respond to those most plaintive prayers, and you will
find yourself right here, right now, wondering what it all really means—until
that flash of recognition runs across your face and it is all undone. You then
will arise as the moon itself, and sing those dreams in your very own heart;
and you will arise as the Earth itself, and glorify all of its blessed
inhabitants; and you will arise as the Sun itself, radiant to infinity and much
too obvious to see; and in that One Taste of primordial purity, with no
beginning and no end, with no entrance and no exit, with no birth and no death,
it all comes radically to be; and the sound of a singing waterfall, somewhere
in the distance, is all that is left to tell this tale, late on that crystal
cold night, bathed so beautifully in that lunar light, just so, and again, just
so.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">When the great Zen master Fa-ch’ang was dying, a squirrel
screeched out on the roof. “It’s just this,” he said, “and nothing more.”<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal">(<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本段</span> Ken
Wilber <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文译毕，紧接着是后文中关于</span>
“Labels: Advaita, I AMness, Ken Wilber…” <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一系列内容。</span>)<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段落</span> 13<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>“</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">差别：如实见（</span>Thusness</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）第四阶段与第五阶段（实质性的不二对与无我；</span>Substantial
Non-duality vs Anatta</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”</b><br />
Soh<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也可参见：</span><o:p></o:p></p><ul style="margin-top: 0cm;" type="disc">
 <li class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">如实见第一阶段与第二阶段及其他阶段的区别</span><o:p></o:p></li>
 <li class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">区分</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我（</span>I
     AM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">、</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一心（</span>One
     Mind<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">、</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无心（</span>No
     Mind<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">与</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无我（</span>Anatta<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<o:p></o:p></li>
 <li class="MsoNormal">“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无心与无我：专注于洞见</span>”<o:p></o:p></li>
</ul><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Difference Between Thusness Stage 4 and 5 (Substantial
Non-duality vs Anatta)<br />
Soh<br />
Also see: Difference Between Thusness Stage 1 and 2 and other Stages<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Differentiating I AM, One Mind, No Mind and Anatta<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">No Mind and Anatta, Focusing on Insight<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段落</span> 14<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">会话开始时间：</span>2009</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年</span>3</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">月</span>14</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">日，星期六</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(11:50 PM) AEN: “‘Nevertheless it is a very key phase’<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你的意思是非常重要的关键阶段吗？</span>”<br />
(11:51 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是的。</span>”<br />
(11:52 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不过除了稳定不二外，第四阶段与第五阶段还有什么区别吗？</span>”<br />
(11:54 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你需要自己面对这个问题才知道，光靠言语是不行的。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">因为你还没有真正体验过</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无分</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>non-division<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），因此你不知道那种</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无分</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是什么，也不知道</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无造作者性（</span>non-doership<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">以及</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在体验中没有施为者</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">主体（</span>no agent<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是什么，这就很难知道究竟是什么在阻碍你体验自发性。</span>”<br />
(11:56 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">哦，我明白了</span>……”<br />
(11:58 PM) Thusness: “‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">思考者</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">思想</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">合一，或</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">听者</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">声音</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">合一，然后：声音即觉知，没有个听者</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这之间是有区别的。第四阶段更像是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">听者</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">声音合一</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。（</span>Soh:&nbsp;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">声音即觉知，没有个听者才是第五阶段）</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这也是为什么我说，</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一个念头接着另一个念头</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，就像你，你说你感受到自己像一个开放的虚空，然后你听到声音，声音和觉知似乎是一体的；二者不可分辨，但你还无法有那种</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">只有声音</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的体验</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在逻辑上你知道，可是在经验中还没有。只有当有一天那个体验成熟时</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b>Session
Start: Saturday, March 14, 2009<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(11:50 PM) AEN: 'Nevertheless it is a very key phase'<br />
u mean very important key phase?<br />
(11:51 PM) Thusness: yeah<br />
(11:52 PM) AEN: icic..<br />
btw wats the difference between stage 4 and 5 other than stabilizing non dual<br />
(11:54 PM) Thusness: u need to face the problem to know<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span>it is not in
words<br />
(11:55 PM) Thusness: because u have not experienced non-division<br />
(11:55 PM) Thusness: so u do not know what is non divison<br />
(11:55 PM) Thusness: what is no-doership and what is no agent in experience<br />
(11:56 PM) Thusness: and it is difficult to know what is that 'marks' that
prevent the experience of spontaneity <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(11:58 PM) Thusness: there is a difference seeing
thinker/thoughts as one<br />
(11:58 PM) Thusness: and hearer/sound as one<br />
then sound is awareness, no hearer<br />
(11:58 PM) Thusness: stage 4 is more like hearer/sound as one<br />
(11:59 PM) Thusness: that is why i said one thought, then another thought<br />
just like u, u said u feel like an open space<br />
(11:59 PM) Thusness: then u hear sound<br />
sound and awareness seem to be one<br />
(12:00 AM) Thusness: indistinguishable but u cannot have that experience that
there is only sound<br />
only in logic u have but not in experience<br />
(12:00 AM) Thusness: until one day u mature that experience<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>1<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:01 AM)
AEN: icic..<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">刚才我看了</span>
truthz <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的博客列表里出现的一个网站</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我的意思是，不是</span>
truthz <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的博客，而是他博客里出现的链接</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:01 AM) AEN: icic..<br />
just now i saw a website from truthz's blog lists<br />
i mean not truthz's blog but the blog link appeared in his<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>2<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:02 AM)
AEN: <a href="http://buddhaspace.blogspot.com/" target="_new">http://buddhaspace.blogspot.com/</a><br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">正确的知见</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">八正道中第一支</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">源于觉察色、声、香、味、触境之无常、苦、与无我之本质。当所有这些现象都被了知为非我时，心会转向内，寻找它可能会执取为</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的东西。但如果它以绝对清晰的方式看，就会发现空性。在感官、感受、念头和意识的背后，是清晰、无尽的空间。我有时称之为</span>‘Buddha
Space<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（佛虚空）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:02 AM) AEN: <a href="http://buddhaspace.blogspot.com/" target="_new">http://buddhaspace.blogspot.com/</a><br />
Correct Understanding - the first of the eight aspects of the Noble Eightfold
Path - arises out of noticing the impermanent, unsatisfactory, and impersonal
nature of sights, sounds, smells, tastes, and tactile objects. When all these
phenomena are realized to be not self, the mind will turn inwards, seeking out
what it might cling to as ‘me’. But if it looks with absolute clarity it will
find emptiness. Behind sensations, feelings, thoughts, and consciousness, there
lies clear, endless space. I sometimes call it ‘Buddha Space’.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>3<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:05 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是啊</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那是错误的知见。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:05 AM) Thusness: yeah<br />
that is wrong view.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>4<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:05 AM)
AEN: oic..<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:05 AM) AEN: oic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>5<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:06 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在我们的洞见成熟之前，这一点是很难真正看清的。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">即使在第四阶段，这也会很困难，但它已经是迈向无我（</span>anatta<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）的第一步了。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:06 AM) Thusness: it is very difficult to see the truth of this until our
insight matures<br />
even at stage 4, it can be difficult but it is already the first steps towards
anatta<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>6<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:06 AM)
AEN: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">难以做什么？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">看见无我？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:06 AM) AEN: difficult to what<br />
see anatta?<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>7<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:06 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是的。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:06 AM) Thusness: yeah<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>8<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:06 AM)
AEN: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:06 AM) AEN: oic<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>9<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:07 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你必须看见</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">施为者</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">主体（</span>agent<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，不只是没有分裂而已。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:07 AM) Thusness: u must see the no agent<br />
not only no division<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>10<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:07 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就像我之前跟你说的，有</span>
3 <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">个阶段。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:07 AM) Thusness: like i told u there are 3 stages<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（指：<b>对非二元三个层次的</b></span><b>“</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">理解</span>”<br />
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</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本文：</span>&nbsp;</b><a href="http://awakeningtoreality.blogspot.com.au/2009/01/three-levels-of-understanding-of-non.html"><b>http://awakeningtoreality.blogspot.com.au/2009/01/three-levels-of-understanding-of-non.html</b></a><b><br />
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</b>26-01-2009<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">真如</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">过路人对我的答复：</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">“我所说的不太正确。思想在，但没有思考者。声音在，但没有听者。<b>觉性不离念头和现象。</b>”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">真如：是的，但所说的仍然可以有以下的情况：</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><br />
1<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。有个觉体在反射念头和现象。（</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是”）</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">体验到明亮如镜的清晰</span>,<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但被曲解了。有二元对立和自性（“固有的存在”</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">“实体”）的知见。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><br />
2<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。镜子需要念头和现象来见到自己。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">非二元但有自性（“固有的存在”</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">“实体”）的知见。非二元之洞见的开始。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><br />
3<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。念头和现象本来就是镜子（这里的镜子被视为一个整体）。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">非二元和非自性（“固有的存在”</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">“实体”）的洞见。</span><br />
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<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在第</span>3<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">根本不可能在任何的生起中画出任何细微的“线条”；无论任何似乎在来去</span>(<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">之物）都是觉性的本身。除此之外没有任何其他的觉性。我们应该用无我的教义、缘起和性空来看待觉性的“色</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">妙有”。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2009/01/three-levels-of-understanding-of-non.html">The
Three Levels of "Understanding" of Non-dual Awareness</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i>Soh<o:p></o:p></i></b></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thusness/Passerby's reply to me (slightly edited based on
references to another post):<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Originally posted by An Eternal Now:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">What I said here, is not really correct. Thought is, but no
thinker. Sound is, but no hearer.&nbsp;<b>Awareness cannot be separated from
thoughts and manifestation</b>.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Yes but what said can still have the following scenario:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">1. There is an Awareness reflecting thoughts and
manifestation. ("I AM")<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Mirror bright is experienced but distorted. Dualistic and
Inherent seeing.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">2. Thoughts and manifestation are required for the mirror to
see itself.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Non-Dualistic but Inherent seeing. Beginning of non-dual
insight.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">3. Thoughts and manifestation have always been the mirror
(The mirror here is seen as a whole)<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Non-Dualistic and non-inherent insight.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">In 3 not even a quantum line can be drawn from whatever
arises;&nbsp;whatever that appears to come and goes is the Awareness itself.
There is no Awareness other than that.&nbsp;We should use the teachings of
Anatta<i>&nbsp;(no-self)</i>, DO&nbsp;<i>(dependent origination)</i>&nbsp;and
Emptiness to see the 'forms' of awareness.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Labels:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/search/label/Non%20Dual">Non Dual</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/search/label/Stages%20of%20Enlightenment">Stages
of Enlightenment</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">续上条消息，继续完整翻译，不做删减</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>11<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:08 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">后面会进入纯粹的无二光明（</span>non-dual
luminosity<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:08 AM) Thusness: later into just this non-dual luminosity<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>12<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:09 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">如果你去问那些主张无二的人，他们不会意识到自己其实就是那个生起的念头，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:09 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就像</span> Jeff
Foster <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">所说的那样。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:09 AM) Thusness: if u ask non-dualists, they will not realise that they are
an arising thought<br />
(12:09 AM) Thusness: like what jeff foster said<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>13<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:09 AM)
AEN: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">噢，明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:09 AM) AEN: oic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>14<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:10 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">他们会感觉非常</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">终极（</span>ultimate<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:10 AM) Thusness: they will feel damn ultimate<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>15<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:10 AM)
AEN: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我知道</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">比如梵（</span>Brahman<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）那样。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:10 AM) AEN: ic..<br />
like brahman<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>16<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:11 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是啊，所以他们看见的是</span>“(<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">大</span>)<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我（</span>self<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，而不是真正的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">事件、过程、现象</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:11 AM) Thusness: yes so they see self<br />
not events, process phenomena<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>17<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:12 AM)
AEN: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:12 AM) AEN: oic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>18<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:12 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">他们所见的是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">梵</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>Brahman<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），而非</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">空性</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>sunyata<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:12 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">虽然体验非常相似，但他们的洞见并没有成熟到无我。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:12 AM) Thusness: they see brahman, not sunyata<br />
(12:12 AM) Thusness: even the experiences are very similar<br />
the insight has not matured into anatta<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>19<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:13 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就像真言宗（</span>shingon<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）那样的修行，其体验可以说是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">摩诃（</span>maha<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">式的，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不过那并不是我所说的真正</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">摩诃</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">式体验；</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那是一种</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一体</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>oneness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）的体验，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但这只是个阶段而已。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:13 AM) Thusness: like shingon sort of practice, the experience can be said
to be maha like<br />
but it is not the maha sort of experience i am talking about<br />
(12:13 AM) Thusness: it is oneness sort of experience<br />
but it is a stage<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>20<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:14 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我所说的是，</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一体</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">之境其实一直都在。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:14 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当一个人证悟到临在（</span>presence<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）向来都是缘起互涉（</span>interconnectedness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）的显现与完全体现时，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:15 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无需任何努力，就能自然显现那</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">摩诃</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的体验。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:14 AM) Thusness: what i said is oneness is always there<br />
(12:14 AM) Thusness: when one realises that presence is always a manifestation
and full embodiment of interconnectedness<br />
(12:15 AM) Thusness: no effort needs to be done to induce a maha experience<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>21<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:23 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">要以</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">摩诃</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">作为根本，还需要一些条件。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:23 AM)
Thusness: 1<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）对无二体验已经成熟；</span><br />
2<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）要有对</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">缘起</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>DO, dependent origination<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）的深入认识；</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:23 AM) Thusness: there are few conditions to experience maha as a ground<br />
(12:23 AM) Thusness: 1. mature in non-dual experience<br />
2. DO (dependent origination)<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>22<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:24 AM)
Thusness: 3<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）还要亲身体验并理解</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">相互关联性</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就是整个宇宙本身，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这样的话，</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">甚至</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无二</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本身都会变得无关紧要。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:24 AM) Thusness: 3. experience and understand that 'interconnectedness' is
the universe itself<br />
then 'self' and even non dual becomes quite irrelevant<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>23<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:25 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">事实上，现在对我而言，</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在（</span>presence<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">并不是被理解成</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无二</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:26 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">而是被视为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">缘起</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>DO<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:26 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在那里，</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无二</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">已经包含进去了。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:25 AM) Thusness: in fact now presence is not understand as non-dual to me.<br />
(12:26 AM) Thusness: but as DO<br />
(12:26 AM) Thusness: where non-dual is already included<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（省略号处为原文中已有的</span>“.......”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（接下来是</span> 2008
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年的对话内容。）</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
.......<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">2008:<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>24<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:46 PM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">肯</span>·<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯（</span>Ken Wilber<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）有没有谈到无我（</span>anatta<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:46 PM) Thusness: Does ken (Ken Wilber) talk about anatta<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">续上条消息，继续完整翻译，不做删减</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>25<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:46 PM)
AEN: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">没有。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:46 PM) AEN: no<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>26<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:47 PM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那他讨论的是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无二论（</span>Advaita<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那一类的理解吗？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:47 PM) Thusness: Or Advaita sort of understanding<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>27<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:47 PM)
AEN: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">对，属不二论（</span>advaita<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。（肯</span>·<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯处在</span>John Tan/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">真如的见阶段四）</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:47 PM) AEN: advaita (Ken Wilber is at Thusness Stage 4)<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>28<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:47 PM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那你为什么还一直问我？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:47 PM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">什么是无我？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:47 PM) Thusness: Then y u kept asking me.<br />
(11:47 PM) Thusness: What is anatta?<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>29<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:48 PM)
AEN: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是啊，可是我的意思是，</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无二</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">体验并不是像第二阶段那种一闪而过的体验，而是一种无时不在的实相吗？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:48 PM)
AEN: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无我指的是无</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">施为者</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">主体（</span>agent<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）以及缘起（</span>dependent origination<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）吗？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:48 PM) AEN: ya but wat i mean is nondual experience is not as in stage 2
type of passing experience, but as everpresent reality?<br />
(11:48 PM) AEN: anatta is no agent and dependent origination?<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>30<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:48 PM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我不是和你说过，要把无二体验当作</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">动词</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">来看吗？（</span>Soh: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">参见我的文章《</span>The
Wind is Blowing, Blowing is the Wind<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">》）</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:48 PM) Thusness: Didn't I tell u understanding non-dual experience as verb.
(Soh: refer to my article The Wind is Blowing, Blowing is the Wind)<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>31<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:48 PM)
AEN: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:48 PM) AEN: icic<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>32<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:49 PM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不是一个独立、恒常不变的实体，对吗？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:49 PM) Thusness: Not an entity that is independent and unchanging?<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>33<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:49 PM)
AEN: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">可是肯</span>·<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯说，</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你就是那个，而没有</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你</span>’——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">只有这个自发生起、明亮闪耀的整体显现，每一刻都自发呈现。那个分离的小我在哪里也找不到。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:49 PM) AEN: but ken wilber say "You are that, and there is no you –
just this entire luminous display spontaneously arising moment to moment. The
separate self is nowhere to be found."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>34<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:50 PM)
AEN: *<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">哦，我懂了。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:50 PM) AEN: *oic<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>35<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:50 PM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无二体验意味着对</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无分离</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">非常清晰（就像如真如第四阶段）。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:50 PM) Thusness: Non-dual experience is there is clarity of no separation
(As in Thusness Stage 4)<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>36<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:51 PM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">第二阶段是那种</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我溶解了，我与之合一</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的感觉，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:51 PM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就像我化开、融入。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:51 PM) Thusness: Stage 2 is there is merging<br />
(11:51 PM) Thusness: As if I dissolved and merge..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>37<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:51 PM)
AEN: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:51 PM) AEN: icic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>38<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:52 PM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那是有二元，有</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">两个</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:52 PM) Thusness: There r two, dual<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>39<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:52 PM)
AEN: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:52 PM) AEN: oic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>40<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:52 PM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无二指的是从未存在任何分离，没有裂隙。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:52 PM) Thusness: Non-dual is there never was a separation<br />
(11:52 PM) Thusness: No split<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>41<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:53 PM)
AEN: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:53 PM) AEN: icic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>42<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:53 PM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">并没有一个单独的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:53 PM) Thusness: There is no separate I.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>43<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:53 PM)
AEN: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原来如此</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:53 PM) AEN: oic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>44<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:53 PM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但是，这个</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">觉知（</span>awareness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">仍非常像是一个恒常、不变的东西。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:53 PM) Thusness: But this awareness is still very much constant, permanent
and unchanging<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>45<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:54 PM)
AEN: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我知道了</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:54 PM) AEN: icic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>46<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:54 PM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">则更进一步，它会彻底理解到底什么是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无二体验</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:55 PM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这是洞见上的一次飞跃。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:54 PM) Thusness: Anatta goes further and understand exactly what is
non-dual experience<br />
(11:55 PM) Thusness: This is a break-through in insight<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>47<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:55 PM)
AEN: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我懂了</span>……<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:55 PM)
AEN: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">它是关于把它辨识为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">缘起</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">吗？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:55 PM) AEN: oic..<br />
(11:55 PM) AEN: its about discerning it as DO?<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>48<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:55 PM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">有思维，却没有施为者</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">主体（</span>thinker<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:55 PM) Thusness: There is thinking, no thinker<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>49<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:55 PM)
AEN: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我明白。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:55 PM) AEN: icic<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>50<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:55 PM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">有所见，却没有见者（</span>seer<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:55 PM) Thusness: Seen no seer<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>51<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:56 PM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">声音，没有听者。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:56 PM) Thusness: Sound no hearer<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>52<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:56 PM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:56 PM) AEN: oic<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>53<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:56 PM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">理解</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">成为</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">变化</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">而没有</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">存在者</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:56 PM) Thusness: Understood becoming no being<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>54<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:56 PM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:56 PM) AEN: icic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>55<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:57 PM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">要理解</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">对象</span>@’……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:57 PM) Thusness: Understand that object@<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>56<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:57 PM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你是什么意思？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:57 PM) AEN: wat u mean<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>57<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:59 PM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">客体</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">主体，其实是把</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">动词</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">割裂成片段后所形成的结果。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:59 PM) Thusness: Object/subject is the result of compartmentizing 'verb'<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>58<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:59 PM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">行动（</span>Action<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:59 PM) Thusness: Action<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>59<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:59 PM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:59 PM) AEN: icic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>60<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>11:59 PM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">思考变成了</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">施为者</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">主体（</span>thinker<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">与</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">念头</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这就是无我（</span>anatta<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:59 PM) Thusness: Thinking becomes thinker and thoughts<br />
(11:59 PM) Thusness: That is anatta<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>61<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:00 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">它是一种直接的体验：没有思考的施为者</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">主体（</span>thinker<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），只有念头。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:00 AM) Thusness: It is the direct experience that there is no thinker, just
thoughts<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>62<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:01 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在看见时，永远只有</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">所见</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:01 AM) Thusness: In seeing, always only the seen.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>63<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:01 AM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这就是你所说的肯</span>·<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯那种</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无二却似乎永久不变</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的意思吗？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你说：</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你并不是那个经历解脱的人；你是那个开阔的空性，在其中任何体验都来来去去，就像镜中的映像。而你就是镜子，那明镜心（</span>mirror
mind<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），并不是任何被体验到的映像。但你并不和那些映像分开，退在一旁看。你就是每一刻生起的所有事物。你能一口吞下整个宇宙，它是如此之小，你能在不动分毫之下品味天空。</span>’”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:01 AM) AEN: is this wat u mean by nondual yet permanent (for ken wilber):<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">You are not the one who experiences liberation; you are the
clearing, the opening, the emptiness, in which any experience comes and goes,
like reflections on the mirror. And you are the mirror, the mirror mind, and
not any experienced reflection. But you are not apart from the reflections,
standing back and watching. You are everything that is arising moment to
moment. You can swallow the whole cosmos in one gulp, it is so small, and you
can taste the sky without moving an inch.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">续上条消息，继续完整翻译，不做删减</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>64<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:01 AM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:01 AM) AEN: icic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>65<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:03 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是的，这就是我所说的</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">知见与无二体验之间的错位（</span>desync<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当洞见真正生起，就不会有这种错位。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:03 AM) Thusness: Yes what I called desync of view and non-dual experience<br />
(12:04 AM) Thusness: When insight arises, there is no desync<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>66<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:04 AM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:04 AM) AEN: oic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>67<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:05 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无二体验在这种情形下就会被清晰地理解，因为从来就没有一个</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">二</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一直只有显现。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:05 AM) Thusness: Non-dual experience is clearly understood because there
never was one.<br />
(12:05 AM) Thusness: It is always only manifestation<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>68<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:06 AM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">从来没有什么？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:06 AM) AEN: there never was what?<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>69<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:06 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">缘起（</span>DO<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）就是这无常流动（</span>the operation mechanism of
the Transience<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）的运作机制；</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:06 AM)
Thusness: ‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">从未真实存在。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:06 AM) Thusness: DO is the operation mechanism of the Transience<br />
(12:06 AM) Thusness: A self<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>70<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:06 AM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:06 AM) AEN: icic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>71<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:10 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">要获得如此清晰其实很难，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:11 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">只有佛陀才能彻底明了。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:11 AM)
AEN: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">噢</span>……<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:12 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">即便是修行佛法的人也常有很多误解，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:12 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">他们看不到这教法有多么一致且精妙。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:10 AM) Thusness: It is very difficult to have such clarity<br />
(12:11 AM) Thusness: Only Buddha has it<br />
(12:11 AM) AEN: oic..<br />
(12:12 AM) Thusness: Even buddhist practitioners have so much mis-conceptions<br />
(12:12 AM) Thusness: They can't see how consistent and precise the teaching is<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>72<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:13 AM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">对了，这还不算是真正的无二体验，对吧？比较像</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我（</span>I AM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">世界持续前进</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我们不去把多样性看作终极，而是安住在其下的</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一</span>’……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就好像海洋或幻相只是流动的意识表面波浪</span>……‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">莎克提（</span>shakti<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">把潜在的意识海洋显现成一个有限可见的形态</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但围绕、贯穿并包覆那个形态的，其实是同一个意识，它是整片海洋</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">只是当你沉静于深处时，你知道那广阔，而不只是局限</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:13 AM) AEN: icic..<br />
btw this is not yet nondual experience rite, more like I AM?:<br />
"the world moves forward as it is..... but instead of seeing the diversity
as the ulitmate the One underneath it all is rested in..... Like the ocean
reality or maya is simply the surface waves of moving consciousness.... shakti
which manifests the underlying Ocean of Consciousness into a limited visible
form..... But what is beneath and around and within that form is simply the
same consciousness which comprises the Whole of the Ocean.... But in the calm
of the depths you know the vastness instead of the limited......"<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>73<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:16 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">对。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:16 AM) Thusness: Yes<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>74<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:16 AM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白了。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:16 AM) AEN: icic<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>75<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:17 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那是在</span>‘bond<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（束缚）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的影响之下，却毫不自知。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:17 AM) Thusness: Under the influence of the 'bond' without knowing it<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">续上条消息，继续完整翻译，不做删减</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>76<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:17 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">第一到第六阶段是无法跳过的。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:17 AM) Thusness: Stage 1 to 6 cannot be skipped<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>77<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:17 AM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你是什么意思？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:17 AM) AEN: wat do u mean<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>78<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:18 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">最好是一个个体验地走完。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:18 AM) Thusness: Best experienced that way.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>79<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:18 AM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:18 AM) AEN: oic<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>80<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:18 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一个修行者无法跳过这些阶段。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:18 AM) Thusness: A practitioner cannot skip stages<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>81<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:18 AM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但是有的佛教修行似乎会跳过某些阶段吧？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">比如说</span> dharma
dan <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">从来没经历过</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我（</span>I AM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:18 AM) AEN: but buddhist path skips some rite<br />
(12:18 AM) AEN: like dharma dan never go through 'i am'<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>82<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:18 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是的。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:19 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这样会导致深度的澄明度不足。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就像</span>
grimnexus <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">把阶段四和阶段五看成一样。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:18 AM) Thusness: Yes<br />
(12:19 AM) Thusness: the depth of clarity will not be there<br />
(12:19 AM) Thusness: Like grimnexus see 4 same as 5.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>83<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:20 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但一个真正经历过的人会很清楚它们的区别。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:20 AM) Thusness: But a person that undergone knows clearly.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>84<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:21 AM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原来如此。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是啊，他觉得是一样的。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">对了，</span>grimnexus
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是在第四阶段对吧？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:21 AM) AEN: oic<br />
(12:21 AM) AEN: ya he tot its the same<br />
(12:21 AM) AEN: btw grimnexus at stage 4 rite<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>85<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:21 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就好像肯</span>·<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯和</span> Ajahn Amaro<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，看起来体验相同，但即使是</span> Ajahn Amaro <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也觉得两者是一样的。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:21 AM) Thusness: Like ken and Ajahn amaro, seems the same but even Ajahn
Amaro thought it is the same.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>86<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:21 AM)
AEN: “grimnexus <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">很久没上线了，他好像几个月没出现了。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原来如此。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:21 AM) AEN: long time nv see him online liao, he like never came online for
many months<br />
(12:21 AM) AEN: oic<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>87<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:21 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你干吗老是为别人的阶段而操心？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:21 AM) Thusness: Why u worry so much abt others ppl stage?<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>88<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:22 AM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">哈哈</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:22 AM) AEN: lol<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>89<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:23 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你倒不如多祈愿自己不要被误导，以免再陷无数轮回。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:23 AM)
AEN: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">噢</span>……<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:23 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你必须要能正确辨识才是。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:24 AM)
AEN: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:23 AM) Thusness: Rather pray hard that u will not be misled and go through
countless lives of rebirth again<br />
(12:23 AM) AEN: oic..<br />
(12:23 AM) Thusness: What u must have is to correctly discern<br />
(12:24 AM) AEN: icic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">续上条消息，继续完整翻译，不做删减</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>90<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:25 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">如果你想对那</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">六个阶段</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的精髓拥有清晰的理解，就要明辨、正确地理解。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:25 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">倘若我不在了呢？</span>”<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:25 AM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:25 AM) Thusness: If u want to hv clarity of the essence of the six phases,
discern and understand correctly.<br />
(12:25 AM) Thusness: What if I m no more around?<br />
(12:25 AM) AEN: oic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>91<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:26 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">如果连</span> Ajahn
Amaro <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">都分不清，更别说其他人了。</span>”<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:26 AM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……”<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:26 AM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那</span> dharma
dan <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">呢？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:26 AM) Thusness: If Ajahn Amaro cannot know the diff, much less is others<br />
(12:26 AM) AEN: icic..<br />
(12:26 AM) AEN: dharma dan leh<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>92<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:26 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你还是先问问自己是否真的正确理解了，然后再问其他人。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:26 AM) Thusness: Rather ask urself have u correctly understood then abt
others<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>93<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:27 AM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:27 AM) AEN: icic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>94<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:27 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我怎么会知道？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:27 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你总是问我别人的状况，我更担心你。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:27 AM) Thusness: How I know?<br />
(12:27 AM) Thusness: U kept asking abt others, I worry more abt u.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>95<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:27 AM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:27 AM) AEN: icic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>96<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:28 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">如果你真的明白，你就能知道他们是否抵达了那个层次。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:28 AM) Thusness: If u know, u will be able to know r they there.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>97<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:28 AM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:28 AM) AEN: oic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>98<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:29 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">好比</span> Ken <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">和</span> Ajahn Amaro<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，他们显然有同样的体验，却有不同的理解。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:29 AM)
Thusness: David Loy <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也把他们当作一样的境界，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:29 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">却没意识到两者的差别。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:29 AM) Thusness: Like ken and Ajahn Amaro clearly have same experience but
different understanding<br />
(12:29 AM) Thusness: David loy treat them the same too.<br />
(12:29 AM) Thusness: Not realizing the differences<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>99<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:30 AM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:30 AM) AEN: icic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>100<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:30 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">所以，你要拥有正确的理解。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:31 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一个是依止（</span>abiding<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），另一个是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不住（</span>non-abiding<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">；</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:32 AM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:30 AM) Thusness: So have the right understanding<br />
(12:31 AM) Thusness: One is abiding, the other is non-abiding<br />
(12:32 AM) AEN: icic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>101<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:32 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一个仍然在用力，另一个则是无功用（</span>effortless<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）的。</span>”<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:32 AM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:32 AM) Thusness: One is still efforting, the other is effortless<br />
(12:32 AM) AEN: oic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>102<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:33 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一个是梵（</span>Brahman<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），另一个是缘起（</span>DO<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:33 AM) Thusness: One is Brahman, the other is DO<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>103<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:34 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一个是镜子，另一个则是纯然的显现。</span>”<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:34 AM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:34 AM) Thusness: One is mirror, the other is pure manifestation<br />
(12:34 AM) AEN: icic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>104<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:36 AM)
Thusness: “‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">大我</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在不自觉中被抓住，因为它被设定为独立且不变的。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:36 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">因而他们无法珍惜那</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无常流变（</span>Transience<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:36 AM) Thusness: 'Self' is grasped unknowingly because it is independent,
changeless<br />
(12:36 AM) Thusness: Therefore they can't treasure the Transience<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>105<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:37 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">他们无法看见</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">因缘</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>conditions<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:37 AM)
AEN: ‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……’”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:37 AM) Thusness: They can't c conditions<br />
(12:37 AM) AEN: oic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>106<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:37 AM)
Thusness: “‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无常</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">与</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">因缘</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">才是最神圣的。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:38 AM)
Thusness: ‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">大我</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">怎么可能看见这一点？</span>”<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:38 AM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:37 AM) Thusness: The Transience and conditions are most sacred<br />
(12:38 AM) Thusness: How can Self c this?<br />
(12:38 AM) AEN: icic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>107<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:39 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但我们必须知道</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无常</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的空性本质（</span>emptiness nature<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），它是不可寻、不可执的，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:39 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">而且它是在条件具足时生起。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:39 AM) Thusness: But one must know the emptiness nature of Transience,
unfindable and ungraspable<br />
(12:39 AM) Thusness: And rises when condition is<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>108<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:40 AM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:40 AM) AEN: oic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>109<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:40 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当我们谈到属性（</span>attributes<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）时，我们指的是觉知（</span>awareness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）的空性本质。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:40 AM) Thusness: When we say attributes, we r referring to the empty nature
of awareness<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>110<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:41 AM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你是什么意思？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:41 AM) AEN: wat u mean<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>111<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:41 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">然而，</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">觉知</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">却充满各种色彩。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:41 AM) Thusness: But awareness is full of colors<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>112<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:41 AM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你的意思是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无属性（</span>attributelessness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">吗？</span>”<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:41 AM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:41 AM) AEN: u mean attributelessness?<br />
(12:41 AM) AEN: icic<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>113<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:41 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就像花的</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">红色</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那样。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:41 AM) Thusness: Like 'redness' of a flower<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>114<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:42 AM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:42 AM) AEN: icic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>115<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:42 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但对不二论（</span>advaitins<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）来说，那就是一种缺失（</span>absence<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:42 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">他们认为与</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">觉知</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无关。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:42 AM) Thusness: But to advaitins, it is absence<br />
(12:42 AM) Thusness: Nothing to do with awareness<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>116<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:43 AM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你的意思是他们把</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">觉知</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">看作无形无相吗？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:43 AM) AEN: u mean they see awareness as formless?<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>117<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:43 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是的。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:43 AM) Thusness: yes<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>118<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:43 AM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我明白了。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:43 AM) AEN: icic<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>119<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:44 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也就是说，他们认为</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无属性</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无色、无形</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:44 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但佛教所说的</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无属性</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，指的是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">它的空性本质</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">而并非真的有某个无形实体。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:44 AM) Thusness: Means absence of attributes as colorless, formless<br />
(12:44 AM) Thusness: But what buddhism is referring is its emptiness nature<br />
(12:45 AM) Thusness: Not that there is a real formless entity<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>120<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:45 AM)
AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:45 AM) AEN: oic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>121<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:45 AM)
Thusness: “‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">觉知</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就是在条件具足时显现的各种表相。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:46 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">所以</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">觉知</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">并不脱离念头而存在。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:46 AM)
Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">对不二论者来说，它则是这样的（</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">觉知脱离念头而存在</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:45 AM) Thusness: Awareness is appearances appearing when condition is<br />
(12:46 AM) Thusness: awareness is not free of thoughts<br />
(12:46 AM) Thusness: To advaitins, it is.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>122<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:47 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">对一个真正的佛教修行者而言，</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">念头</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本身就是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">觉知</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一念生起，然后下一念。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就如</span> Ajahn
Amaro <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">所说。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">没有对</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无念头</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">或</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无概念</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的执著，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">所有都会以最鲜明的形式被经验到。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:47 AM) Thusness: To buddhist practitioner, thought is awareness<br />
(12:48 AM) Thusness: One thought arises<br />
(12:48 AM) Thusness: Next one<br />
(12:48 AM) Thusness: Like what Ajahn Amaro said<br />
(12:48 AM) Thusness: There is no worry abt no thought, no conceptuality<br />
(12:49 AM) Thusness: All will be experienced in their most vivid forms<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>123<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:49 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我得走了。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:49 AM)
AEN: ‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">好的，晚安。</span>’<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:49 AM) Thusness: I got to go now.<br />
(12:49 AM) AEN: oic..<br />
(12:49 AM) AEN: ok gd nite<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>124<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:49 AM)
Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">晚安。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(12:49 AM) Thusness: Nite<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（省略号处为原文中的</span>“....”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
....<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（以下为时间为</span>
15/4/13 <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的记录）</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
15/4/13 12:53:28 AM: John Tan: Anatta is a realization that there isn't a consciousness
besides sound, scenery...etc<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">续上条消息，继续完整翻译，不做删减</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（以下为时间为</span>
15/4/13 <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的对话内容）</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>125<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
15/4/13 12:53:28 AM: John Tan: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无我（</span>anatta<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）是一种洞见</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">没有一个独立于声音、景象</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">等等之外的</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">意识</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
15/4/13 12:53:28 AM: John Tan: Anatta is a realization that there isn't a
consciousness besides sound, scenery...etc<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>126<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
15/4/13 12:56:15 AM: John Tan: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你通过破除对那个</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">施为者</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">主体（</span>agent<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的实执，去触及</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">标签所依</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的那个基础显现。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
15/4/13 12:56:15 AM: John Tan: U c through reification of that agent and get in
touch with the base manifestation where the label rely upon<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>127<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
15/4/13 12:57:02 AM: John Tan: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">所以</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">声音</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">才是我们指称</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">意识</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">之所在。</span><br />
15/4/13 12:57:36 AM: John Tan: ‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">没有</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">任何脱离于那的意识。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
15/4/13 12:57:02 AM: John Tan: So sound is the actual consciousness is
referring to<br />
15/4/13 12:57:36 AM: John Tan: There is no consciousness other than that<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>128<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
15/4/13 1:01:13 AM: John Tan: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当他们看透了实执，现象会具有不同的意义。</span><br />
15/4/13 1:02:04 AM: John Tan: ‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">视一切皆是觉知</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，并不等同于</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一心（</span>one mind<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
15/4/13 1:02:52 AM: John Tan: ‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">把一切看成同一个不变心</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">才是问题所在。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
15/4/13 1:01:13 AM: John Tan: When they see through reification, then phenomena
has a different meaning<br />
15/4/13 1:02:04 AM: John Tan: Seeing everything as awareness is not one mind<br />
15/4/13 1:02:52 AM: John Tan: Seeing everything as the same unchanging mind is
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>129<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
15/4/13 1:04:09 AM: John Tan: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当你看透</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">实执</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，你会发现</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">觉知（</span>awareness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不过是指向这些显现的一个标签。</span><br />
15/4/13 1:04:32 AM: John Tan: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">所以说那样讲也没问题。</span><br />
15/4/13 1:05:24 AM: John Tan: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">只有当我们把</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">觉知</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当成真正实有时，才会产生迷惑，因为并不存在那样的东西。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
15/4/13 1:04:09 AM: John Tan: When u c through reification, u realized
"awareness" is just a label point to these manifestations<br />
15/4/13 1:04:32 AM: John Tan: So there is nothing wrong saying that<br />
15/4/13 1:05:24 AM: John Tan: Only when we treat awareness to b of true
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>130<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
15/4/13 1:11:14 AM: Soh Wei Yu: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我明白</span>……”<br />
15/4/13 1:11:36 AM: John Tan: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在聆听时，只有</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">声音</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
15/4/13 1:11:57 AM: John Tan: ‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">聆听</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">意味着</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">声</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">之显现。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
15/4/13 1:11:14 AM: Soh Wei Yu: I see..<br />
15/4/13 1:11:36 AM: John Tan: In hearing, there is only sound<br />
15/4/13 1:11:57 AM: John Tan: Hearing implies the presence of sound<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>131<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/5/13 9:39:15 PM: John Tan: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一心（</span>one
mind<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）是不同的。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/5/13 9:39:15 PM: John Tan: One mind is different<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>132<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/5/13 9:40:04 PM: John Tan: “‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一心</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，如我告诉你的，是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">见证者</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">消失了，却融入一个至上的</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">觉知（</span>Awareness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">之中。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/5/13 9:40:04 PM: John Tan: One mind as I told u is the witness is gone but
subsume into an overarching Awareness<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>133<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/5/13 9:40:31 PM: Soh Wei Yu: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在你的七个阶段中，这算是一个独立的阶段吗？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/5/13 9:40:31 PM: Soh Wei Yu: Is there a distinct phase of one mind in your
seven stages?<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>134<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/5/13 9:40:48 PM: John Tan: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">第四阶段。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/5/13 9:40:48 PM: John Tan: Phase 4<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>135<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/5/13 9:41:23 PM: Soh Wei Yu: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">可你说过第四阶段你已证悟无我，并体验</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无心（</span>no mind<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">了？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/5/13 9:41:23 PM: Soh Wei Yu: But u said phase 4 u already realised anatta
and experience no mind?<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">续上条消息，继续完整翻译，不做删减</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>136<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/5/13 9:41:51 PM: Soh Wei Yu:<br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">所以，这意味着洞见已经生起，但仍然有回到</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一心</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的倾向？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/5/13 9:41:51 PM: Soh Wei Yu: So does that mean the insight already arise by
tendency to sink back to one mind is still there<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>137<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/5/13 9:42:03 PM: Soh Wei Yu:<br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但是</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/5/13 9:42:03 PM: Soh Wei Yu: But<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>138<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/5/13 9:42:17 PM: John Tan:<br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">所有这些灰色地带都被放在第四阶段的洞见上，因为那时的知见还不完全清晰。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/5/13 9:42:17 PM: John Tan: All such gray area is put onto phase 4 insight
when view isn't completely clear<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>139<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/5/13 9:42:44 PM: John Tan:<br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这种</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">灰度</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">没法详加描述。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/5/13 9:42:44 PM: John Tan: There is no way to describe the grey scale<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>140<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/5/13 9:43:24 PM: John Tan:<br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">即便是在无我（</span>anatta<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）阶段，也还有许多不同层次的精微程度。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/5/13 9:43:24 PM: John Tan: Even in anatta there r so many different degree
of refinements<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>141<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/5/13 9:43:34 PM: Soh Wei Yu:<br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我明白。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/5/13 9:43:34 PM: Soh Wei Yu: I see<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>142<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/5/13 9:43:59 PM: John Tan:<br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但其实谈这些没多大实用价值。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/5/13 9:43:59 PM: John Tan: But it is not practical to talk abt all<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>143<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/5/13 9:44:44 PM: Soh Wei Yu:<br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">哦，你的意思是没法描述吗？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/5/13 9:44:44 PM: Soh Wei Yu: Oic.. U mean not describable<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>144<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/5/13 9:45:32 PM: John Tan:<br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不，不是说不能描述，而是没有什么实际意义去描述。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就好比</span>‘AF’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，它只是一种偏颇：它只看那种纯粹肉身血肉的体验</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">有人会详细去谈，有人不会。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/5/13 9:45:32 PM: John Tan: No...not that it is not describable but not
practical to describe<br />
14/5/13 9:46:48 PM: John Tan: Like AF is part of the deviation looking into
purely physical flesh and blood of pure experience ... Some went into details
some does not<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>145<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/5/13 9:47:51 PM: Soh Wei Yu:<br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你说</span>‘went
into details’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是什么意思？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/5/13 9:47:51 PM: Soh Wei Yu: What do u mean by went into details<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>146<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/5/13 9:48:54 PM: John Tan:<br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就像</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我（</span>I AM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，你经历了所有那些过程，但我并没有把它们划分成不同阶段。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/5/13 9:48:54 PM: John Tan: It is like I AM, there r all those experiences u
undergone but I do not say they r diff phases<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">续上条消息，继续完整翻译，不做删减</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（以下为</span> 2013 <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年</span> 4 <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">月</span> 14 <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">日的对话内容）</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>147<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/4/13 7:35:01 PM: John Tan:<br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当你说</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">天气</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，天气真的存在吗？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/4/13 7:35:01 PM: John Tan: When u say "weather", does weather
exist?<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>148<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/4/13 7:35:20 PM: Soh Wei Yu:<br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">并不存在。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/4/13 7:35:20 PM: Soh Wei Yu: No<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>149<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/4/13 7:35:42 PM: Soh Wei Yu:<br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">它是一个约定俗成的假名，加在一个无缝的活动之上。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/4/13 7:35:42 PM: Soh Wei Yu: It's a convention imputed on a seamless
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>150<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/4/13 7:35:54 PM: Soh Wei Yu:<br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">谈到</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">存在</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">或</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不存在</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，其实并不适用。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/4/13 7:35:54 PM: Soh Wei Yu: Existence and non existence don't apply<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>151<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/4/13 7:36:02 PM: John Tan:<br />
“‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那这个标签背后的依据是什么？</span>’”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/4/13 7:36:02 PM: John Tan: What is the basis where this label rely on<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>152<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/4/13 7:36:16 PM: Soh Wei Yu:<br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">雨、云、风等等。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/4/13 7:36:16 PM: Soh Wei Yu: Rain clouds wind etc<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>153<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/4/13 7:36:25 PM: John Tan:<br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">别跟我讲</span>‘prasanga’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（中观应成派推论）。</span><br />
14/4/13 7:36:36 PM: John Tan: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">直接看。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/4/13 7:36:25 PM: John Tan: Don't talk prasanga<br />
14/4/13 7:36:36 PM: John Tan: Directly see<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>154<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/4/13 7:38:11 PM: John Tan:<br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">雨也是一个标签。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/4/13 7:38:11 PM: John Tan: Rain too is a label<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>155<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/4/13 7:39:10 PM: John Tan:<br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但在直接体验中，这并没有问题；可一旦深究，你就会发现人们如何因语言而产生对实体的误执。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/4/13 7:39:10 PM: John Tan: But in direct experience, there is no issue but
when probed, u realized how one is confused abt the reification from language<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>156<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/4/13 7:39:52 PM: John Tan:<br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">然后，就有了生</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">死、创造</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">消亡之类的概念，</span><br />
14/4/13 7:40:06 PM: John Tan: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">以及一大堆执着都由此而生。</span><br />
14/4/13 7:40:25 PM: John Tan: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但这并不意味着毫无依据</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">懂吗？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/4/13 7:39:52 PM: John Tan: And from there life/death/creation/cessation
arise<br />
14/4/13 7:40:06 PM: John Tan: And whole lots of attachment<br />
14/4/13 7:40:25 PM: John Tan: But it does not mean there is no basis...get it?<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>157<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/4/13 7:40:45 PM: Soh Wei Yu:<br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那个依据就是经验本身，对吗？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/4/13 7:40:45 PM: Soh Wei Yu: The basis is just the experience right<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>158<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/4/13 7:41:15 PM: John Tan:<br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">对，就是如此，简简单单。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/4/13 7:41:15 PM: John Tan: Yes which is plain and simple<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>159<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/4/13 7:41:50 PM: John Tan:<br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当我们说</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">天气好</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，就去感受阳光、风、雨</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/4/13 7:41:50 PM: John Tan: When we say the weather is windy<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>160<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/4/13 7:42:04 PM: John Tan:<br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">感觉那风、那吹拂</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/4/13 7:42:04 PM: John Tan: Feel the wind, the blowing...<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>161<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/4/13 7:43:04 PM: John Tan:<br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">可一旦我们审视语言，把</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">动词</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">错认为</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">名词</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，问题就大了。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/4/13 7:43:04 PM: John Tan: But when we look at language and mistaken verb
for nouns there r big issues<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>162<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/4/13 7:43:22 PM: John Tan:<br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">因此，在我们讨论这事那事之前，</span><br />
14/4/13 7:43:40 PM: John Tan: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">先要弄清</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">什么是意识（</span>consciousness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">、</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">什么是觉知（</span>awareness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
14/4/13 7:43:45 PM: John Tan: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白吗？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/4/13 7:43:22 PM: John Tan: So before we talk abt this and that<br />
14/4/13 7:43:40 PM: John Tan: Understand what consciousness is and awareness is<br />
14/4/13 7:43:45 PM: John Tan: Get it?<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">续上条消息，继续完整翻译，不做删减</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>163<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/4/13 7:44:40 PM: John Tan:<br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当我们说</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">天气</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，去感受阳光、风、雨。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/4/13 7:44:40 PM: John Tan: When we say weather, feel the sunshine, the wind,
the rain<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>164<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/4/13 7:44:58 PM: John Tan:<br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你并不会去</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">寻找天气</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/4/13 7:44:58 PM: John Tan: U do not search for weather<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>165<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/4/13 7:45:04 PM: John Tan:<br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白吗？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/4/13 7:45:04 PM: John Tan: Get it?<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>166<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
14/4/13 7:45:57 PM: John Tan:<br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">同理，当我们说</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">觉知（</span>awareness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，就要去看风景、声音、触觉、气味和念头。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
14/4/13 7:45:57 PM: John Tan: Similarly, when we say awareness, look into
scenery, sound, tactile sensations, scents and thoughts<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（以下是在</span> 2010
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年初、我尚未证悟无我之前的对话）</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
In early 2010, before I realised anatta:<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>167<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(11:12 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你现在用的是第四阶段的理解，去解释第六阶段。</span><br />
(11:12 PM) AEN: ‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……’”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:12 PM) Thusness: u r using stage 4 understanding to explain 6<br />
(11:12 PM) AEN: oic<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>168<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(11:13 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我对</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">知见</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">见解</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不太感兴趣，我更在意让那能让你理解正知见的洞见</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">证悟。</span><br />
(11:14 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">第四阶段的</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无二</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就是那个洞见。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">到第五阶段，那个观察者就消失了。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(11:15 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不只是没有</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">内</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">或</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">外</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，不是因为它是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无二</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，而是根本没有那个观察者。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这就是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无我</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
(11:15 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那才是你必须生起的</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">洞见</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，就像</span> dharma dan <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">说的那样</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:13 PM) Thusness: i am not interested in views<br />
only the insight that allows u to understand the right view<br />
(11:14 PM) Thusness: that is in phase 4, 'non-dual' is the insight<br />
in phase 5, that observer is gone<br />
(11:15 PM) Thusness: there is not only no 'in' here or out 'there' not because
it is non-dual, but because there is no such observer at all.<br />
anatta<br />
(11:15 PM) Thusness: that is the 'insight' that must arise<br />
(11:15 PM) AEN: icic..<br />
(11:15 PM) Thusness: just like what dharma dan said<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>169<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(11:23 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你并不否认主观或客观现实；</span><br />
(11:24 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">它们不过是权宜和约定俗成的</span>(<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">假名</span>)<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">罢了。</span><br />
(11:24 PM) AEN: ‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……’”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:23 PM) Thusness: u do not deny subjective or object reality<br />
(11:24 PM) Thusness: they are only provisional and conventional<br />
(11:24 PM) AEN: oic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">续上条消息，继续完整翻译，不做删减</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>170<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(11:25 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但是当陷于二元和本质化的心智听到</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无二</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这个词时，它们会把二者想象成</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">二变成一</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，或者</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你变成了我</span>’……<br />
(11:25 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">因为一个陷于那种心态的人，尽管体验过，却依旧会这样想。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:25 PM) Thusness: but when the dualistic and inherent hears the term
'non-dual', they either visualize the 2 becoming one or 'you have become me'...<br />
(11:25 PM) Thusness: because this is how a mind that is trapped would think
despite the experience<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>171<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(11:26 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:26 PM) AEN: icic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>172<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(11:27 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">对于超越四边的法，其实用语言并不能充分表达；</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">所以最重要的是洞见本身。</span><br />
(11:27 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">要看一个人如何表达这些洞见。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:27 PM) Thusness: for what that is beyond the four extremes cannot be
expressed adequately using language<br />
so what that is important is the insights<br />
(11:27 PM) Thusness: and see how one expresses these insights<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>173<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(11:27 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:27 PM) AEN: oic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>174<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(11:28 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">像</span> Joan
Tollifson <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就是，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那是一种直接的体验，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">其中没有任何</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">知见</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">可言。</span><br />
(11:28 PM) AEN: ‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……’”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:28 PM) Thusness: like joan tollifson<br />
it is the direct experience<br />
there is no view about it<br />
(11:28 PM) AEN: icic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>175<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(11:30 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也就是说，一个修行者只会直接体验硬、软、意向、景象、声音</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">没有自我；</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">只会直接体验行动（</span>action<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(11:31 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但在世俗上，你仍然是你，我仍然是我。</span><br />
(11:31 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">并不存在所谓</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你就是我</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白吗？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(11:32 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">或者说，并没有一个</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">觉知</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">声音</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">或者说</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一切只是这个觉知</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">根本没有这种概念。</span><br />
(11:32 PM) AEN: ‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……’”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:30 PM) Thusness: means a practitioner will only experience hardness,
softness, intentions, scenery, sound<br />
no self<br />
(11:30 PM) Thusness: action<br />
directly<br />
(11:31 PM) Thusness: but conventionally, u r still u, i am still me<br />
(11:31 PM) Thusness: there is no such thing as u r me<br />
get it?<br />
(11:32 PM) Thusness: or there is an awareness that is sound<br />
or all is just this awareness<br />
there is no such concept<br />
(11:32 PM) AEN: oic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>176<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(11:33 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那里只有声音、影像、思维。</span><br />
(11:33 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你所谓的</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">觉知</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就是这些。</span><br />
(11:34 PM) AEN: ‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……’<br />
(11:34 PM) AEN: ‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是的，我在</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><a href="http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?showtopic=13153&amp;st=120" target="_new">http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?showtopic=13153&amp;st=120#</a>
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">里提到了</span>……’”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:33 PM) Thusness: there is sound, sight, thoughts<br />
(11:33 PM) Thusness: and what u call awareness are just that<br />
(11:34 PM) AEN: icic..<br />
(11:34 PM) AEN: ya i talked about it in <a href="http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?showtopic=13153&amp;st=120" target="_new">http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?showtopic=13153&amp;st=120#</a><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">续上条消息，继续完整翻译，不做删减</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>177<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(11:35 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是啊，可是你的心里想的是某种</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">觉知</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，或者说</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一切都是这个觉知</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span>”<br />
(11:35 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:35 PM) Thusness: yeah but ur mind is thinking some awareness<br />
or all are just this awareness<br />
(11:35 PM) AEN: oic<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>178<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(11:36 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这是一种二元的理解方式</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">尽管体验是无二的</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这就是第四阶段。</span><br />
(11:36 PM) AEN: ‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">抱歉，我指的是第</span>126
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<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">好吧，明白。</span>’”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:36 PM) Thusness: this is a dualistic way of understanding<br />
though experience is non-dual<br />
that is phase 4<br />
(11:36 PM) AEN: sorry i mean post #126<br />
oic<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>179<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(11:36 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那就好比把</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">冬天</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当作</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">春天</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，又把</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">春天</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当作</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">秋天</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">；</span><br />
(11:36 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也像把</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">火</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">说成</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">变成了灰烬</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span>”<br />
(11:36 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:36 PM) Thusness: that is treating winter as spring and spring as autumn<br />
(11:36 PM) Thusness: that is treating fire as becoming ashes<br />
(11:36 PM) AEN: icic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>180<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(11:37 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">懂吗？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">虽然你说</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">声音就是觉知</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，可你还是把它当作那样一个东西。</span><br />
(11:37 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就像冬天变成春天，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">或者冬天就是春天那样。</span><br />
(11:38 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白吗？</span>”<br />
(11:38 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:37 PM) Thusness: get it?<br />
although u said that sound is awareness, u r still treating it as that.<br />
(11:37 PM) Thusness: as if winter becomes spring<br />
or winter is spring<br />
(11:38 PM) Thusness: get it?<br />
(11:38 PM) AEN: oic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>181<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(11:38 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这是不一样的。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">举例来说，</span>dharma
dan <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">说，</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">只有种种触觉、念头</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那些五蕴。不管是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">超级觉知</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">还是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">觉知</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，都和</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">只有感受、念头</span>……’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不同。如果只是说</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">感受就是觉知</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">、</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">念头就是觉知</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，就好像</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">觉知变成了那些念头</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:38 PM) Thusness: it is different<br />
for example dharma dan said there is just sensations, thoughts...the
aggregates. whether super awareness or awareness. it is different from saying
sensation is awareness, thoughts is awareness as if awareness has become
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（接下来是</span>
“Update, 16/7/2021” <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的提及，及一些相关内容。）</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
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Update, 16/7/2021<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Also relevant:<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>182<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
Session Start: Wednesday, 17 December, 2008<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(9:49 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">自我感（</span>sense of self<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）与存在感（</span>sense
of beingness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）是不同的。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
Session Start: Wednesday, 17 December, 2008<br />
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(9:49 PM) Thusness: Sense of self and sense of beingness is different<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">续上条消息，继续完整翻译，不做删减</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>183<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(9:51 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我们本性的智慧（</span>Wisdom
of our nature<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）包含了能够区分这两者（自我感与存在感）的能力。</span>”<br />
(9:51 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……”<br />
(9:51 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是的，我读过他写的东西。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(9:51 PM) Thusness: Wisdom of our nature includes the ability to know the
difference<br />
(9:51 PM) AEN: oic..<br />
(9:51 PM) Thusness: yes i read what he wrote.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>184<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(9:52 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是</span> Longchen
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">吗？我明白</span>……”<br />
(9:52 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是的，今天早上看了。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(9:52 PM) AEN: longchen? ic..<br />
(9:52 PM) Thusness: yes in the morning.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>185<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(9:53 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">哦</span>……”<br />
(9:54 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">他写的另一篇关于</span>‘Great
Freedom’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的文章也不错。</span>”<br />
(9:54 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(9:53 PM) AEN: oic..<br />
(9:54 PM) Thusness: the other article about great freedom is also not bad.<br />
(9:54 PM) AEN: icic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>186<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(9:57 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">对了，</span>‘Now’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（当下）和</span>‘spontaneous arising<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（自发生起）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">有何区别？保持在</span>‘Now’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">里并不代表没有自我感，是吗？而且似乎还要用力去达成或维持这个状态？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(9:57 PM) AEN: btw wats the difference between 'now' and spontaneous arising..
to remain in 'now' doesnt mean there's no sense of self isit? and there's still
the sense of effort to achieve or sustain the state<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>187<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:00 PM) Thusness: “‘Now<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（当下）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">只不过是一个概念，他们真正想要表达的，是让人直接体验到一种</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">存在</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在感（</span>sense of presence<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
(10:00 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">而</span>‘spontaneous
arising<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（自发生起）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就不同了。它意味着</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无造作（</span>effortlessness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:00 PM) Thusness: 'Now' is a concept for what they really want to convey is
a direct experience of a sense of presence.<br />
(10:00 PM) Thusness: spontaneous arising is different. It relates to
'effortlessness'.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>188<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:02 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">它关乎对</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">解脱是何</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的直接体验。</span>”<br />
(10:02 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:02 PM) Thusness: it relates to the direct experience of what liberation is.<br />
(10:02 PM) AEN: oic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>189<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:07 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你说</span> Travis <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的帖子还停留在</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我（</span>I AM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是因为他还无法区分</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">自我感</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">与</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">存在感</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">吗？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:07 PM) AEN: u said travis post is still 'i am'... is cos he still cant
differentiate sense of self and beingness?<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>190<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:07 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">他们想告诉读者：不要迷失在各种故事情节里，以至于错过直接体验的</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在（</span>Presence<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
(10:07 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这只是第一步。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:07 PM) Thusness: what they want to bring across to the readers is to tell
them not to lost themselves in stories so that they missed the direct
experience of 'Presence'.<br />
(10:07 PM) Thusness: This is just the first step.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>191<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:08 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:08 PM) AEN: icic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>192<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:09 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">他们之所以强调</span>‘Now’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（当下），并没有别的目的，只是为了让人别错过当下的</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在（</span>Presence<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
(10:09 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">而</span> Longchen
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">说的东西，其实是个更为重要的真相。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:09 PM) Thusness: Stressing the importance of 'Now' has no other purpose
other than that.<br />
(10:09 PM) Thusness: What longchen said is a more important truth.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>193<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:09 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不过</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">自发显现（</span>spontaneous manifestation<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">只有在洞见之后才能发生吗？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:09 PM) AEN: oic..<br />
but spontaneous manifestation can only occur after insight rite?<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>194<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:10 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不完全是。</span><br />
(10:10 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">它一直都在发生，</span><br />
(10:11 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">只不过我们还没认出它来而已。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:10 PM) Thusness: not exactly<br />
(10:10 PM) Thusness: it always occur<br />
(10:11 PM) Thusness: it is just that it is not realised<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>195<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:11 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:11 PM) AEN: icic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>196<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:11 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">现在，当</span>‘Great
Freedom’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那篇文章说</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">虚空就是觉知，生起的一切也就是觉知</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，你会如何理解？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:11 PM) Thusness: now when the article from 'Great Freedom' said, the space
is Awareness and what that arise is also Awareness. How do u understand it?<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>197<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:13 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那是无二，对吗？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:13 PM) AEN: thats non duality rite?<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>198<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:14 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">对我来说，那是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无二</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，但并不是佛教所说的那种理解。所以它并不具有我希望你能达到的那种洞见。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:14 PM) Thusness: To me it is non-dual but not buddhism sort of
understanding.<br />
(10:14 PM) Thusness: Therefore it does not the sort of insight I hope u can
achieve.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>199<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:15 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那二者之间差在哪里？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:15 PM) AEN: oic..<br />
(10:15 PM) AEN: wats the difference<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">续上条消息，继续完整翻译，不做删减</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>200<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:16 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是啊，那差别是什么？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:16 PM) Thusness: Yes what is the difference?<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>201<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:16 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">他们还是把</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">觉知（</span>awareness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当作一个不变的背景吗？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:16 PM) AEN: they still treat awareness as an unchanging background?<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>202<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:16 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就这个案例而言，并非真的那样。</span><br />
(10:17 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当然，他们也视一切生起之物都为</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">觉知</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
(10:17 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">他们的问题在于</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">清晰度的深度</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:16 PM) Thusness: not actually that for this case<br />
(10:17 PM) Thusness: obviously they also treat whatever arise as Awareness.<br />
(10:17 PM) Thusness: They problem is in the depth of clarity.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>203<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:18 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这里有好几个障碍点。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">首先，是对</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">纯粹存在感（</span>Presence<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的体验，也就是在几乎没有念头时的一种状态。</span><br />
(10:19 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">近乎无思的状态。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">然后还有对</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无二（</span>non-duality<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的体验。</span><br />
(10:19 PM) AEN: ‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……’<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(10:20 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那是一种类似</span> Ken Wilber <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的体验；</span><br />
(10:20 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">他们没法突破</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">二元的束缚（</span>the bond of dualism<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:18 PM) Thusness: There are several hurdles here.<br />
(10:18 PM) Thusness: First is the experience of a pure sense of existence
(Presence) from a state free from 'thoughts'<br />
(10:19 PM) Thusness: an almost thoughtless state<br />
(10:19 PM) Thusness: then there is also the experience of non-duality<br />
(10:19 PM) AEN: icic..<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(10:20 PM) Thusness: that is a state similar to what Ken
Wilber experienced<br />
(10:20 PM) Thusness: There is inability to break-through the 'bond' of dualism.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal">[<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在此翻译完毕，如有需要请在后续消息中继续。</span>]<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">续上条消息，继续完整翻译，不做删减</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>204<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:22 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那种持续回溯自我的倾向阻碍了深层的</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">见</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，尽管他们确实有</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无二</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">体验。</span><br />
(10:22 PM) AEN: ‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……<br />
(10:22 PM) AEN: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你是指回溯到一个自我或背景吗？</span>’”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:22 PM) Thusness: The perpetual referencing back prevents the depth of 'seeing'
despite the non-dual experience.<br />
(10:22 PM) AEN: oic..<br />
(10:22 PM) AEN: referencing back to a self or background?<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>205<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:23 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">倒不是说他们想要那个背景，而是他们的二元倾向导致这样。</span><br />
(10:24 PM) AEN: ‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">顺便问一下，自我探究（</span>self
inquiry<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）可能会导致一种无念头的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">存在感</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">体验，对吗？昨天我做自我探究，结果几乎没有念头，就只剩一种存在感，然后我就进入了非常喜悦的状态，可能持续了一两分钟</span>……<br />
(10:24 PM) AEN: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">噢</span>……’”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:23 PM) Thusness: it is not that he wants the background, it is because the
dualistic tendency<br />
(10:24 PM) AEN: btw self inquiry can lead to a thoughtless state of presence
rite? yesterday was practicing self inquiry until suddenly its like i have
almost no thought already... just a sense of presence... then suddenly i enter
into a v blissful state for i tink 1 or 2 minute<br />
(10:24 PM) AEN: oic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>206<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:24 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是的。</span><br />
(10:26 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但这种纯粹存在感（</span>pure
sense of existence<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）不能让你</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">忽略（不理睬）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">看到色、声、味及其他所生现象皆是临在（</span>Presence<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。</span><br />
(10:26 PM) AEN: ‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……’<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(10:27 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">如果你让它遮蔽你，那么你就没法完整体验无我。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">接下来自然而然的发展是，你会短暂见到像</span>
Ken Wilber <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那样的体验</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你需要清晰地体验到那。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:24 PM) Thusness: yes<br />
(10:26 PM) Thusness: this pure sense of existence cannot 'blind' us from seeing
sight, sound, taste and other arising phenomenon as Presence<br />
(10:26 PM) AEN: icic..<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(10:27 PM) Thusness: once u let that blind u, u can't
experience anatta completely<br />
the next natural development is to have the glimpse of what Ken Wilber
experiences... u need vivid experience of that<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">续上条消息，继续完整翻译，不做删减</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>207<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:27 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我当时并没有意识到有色、声或味之类的东西</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">感觉是一片空，但仍存在临在（</span>presence<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。</span><br />
(10:28 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:27 PM) AEN: i didnt remember experience sight or sound or taste... instead
it feels like void... but theres presence<br />
(10:28 PM) AEN: icic<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>208<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:28 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">然后，只要你试图把这两种体验协调起来时，就会产生困惑。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">问题在于我们的二元认知方式，虽然有这些体验，但仍然不能正确理解。</span><br />
(10:29 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">直到我们对无我有了透彻见解，般若智（</span>prajna
insight<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）才会生起。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:28 PM) Thusness: then confusion steps in whenever u try to make sense out
of these 2 experiences<br />
the problem is with our dualistic mode of understanding things<br />
(10:28 PM) Thusness: despite the experiences, we still cannot understand it
correctly<br />
(10:29 PM) Thusness: until we become clear of anatta then prajna insight arises<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>209<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:30 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一旦我们接受无我和缘起（</span>DO<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）是对这些体验的正确诠释，我们就会经历得更清晰，也需要更少努力。</span><br />
(10:31 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当我们明晰地看到五蕴本已无二，我们就不会再维系那</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">纯粹存在感</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的状态，</span><br />
(10:31 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那去维系某种特定状态的努力也就消失。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:30 PM) Thusness: Once we accept anatta and DO as the right understanding of
these experiences, we began to experience clearer and less effort is needed<br />
(10:31 PM) Thusness: Once we clearly see that the 5 aggregates are already
non-dual, we no more preserve that 'state' of pure existence<br />
(10:31 PM) Thusness: the 'effort' to sustain a particular state disappear<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>210<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:32 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:32 PM) AEN: oic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>211<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:32 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但即便洞见生起，也未必涵盖一切，比如在遇到逆境时，</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无二</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">体验可能还是会消失，就像</span> Longchen <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那样。</span><br />
(10:33 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在梦境中也一样。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:32 PM) Thusness: yet that is not the exhaustive even insight arises<br />
(10:32 PM) AEN: huh?<br />
(10:33 PM) Thusness: like when we faced adverse situations, non-dual is gone as
in the case of longchen.<br />
(10:33 PM) Thusness: when in dream states also<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>212<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:34 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是啊，</span>Longchen <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">说他只有在梦快结束时以及醒来时才体验到无二。</span><br />
(10:34 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">还没到那程度。</span>”<br />
(10:34 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">哦？你意思是他在梦中还没体验过无二？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:34 PM) AEN: oic.. ya longchen said he only experience non dual when he is
near the end of the dream, and in the waking state<br />
(10:34 PM) Thusness: not yet<br />
(10:34 PM) AEN: oic wat u mean<br />
(10:34 PM) AEN: he haven experience it in dream?<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">续上条消息，继续完整翻译，不做删减</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>213<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:37 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不只是这样</span>……<br />
(10:38 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我的意思是，只有当我们清楚地见到</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">没有中心、没有我</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，也就是从无我（</span>anatta<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）的视角，</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">自发显现（</span>spontaneous manifestation<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">才会被真正理解。</span><br />
(10:38 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也就是说，有念头，但并没有一个思维的施为者</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">主体（</span>thinker<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。</span><br />
(10:38 PM) AEN: ‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……’”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:37 PM) Thusness: not only that...<br />
(10:38 PM) Thusness: i mean spontaneous manifestation is only correctly
understood when we clearly see that there is no 'center', no 'self' from the
anatta perspective<br />
(10:38 PM) Thusness: that is, there is thoughts, no thinker<br />
(10:38 PM) AEN: oic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>214<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:39 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也就是说，始终只有</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">念头</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
(10:39 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">然后我们就能开始理解缘起（</span>DO<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。</span><br />
(10:39 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">始终只有</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">声音</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，没有听者。</span><br />
(10:40 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">以这样的方式理解自发生起，并以这种体验来理解缘起。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:39 PM) Thusness: means there is always only thoughts<br />
(10:39 PM) Thusness: then we can begin to understand DO.<br />
(10:39 PM) Thusness: always only Sound, no hearer<br />
(10:40 PM) Thusness: understand spontaneous arising this way and understand DO
from this experience.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>215<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:42 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">等到对这些体验有了绝对且毫不费力的清晰，当我们面对逆境时，那个无二体验也仍有可能失去。</span><br />
(10:42 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这就进入了修行层面。</span>”<br />
(10:42 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:42 PM) Thusness: after absolute and effortless clarity of these
experiences, when dealing with adverse situations, that non-dual experiences
can still be gone.<br />
(10:42 PM) Thusness: that is practice<br />
(10:42 PM) AEN: icic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>216<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:43 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">然后我们会更加深入地体会缘起，也更明白</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">束缚（</span>the bond<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的强大。</span><br />
(10:43 PM) AEN: ‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……’”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:43 PM) Thusness: then we will begin to realise DO in a deeper aspect<br />
(10:43 PM) Thusness: and the strength of the 'bond'<br />
(10:43 PM) AEN: oic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>217<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:44 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不过要先有纯粹存在感，然后无二体验。</span><br />
(10:44 PM) AEN: ‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……’”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:44 PM) Thusness: but first the pure sense of existence<br />
(10:44 PM) Thusness: then non-dual experience<br />
(10:44 PM) AEN: icic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>218<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:44 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">顺便问一下，你之前说</span>
Travis <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的体验还停留在</span>‘I
AM’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。那是因为他还分不清</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">存在感</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">和</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">自我感</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">吗？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:44 PM) AEN: btw earlier u said travis experience is still 'i am'.. isit
bcos he cant distinguish beingness from sense of self?<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">续上条消息，继续完整翻译，不做删减</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>219<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:45 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你必须继续练习</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">放下（</span>letting go<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:45 PM) Thusness: u must continue to practice letting go.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>220<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:45 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:45 PM) AEN: oic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>221<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:46 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">要了解</span> Travis
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的体验，你必须先经历过</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一体（</span>Oneness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的体验，</span><br />
(10:47 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也就是从体验中剥离</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">人格特质（</span>personality<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:46 PM) Thusness: to understand Travis experience, u must have the 'Oneness'
experience<br />
(10:47 PM) Thusness: stripping 'personality' from experiences<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>222<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:47 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:47 PM) AEN: icic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>223<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:48 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也就是说，你的</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无二</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不一定得显现，但在每一个经验当中，都要有那种</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">剥离人格特质</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的过程。</span><br />
(10:48 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这也是一个重要的体验。</span><br />
(10:48 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">然后稍加推演，就能得出那样的结论。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:48 PM) Thusness: that is, u non-dual need not arise, but that stripping of
'personality' from experiences must arise<br />
(10:48 PM) Thusness: it is also an important experience.<br />
(10:48 PM) Thusness: then with a lil extrapolation, u come out that sort of
conclusion.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>224<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:49 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">因为当</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">人格特质</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">从每一个当下经验中被剥离时，却仍然保留了一个</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">固有本质（</span>inherent essence<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）（自性见）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，</span><br />
(10:50 PM) Thusness: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这种对</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">固有本质</span>’ <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（自性见）的执著，使</span> Travis <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">去推论并得出那样的见解。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:49 PM) Thusness: because will 'personality' is being stripped off from
every moment of experience, an 'inherent essence' is not<br />
(10:50 PM) Thusness: that bond of 'inherent essence' causes Travis to
extrapolate and lead him to that understanding.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>225<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:51 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:51 PM) AEN: oic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>226<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:52 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是说，当</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">人格特质</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">从每一个当下经验中被剥离出来，但对</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">固有本质（</span>inherent essence<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）（自性见）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">部分并未被剥离。</span><br />
(10:52 PM) AEN: ‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……’”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:52 PM) Thusness: i mean 'because while' 'personality' is being stripped off
from every moment of experience, the aspect of 'inherent essence' is not<br />
(10:52 PM) AEN: icic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>227<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:53 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">对了，他有无二体验，对吗？</span>”<br />
(10:53 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是的。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">只是说，他还没生起无我的洞见（</span>the
insight of anatta<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:53 PM) AEN: btw he had nondual experience rite?<br />
(10:53 PM) Thusness: yes<br />
(10:53 PM) Thusness: just that the insight of anatta does not arise.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">续上条消息，继续完整翻译，不做删减</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>228<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:53 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……”<br />
(10:53 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我想让你体验的是无我（</span>anatta<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:53 PM) AEN: oic..<br />
(10:53 PM) Thusness: what i want u to experience is anatta<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>229<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:55 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:55 PM) AEN: icic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>230<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:57 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">现在，当你听到</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">声音</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">时，你会不会感觉那</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">声音</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">像是在外面？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:57 PM) Thusness: now when u hear 'sound', do u feel like the 'sound' out
there?<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>231<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(10:59 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是啊</span>……<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这跟身心的</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">束缚</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">有关，对吗？就好像有一种</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在这里面</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的感觉。</span><br />
(11:01 PM) AEN: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不过如果我只是专心去听，似乎就没那么明显了。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(10:59 PM) AEN: ya<br />
(11:00 PM) AEN: it's a bond to the body/mind rite? like a sense of being 'in
here'<br />
(11:01 PM) AEN: but if i just listen attentively it becomes less distinct i
tink<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>232<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(11:02 PM) Thusness is now Online<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:02 PM) Thusness is now Online<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>233<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(11:13 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你看到我刚才发的消息了吗？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:13 PM) AEN: u saw my msg?<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>234<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(11:16 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">没有。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:16 PM) Thusness: Nope<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>235<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(11:18 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">哦，我是说</span>……<br />
AEN <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">说：</span><br />
‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是啊，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我说那是对身心的束缚吧？像一种</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在这里面</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的感觉。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不过如果我只是专心去听，似乎就没那么明显了。</span>’”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:18 PM) AEN: oh i said<br />
(11:18 PM) AEN: AEN says:<br />
ya<br />
AEN says:<br />
it's a bond to the body/mind rite? like a sense of being 'in here'<br />
AEN says:<br />
but if i just listen attentively it becomes less distinct i tink<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>236<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(11:21 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">很少有人会想到，这主要是由于我们的二元感知模式才让我们产生了这种感觉。</span><br />
(11:21 PM) AEN: ‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是这种二元模式造成什么？</span>’”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:21 PM) Thusness: seldom does it occur to us that it is due to our dualistic
mode of perception as the main cause<br />
(11:21 PM) AEN: as the main cause of?<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>[</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">续上条消息，继续完整翻译，不做删减</span>]</b><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>237<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(11:22 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">正是这种方式让我们产生了那种感受。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:22 PM) Thusness: of making us feel so<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>238<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(11:23 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">然而，还有其他条件会让我们的体验更加复杂。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:23 PM) Thusness: However there r other conditions that complicate our
experience<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>239<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(11:24 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白</span>……<br />
(11:24 PM) AEN: <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">还有哪些其他条件？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:24 PM) AEN: oic..<br />
(11:24 PM) AEN: what other conditions<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>240<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(11:24 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那就是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">身体</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">以及</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">外在条件</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:24 PM) Thusness: That is the 'body' and the 'external conditions'<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>241<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(11:26 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白明白</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:26 PM) AEN: icic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>242<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(11:31 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你现在也读了很多经教，你自己也有讲解，也有经文可参考，为什么还会有这种感觉？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:31 PM) Thusness: Now u have read, taught and the sutra to refer to, how is
it that u still feel so?<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>243<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(11:32 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你对佛陀如此有信心，为什么却无法直接体会到无我的真谛？</span>”<br />
(11:32 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是因为束缚或者说二元感知模式吗？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:32 PM) Thusness: U have so much faith in Buddha, why is it that u r unable
to directly feel the truth of anatta?<br />
(11:32 PM) AEN: due to bond or the dualistic mode of perception?<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>244<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(11:35 PM) Thusness: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">所以你要知道这个束缚的微妙与力量远大于你所有的信心与修行总和。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:35 PM) Thusness: therefore know the subtlety and strength of this bond. It
is much stronger then the sum of all ur faith and practices<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（第</span>245<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段）</span><br />
(11:38 PM) AEN: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我明白了</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
(11:38 PM) AEN: oic..<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">脚注</span>/</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">附注：</span></b><br />
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>ChatGPT</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span><o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">映射自然状态与超个人支点</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">肯</span>·<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯关于垂直发展模型的描述，概述了一系列</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">支点</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，在这些支点上，我们对自我的感知逐渐溶解其平常的、自我束缚的形态，并开放至更具包容性、无二的觉知模式。许多内观传统指出，我们的三种自然意识状态</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">清醒、梦境与深睡</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">提供了一种体验性镜像，映射着这些发展阶段。在威尔伯的框架中，平常的清醒状态（常伴有分离感）逐渐让位于超个人体验，这些体验分别呼应了梦境状态（充满细微象征意义）和无梦深睡状态（以无形、根源觉知为特征）。最终，无二的根基（支点</span>10<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）被揭示为所有状态之下不变的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">如是</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>Suchness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">以下，我们详细介绍每个支点，同时列出摘自威尔伯著作的体验性引述以及</span>
Diperna <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">文章中的综合洞见。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">支点</span> 7<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：心灵（自然神秘体验者）层面</span> —— <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">清醒状态</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在平常清醒状态中，我们通常体验到自己与周围世界的区分。然而，正如威尔伯所解释，在支点</span>
7 <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">上，清醒自我可以经历其分离自我感的暂时溶解。例如，他在《万物简史》中生动描述了这种融合：</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“KW<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：在心灵层面，一个人可能会暂时溶解那分离自我感（即自我或半人马式的自我），并与整个粗糙或感觉运动的世界找到一种同一性</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这就是所谓的自然神秘体验者。你正在进行一次愉快的自然漫步，觉知中放松而广阔，你望向一座美丽的山，砰！</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">突然间没有观看者，只有那座山</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">而你就是那座山。你不在这里望着外面的山。只有那座山存在，而且它似乎自见，或者你仿佛从内而外在看它。那座山比你的皮肤还要贴近你。换句话说，主体与客体之间，再也没有分离，你与外面整个自然界之间也没有分离。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">—— <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯，肯。《万物简史》（第</span>303–304<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">页）。</span>Shambhala <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">出版社。</span>Kindle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">版。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">AWAKENINGTOREALITY.COM<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在这里，即使在清醒时，个体通常的分离感也融解了；那座山不仅仅是被观察，而是被体验为你存在的根基。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"Mapping the Natural States onto Transpersonal Fulcrums<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Ken Wilber’s model of vertical development outlines a series
of “fulcrums” where our sense of self gradually dissolves its ordinary, ego<span style="font-family: &quot;Cambria Math&quot;,serif; mso-bidi-font-family: &quot;Cambria Math&quot;;">‐</span>bound
form and opens to more inclusive, nondual modes of awareness. Many
contemplative traditions note that our three natural states of consciousness—waking, dreaming, and deep sleep—offer a
kind of experiential mirror for these developmental stages. In Wilber’s framework, the ordinary waking state (often troubled by a
sense of separation) gives way to transpersonal experiences that, respectively,
echo the qualities of dreaming (rich with subtle symbolism) and dreamless deep
sleep (characterized by formless, causal awareness). Ultimately, the nondual
ground (fulcrum 10) is revealed as the unchanging Suchness underlying all
states.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Below, we detail each fulcrum along with experiential
quotations drawn from Wilber’s texts and integrative insights from Diperna’s
article.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Fulcrum 7: The Psychic (Nature Mystic) Level – Waking State
In the ordinary waking state we usually experience ourselves as distinct from
the world around us. Yet at fulcrum 7, Wilber explains, the waking self can
undergo a temporary dissolution of its separate-self sense. For example, he
vividly describes this fusion in A Brief History of Everything:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“KW: At the psychic level, a person might temporarily
dissolve the separate-self sense (the ego or centaur) and find an identity with
the entire gross or sensorimotor world—so-called nature mysticism. You’re on a
nice nature walk, relaxed and expansive in your awareness, and you look at a
beautiful mountain, and wham!—suddenly there is no looker, just the
mountain—and you are the mountain. You are not in here looking at the mountain
out there. There is just the mountain, and it seems to see itself, or you seem
to be seeing it from within. The mountain is closer to you than your own skin.
By any other terms, there is no separation between subject and object, between
you and the entire natural world “out there.” Inside and outside—they don’t
have any meaning anymore. You can still tell perfectly well where your body
stops and the environment begins—this is not psychotic dualism or a
“resurrection in mature form” of psychotic dualism. It is your own higher Self
at this stage—fulcrum-7—which can be called the Eco-Noetic Self; some call it
the Over-Soul or the World Soul. This is the fusion phase of fulcrum-7. You are
a “nature mystic.”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">— Wilber, Ken. A Brief History of Everything (pp. 303–304).
Shambhala. Kindle Edition.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">AWAKENINGTOREALITY.COM<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Here, even while awake, the individual’s usual sense of
separation melts away; the mountain is not merely observed, it is experienced
as one’s being.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">支点</span> 8</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：细微层面（神性神秘体验者）</span> —— </b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">梦境状态</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">随着发展过程的继续，威尔伯描述支点</span>
8 <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">标志着向更细微、更富象征意义的领域的转变。此阶段与梦境状态密切相关，此时心智的意象变得流动且充满丰富的原型象征。在这一阶段，平常清醒认知的界限让位于类似梦境符号语言的幻象体验。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">虽然威尔伯并不总能为支点</span>
8 <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">提供单一简明的引述，但他在《整体灵性》等著作中的论述暗示了这样一种体验性特征：</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在细微层面，原型神祇和光明而难以言喻的符号图像开始浮现</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就像梦中那种生动、情感充沛的图像一样。清醒心智的普通逻辑逐渐退去，使更深层次的象征和能量流显现出来，给体验注入了一种超越性的美。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（以上内容为对威尔伯在《整体灵性》等相关著作中讨论的细微层面体验的意译；请参见相关整合性评论。）</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"Fulcrum 8: The Subtle (Deity Mystic) Level – Dream
State As the developmental process continues, Wilber describes fulcrum 8 as
marking a transition into a subtler, more symbolically charged realm. This
stage corresponds closely with the dream state in which the mind’s imagery
becomes fluid and richly archetypal. In this phase, the boundaries of ordinary
waking cognition give way to visionary experiences that resemble the dream’s
symbolic language.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Although Wilber does not always offer a single, succinct
quotation for fulcrum 8, his writings in Integral Spirituality and related
works suggest an experiential quality such as:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“At the subtle level, images of archetypal deities and
luminous, ineffable symbols begin to surface—much like the vivid, emotionally
charged images of a dream. The ordinary logic of the waking mind recedes,
allowing the deeper symbolic and energetic currents to emerge and infuse
experience with a transcendent beauty.”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(Paraphrased from Wilber’s discussions in Integral
Spirituality; see also for additional integrative commentary.)<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">脚注</span>/</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">附注：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">此处</span>“fulcrum”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">译为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">支点</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span>“Integral
Spirituality”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">译为《整体灵性》。</span><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">支点</span> 9</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：根源层面（无形神秘体验者）</span> —— </b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无梦深睡状态</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">进一步发展，支点</span> 9
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">代表根源领域</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在这一状态中，平常梦境中的图像消失于一片无形、未分化的觉知广阔之中。该阶段类似于无梦深睡状态，在这一状态中，通常心智中的内容溶解，留下深邃、寂静的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">根基</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">般的意识。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯写道，在这一层面上：</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那种体验是纯粹、无结构的觉知，其中思维、情感和感官内容的常规模式让位于一种空性，这空性并非虚无，而是所有体验的基础。在这里，通常的主客二分被超越了，人们只剩下一种非概念、根源的临在感。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（以上内容根据威尔伯在《万物简史》和《整体灵性》中的描述进行意译，并参照相关整合性洞见。）</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在深睡状态下，心智不再产生通常的叙事，但仍有一片</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">根源</span>” <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">存在的场域</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那是纯粹存在的根基，暗示着我们体验现实为纯粹存在的潜能，而不被图像或念头所干扰。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"Fulcrum 9: The Causal (Formless Mystic) Level –
Dreamless Sleep Moving further, fulcrum 9 represents the causal realm—a state
in which the ordinary dream images vanish into an expanse of formless,
undifferentiated awareness. This stage is comparable to the dreamless, deep
sleep state in which the usual contents of mind dissolve, leaving behind a
profound, silent “ground” of consciousness.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Wilber writes that at this level:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“The experience is one of pure, unstructured awareness,
where the usual patterns of thought, emotion, and sensory content have given
way to a kind of emptiness that is not nothing, but the very substrate of all
experience. Here, the usual subject–object split is transcended, and one is
left with a profound sense of being in a state of non-conceptual, causal
presence.”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(Paraphrase based on Wilber’s descriptions in A Brief
History of Everything and Integral Spirituality; see also for integrative
insights.)<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">In deep sleep the mind does not generate its usual
narrative, yet there is an underlying field—a “causal” presence—that hints at
our capacity to experience reality as pure being, without the clutter of images
or thoughts."<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">脚注</span>/</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">附注：</span></b><br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">根源</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在此处译为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">根源</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，保持原文概念。</span><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">支点</span> 10</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：不二根基</span> —— </b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">超越区分</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">最后，支点</span> 10 <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">并不代表一个在平常意义上的新状态，而是揭示所有先前状态</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">清醒、梦境、无梦深睡</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">都是同一根本、不二根基的表现。在这一最终证悟中，主体与客体、内与外的二元对立完全消解。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯以如下方式总结这一洞见：</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">从根源层面到不二层面的转变，并非跃进到另一个层次，而是揭开了所有层次的</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">如是</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。这是一种认知，明白无论是清醒、象征性的梦境，还是无形的深睡状态，都终究是同一不可分割的根基的表现。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（以上内容根据威尔伯在《整体灵性》中后期的论述进行意译，并在其关于不二神秘体验者的讨论中有所体现；另见</span>
AWAKENINGTOREALITY.COM <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">等。）</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在这里，非二元的根基——支点</span>10<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">——是那永恒常在的实相，在此，清醒、梦境与深睡之间的区分皆消融。此即如性，存在的终极根基，在这里，看似多样的状态显现为一体。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"Fulcrum 10: The Nondual Ground – Beyond Distinction
Finally, fulcrum 10 does not represent a new state in the ordinary sense but
rather the recognition that all prior states—waking, dreaming, and dreamless
sleep—are expressions of one fundamental, nondual ground. At this culminating
realization, the dualities of subject and object, inside and outside, simply
vanish.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Wilber encapsulates this insight by stating:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“The transition from the causal to the nondual is not a leap
into another level, but the unveiling of the Suchness of all levels. It is the
recognition that every state of consciousness, whether it be the ordinary
waking, the symbolic dream, or the formless sleep, is ultimately expressions of
the same underlying, indivisible reality.”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(Paraphrased from Wilber’s later remarks in Integral
Spirituality and echoed in his discussions on nondual mysticism; see
AWAKENINGTOREALITY.COM and .)<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Here, the nondual ground—fulcrum 10—is the ever-present
reality in which the distinctions between waking, dreaming, and deep sleep
dissolve. This is the Suchness, the ultimate ground of being where the apparent
multiplicity of states is revealed to be one."<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">脚注</span>/</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">附注：</span></b><br />
“Suchness”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">译为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">如是</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，保留原文意涵。</span><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">脚注</span>/</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">附注：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">此处</span>“Integral
World”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">译为《整体世界》，但为保持原文一致，此处直接引用原文标题。</span><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">整合</span> Diperna
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的洞见</span><br />
Diperna<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>2004<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）在《</span>Integral World<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">》中的文章加深了这一图谱，强调这些不同状态并非随机或孤立的现象，而是构成了一个整体发展连续体的一部分。</span>Diperna
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">论述</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">觉醒（</span>waking up<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的过程不仅关乎垂直成长（超越自我），也关乎横向发展</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一种在日常体验中展开、更加深刻、充实的临在。根据</span> Diperna <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的说法：</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">通过梦境与深睡、细微与根源领域的相互作用，我们被邀请去看到，我们平常的清醒意识不过是一个更大光谱中的一个方面</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在这个光谱中，每种状态都携带着其独特的转化潜力。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这一整合视角肯定了以下几点：</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">• <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">清醒状态（支点</span>7<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）是我们的日常现实，在自然神秘体验者体验的瞬间，它可以揭示出更深的统一性。</span><br />
• <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">梦境状态（支点</span>8<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）开启了通向细微丰富象征性世界的大门，在那里原型能量得以切实体验。</span><br />
• <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">深睡状态（支点</span>9<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）则提供了根源、无形纯然存在根基的一丝体验。</span><br />
• <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">最终，不二根基（支点</span>10<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）将这些表现统一为一个永恒存在的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">如是</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">因此，</span>Diperna
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的文章进一步强化了威尔伯的主张：这些状态是同一潜在觉知的相互关联的表达</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这一真相既可以在我们夜间的梦中，也可以在深睡寂静的时刻中获得。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">结论</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">肯</span>·<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯的超个人支点为我们提供了一份详细的体验性地图，展示了我们的意识如何从平常的清醒状态演变为更深、更统一的存在模式。正如他对支点</span>7<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的生动描述</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一位在散步中与山融为一体的自然神秘体验者修行者</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">清醒状态蕴含着与世界短暂融合的潜能。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在支点</span>8<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">中，类似梦境状态，心智展开成丰富的象征性景观，显现出细微能量和原型形式；而在支点</span>9<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">中，无梦深睡状态则暗示了一种深邃、无形的觉知</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一种构成所有现象根基的根源场域。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">最后，支点</span>10<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">则是那种不二证悟，它溶解了所有界限，显示出清醒、梦境和深睡仅仅是同一永恒、无分裂意识的不同表达。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">综合威尔伯的这些洞见</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">并结合</span> Diperna <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的整合性评论</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">为我们提供了一种全面而切身的理解，即我们如何从碎片化的自我感中走向对包罗万象、无二存在的觉悟。</span><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"Integrating Diperna’s Insights The article by Diperna
(2004) on Integral World deepens this map by highlighting how these different
states are not random or isolated phenomena but part of an overarching
developmental continuum. Diperna writes of the “waking up” process as not only
a matter of vertical growth (transcending the ego) but also of horizontal
development—a deepening, fuller presence that unfolds in daily experience.
According to Diperna:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“Through the interplay of dreams and deep sleep, the subtle
and the causal realms, we are invited to see that our ordinary, waking
consciousness is but one facet of a much larger spectrum—a spectrum where every
state carries its own transformative potential.”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">This integrative perspective affirms that:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">The waking state (fulcrum 7) is our everyday reality that
can, in moments of nature mysticism, reveal its deeper unity. The dream state
(fulcrum 8) opens the door to the rich, symbolic world of the subtle, where
archetypal energies are palpably experienced. The deep sleep state (fulcrum 9)
offers a taste of the causal, formless ground of pure being. And ultimately,
the nondual ground (fulcrum 10) unifies these expressions into a single,
ever-present Suchness. Diperna’s article thus reinforces Wilber’s claim that
these states are interrelated expressions of the same underlying
consciousness—a truth that is accessible both in our nightly dreams and in the
quiet moments of deep sleep.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Conclusion Ken Wilber’s transpersonal fulcrums provide a
detailed experiential map of how our consciousness evolves from the ordinary
waking state into deeper, more unified modes of being. As illustrated by his
evocative description of fulcrum 7—where a nature mystic on a walk becomes one
with the mountain—the waking state holds the potential for momentary fusion
with the world<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">At fulcrum 8, akin to the dream state, the mind unfolds into
rich, symbolic landscapes that reveal subtle energies and archetypal forms,
while at fulcrum 9 the dreamless sleep state hints at a profound, formless
awareness—a causal ground that underlies all phenomena.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">And ultimately, fulcrum 10 is the nondual realization that
dissolves all boundaries, showing that waking, dreaming, and deep sleep are
simply different expressions of the same eternal, unfragmented consciousness<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Together, these insights from Wilber—and enriched by
Diperna’s integrative commentary—offer a comprehensive, lived understanding of
how we can move from a fragmented sense of self toward the realization of an
all-encompassing, nondual Being.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">脚注</span>/</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">附注：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><ol start="1" style="margin-top: 0cm;" type="1">
 <li class="MsoNormal">“fulcrum”
     <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">保持译作</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">支点</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">；</span>“Suchness”
     <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">译为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">如是</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></li>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简短说明：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">以上翻译严格逐句复现原文内容，确保每个句子、段落和技术性佛法术语均无遗漏，且完全按照原文顺序排列。请确认是否有需要进一步调整或补充。</span><o:p></o:p></p><div style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border: none; mso-border-bottom-alt: solid windowtext .75pt; mso-element: para-border-div; padding: 0cm 0cm 1.0pt 0cm;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>&nbsp;</b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">段落</span> 1<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“Mere vividness of clarity is not enlightenment<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">仅仅清晰生动并不等同于开悟</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Session Start: Sunday, August 27, 2006<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">会议开始：</span>2006<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年</span>8<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">月</span>27<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">日，星期日</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:12 PM) John: Read ur email about the ken wilber page
250.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:12 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：读一下你关于肯</span>·<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯第</span>250<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">页的电子邮件。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:12 PM) AEN: ok wait<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:12 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：好，等等。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:13 PM) AEN: icic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:13 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白明白。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:13 PM) John: fulcrum 10 is the peak of no-self (comments
by Soh: actually as clarified later, it is more of substantialist nondual but
not yet anatta realization) and beginning to understand emptiness as it is but
not necessarily understood the meaning of emptiness.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:13 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：支点</span>10<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是无我之巅（</span>Soh <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">注：其实后来澄清，这更像是一种实体论式的不二体验，但还未达到无我证悟），并且是开始理解</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">空</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本然之实相，但不一定完全领会</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">空</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的意义。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:13 PM) AEN: oic..<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:13 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:14 PM) John: to date, ken wilber's description of
enlightenment is closest to my description. (Note by Soh: However, Ken Wilber's
understanding is still more of Stage 4 nondual, not yet anatta and emptiness as
John Tan later clarified)<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:14 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：到目前为止，肯</span>·<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯对开悟的描述最接近我的描述。（</span>Soh <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">注：然而，肯</span>·<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯的理解仍更属于第四阶段的不二体验，还未达到无我和空性的证悟，如</span>
John Tan <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">后来所澄清）</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:14 PM) John: it is from fulcrum 9-10<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:14 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：它是从支点</span>9<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">至支点</span>10<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">开始的。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:14 PM) AEN: icic..<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:14 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:15 PM) John: except that fulcrum 7-9 is waking, dreaming
and dreamless is what i told u should not be followed.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:15 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：只是支点</span>7<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">到支点</span>9<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">清醒、梦中和无梦状态</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，那是我告诉你不该遵循的。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:15 PM) AEN: oic..<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:15 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:15 PM) John: let's take longchen for example, from his
understanding and my description to him, where do u think i am leading him?<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:15 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：以</span> Longchen <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">为例，从他的理解和我对他的描述来看，你认为我正引导他走向何处？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:16 PM) AEN: emptienss?<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:16 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：空性？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:16 PM) AEN: no-self and emptiness<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:16 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：无我和空性</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:16 PM) AEN: lol<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:16 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哈哈</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:16 PM) John: yes<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:16 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：是的</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:16 PM) John: so where was he when he first communicated
with u?<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:16 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：那么他第一次和你交流时处于什么状态？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:16 PM) AEN: i nterms of falcrum?<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:16 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：就支点而言？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:17 PM) John: yeah<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:17 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：对</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:17 PM) AEN: falcrum 9-1?<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:17 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：支点</span>9-1<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:17 PM) John: yes<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:17 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：是的</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:17 PM) John: did he go through 7 and 8?<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:17 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：他经历过支点</span>7<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">和支点</span>8<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">吗？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:17 PM) AEN: no<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:17 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：没有</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:18 PM) John: okie then how is one to experience fulcrum
9? That is what i disagree. :)<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:18 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：好吧，那么一个人应如何体验支点</span>9<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">？这正是我不同意的地方。</span> :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:18 PM) John: in fact true enlightenment should only
start at 9.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:18 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：实际上真正的开悟应该只从支点</span>9<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">开始。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:18 PM) John: and a glimpse of our nature starts at 9.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:18 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：而我们本性的微见也始于支点</span>9<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:18 PM) AEN: oic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:18 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:19 PM) AEN: u mean he said otherwise?<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:19 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：你的意思是他另有所说？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:19 PM) John: 7 can be the result of mindfulness<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:19 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：支点</span>7<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">可能是正念</span>(<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">保持清明觉照</span>)<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的结果。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:19 PM) AEN: which page is 7<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:19 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：支点</span>7<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在哪一页？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:19 PM) John: page 7?<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:19 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：第</span>7<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">页？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:19 PM) John: i mean fulcrum 7<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:19 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我是指支点</span>7<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:19 PM) AEN: oh ok found it<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:19 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哦，好吧，找到了。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:19 PM) AEN: icic..<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:19 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:20 PM) John: mindfulness can lead us to fulcrum 7. That
is the result of being mindful and non conceptual.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:20 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：正念可以引领我们达到支点</span>7<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。这是正念与非概念化状态的结果。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:20 PM) John: but our true nature isn't experienced...
means there is no this sudden awareness of "I AMness". (Soh: Also
see: 1) Thusness/PasserBy's Seven Stages of Enlightenment (Available in
Languages: AR, DA, DE, EN, ES, FR, HI, ID, IT, JA, KO, NE, PL, PT-BR, PT-PT,
RU, TA, TH, VI, ZH) )<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:20 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：但是我们的本性并没有被直接体验</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">意味着没有那种突如其来的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">觉知。（</span>Soh <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">注：另见《</span>Thusness/PasserBy <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的七阶段开悟》，提供多种语言版本）</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:21 PM) AEN: oic..<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:21 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:21 PM) John: this "I AMness" is a natural
progression when the karmic propensities is still very strong and yet there is
a sudden glimpse of our nature.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:21 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：这种</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">觉知是一种自然的进展，当业力倾向依然强烈，但又突然瞥见我们本性时就会出现。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:21 PM) AEN: icic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:21 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:21 PM) John: at that moment, one is not able to discern
what is the meaning of no-self<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:21 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：在那一刻，人无法辨识出何为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:21 PM) AEN: oic..<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:21 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:22 PM) John: why no doership and why no I. Because the
experience of that Presence (They experience it as ISness, as Pure Presence but
yet still fall back to 'Self') because of karmic propensities and habitual
energy.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:22 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：为何没有</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">施为者</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">主体</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">和为何没有</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">？因为那种临在的体验（他们体验为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">即是</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>ISness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）、为纯粹临在，但仍然会回归到</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（大）我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），正是由于业力倾向和习惯能量所致。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:23 PM) John: They were being misled by the hypnotic
spell of 'I'.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:23 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：他们被</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的催眠咒语所误导。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:23 PM) John: and how to break this spell?<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:23 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：那如何破除这种咒语呢？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:23 PM) AEN: icic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:23 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:23 PM) John: the experience is there but there is no
clarity, this is the problem.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:23 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：体验存在，但缺乏清晰，这正是问题所在。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:23 PM) AEN: oic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:23 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:24 PM) AEN: eh btw page 184 about falcrum 7, there is
some sort of nondualism experience?<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:24 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：顺便问一下，关于支点</span>7<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的第</span>184<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">页，好像有某种无二体验？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:24 PM) John: so one must know exactly the stage to lead
to the next stage by carefully breaking that spell of identification.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:24 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：所以必须确切知道每个阶段如何引向下一阶段，通过仔细破除那种认同的咒语。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:24 PM) AEN: 'u're on a nature walk.... and suddenly you
look at a beautiful mountain and wham - there is no looker - just the mountain<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:24 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：你就像在自然漫步</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">突然你望向一座美丽的山，砰</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">没有观看者，只有山。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:24 PM) AEN: icic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:24 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:24 PM) John: yes that is experience of clarity without
knowing the nature.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:24 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：是的，那就是那种对本性毫无认知的清晰体验。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:24 PM) AEN: oic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:24 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:25 PM) John: it is a stage<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:25 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：那是一个阶段。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:25 PM) AEN: not 'i amness'?<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:25 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：不是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">吗？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:25 PM) John: yes..<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:25 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：是的</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:25 PM) John: means one can experience clarity but has no
understanding of AMness.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:25 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：意味着一个人可以体验到清晰，但不明白</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:25 PM) AEN: o hmm last time i tink maybe i experience
falcrum 7<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:25 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哦，嗯，上次我想也许我体验到了支点</span>7<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:25 PM) AEN: hahaha<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:25 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哈哈哈</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:25 PM) John: he must continue to practice<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:25 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：他必须继续修行。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:25 PM) AEN: icic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:25 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:25 PM) John: yeah...<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:25 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：是的</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:26 PM) John: when u told me about the clarity about the
awareness that everything seems so clear and real.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:26 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：当你告诉我那种觉知使一切看起来如此清晰和真实。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:26 PM) John: this <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">【</span>experience<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">】</span>
is come and go.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:26 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：这种【体验】来来去去。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:26 PM) John: and i told u to see, the scenery but no one
there.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:26 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我告诉你，看那风景，却没有人</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:26 PM) AEN: icic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:26 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:26 PM) John: that is the vividness, the clarity... all
these are the attributes of awareness<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:26 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：那就是那种生动、清晰</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">所有这些都是觉知的属性。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:27 PM) John: now i tell u to experience the calmness to
gather strength<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:27 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：现在我告诉你去体验那种平静以积聚力量。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:27 PM) AEN: oic..<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:27 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:27 PM) John: stillness of body and mind<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:27 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：身心的静止。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:27 PM) John: this is tranquility and calmness, not
clarity and luminosity<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:27 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：这就是宁静与平静，而不是清晰与光明。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:27 PM) AEN: icic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:27 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:28 PM) John: so one can experience clarity and vividness
but the path of enlightenment hasn't start yet.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:28 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：所以一个人可以体验到清晰与生动，但开悟之路尚未开始。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:28 PM) AEN: oic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:28 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:28 PM) John: there must be this intuitive understanding
of "I AMness" then it begins.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:28 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：必须要有这种对</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">直观的体悟，开悟才会开始。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:29 PM) John: like eckhart tolle<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:29 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：就像</span> Eckhart Tolle(“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当下的力量</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">作者埃克哈特·托利</span>) <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那样</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><!--[if gte vml 1]><v:shapetype
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<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:29 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:29 PM) John: like longchen and ken wilber... all these
ppl experience the 'Self'.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:29 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：就像</span> Longchen <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">和肯</span>·<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这些人都体验到</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">大我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:29 PM) John: the 'Self' is a misunderstood version.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:29 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：但</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">大我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是一种被误解的版本。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:30 PM) AEN: oic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:30 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:30 PM) John: When I told longchen first there is no I,
no self yet there is Presence, he confused.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:30 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：当我第一次告诉</span> Longchen“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">没有我、没有我，而只有临在</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">时，他很困惑。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:30 PM) John: remember?<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:30 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：记得吗？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:30 PM) AEN: ya<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:30 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：是的</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:31 PM) John: then he was thinking can one experience to
a high stage but yet is still ignorance of the source... this is the question
he asked bob.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:31 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：后来他在想，一个人是否能体验到高层次，却依然对根源一无所知</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这是他问</span> Bob <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的问题。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:31 PM) AEN: oic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:31 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:31 PM) John: remember?<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:31 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：记得吗？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:31 PM) AEN: not too sure<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:31 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：不太确定</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:31 PM) AEN: which post?<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:31 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哪一篇帖子？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:31 PM) John: hmm.... what is his site url&gt;<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:31 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：嗯</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">他的站点网址是什么？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:31 PM) John: heheeh<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:31 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：呵呵</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:31 PM) AEN: wait<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:31 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：等等</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:31 PM) AEN: <a href="http://simpo.proboards20.com/" target="_new">http://simpo.proboards20.com</a><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:31 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span><a href="http://simpo.proboards20.com/" target="_new">http://simpo.proboards20.com</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:31 PM) John: u r the one that send me the post what.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:31 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：你是发给我那篇帖子的那个人。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:32 PM) John: kok ur head<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:32 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：你脑子瓜呢？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:32 PM) John: lol<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:32 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哈哈</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:32 PM) AEN: hahaha<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:32 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哈哈哈</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:32 PM) AEN: i mean around when?<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:32 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我是说，大概是什么时候？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:53 PM) John: <a href="http://simpo.proboards20.com/index.cgi?board=insight&amp;action=display&amp;thread=1118915725" target="_new">http://simpo.proboards20.com/index.cgi?board=insight&amp;action=display&amp;thread=1118915725</a><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:53 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span><a href="http://simpo.proboards20.com/index.cgi?board=insight&amp;action=display&amp;thread=1118915725" target="_new">http://simpo.proboards20.com/index.cgi?board=insight&amp;action=display&amp;thread=1118915725</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:54 PM) John: ahaha....<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:54 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：啊哈哈</span>…… (12:54 PM) John: me of Me. :)<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:54 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我之我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span>
:)<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:54 PM) AEN: oic..<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:54 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:54 PM) John: wah... take so long to look for this post
that u send me. :P<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:54 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哇</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">找你发给我的那篇帖子找了好久。</span> :P<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:55 PM) AEN: yea hahaha... thanks for looking<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:55 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：是啊，哈哈哈</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">谢谢你找。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:55 PM) John: Reply #8 on Oct 24, 2005, 12:39am<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:55 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>2005<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年</span>10<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">月</span>24<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">日凌晨</span>12:39<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的回复</span> #8<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:56 PM) AEN: icic..<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:56 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:56 PM) John: he was asking bob can one be so aligned
with vast absolute yet not aware of the thinker of thoughts. :)<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:56 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：他问</span> Bob<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，一个人能否如此与浩瀚绝对对齐，却不觉知那思维者？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:57 PM) AEN: oic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:57 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:57 PM) John: he doesn't dare to ask in religion/sects...
:)<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:57 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：他在宗派里不敢问</span>…… :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:57 PM) John: lol<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:57 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哈哈</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:57 PM) AEN: haha why??<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:57 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哈哈，为什么？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:57 PM) John: he said so what...<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:57 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：他说</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那又怎样</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:57 PM) AEN: yea i mean y he wldnt dare<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:57 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：是啊，我是说他为什么不敢。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:58 PM) John: paiseh to ask lah... later say like all ppl
in Buddhism forum not enlightened. :P<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:58 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：不好意思问啦</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">以后再说，就像佛教论坛里所有人都不是开悟的那样。</span> :P<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:58 PM) AEN: hahaha<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:58 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哈哈哈</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:58 PM) AEN: icic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:58 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:59 PM) John: it is important that he breaks through that
witness and see it in manifestation, that is exactly what ken wilber said. :)<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:59 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：重要的是他必须突破那个见证者，亲见其显现</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这正是肯</span>·<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯所说的。</span> :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:59 PM) AEN: oic..<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:59 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:59 PM) John: in fact i borrow his books last week just
because i saw this phrase. :P<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>12:59 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：实际上我上周借了他的书，就是因为我看到这句话。</span> :P<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:00 PM) AEN: oh.. icic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:00 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哦</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:00 PM) AEN: haha<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:00 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哈哈</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:00 PM) John: otherwise no value.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:00 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：否则毫无价值。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:00 PM) AEN: oic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:00 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:00 PM) John: because it is very common for one to sink
back to the source.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:00 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：因为人很容易沉溺于源头。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:00 PM) John: but for his case, it is a bit unique... he
dwell completely into manifestation.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:00 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：但就他而言，有点特别</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">他完全沉浸在显现之中。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:00 PM) AEN: icic...<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:00 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:01 PM) John: and he experience witnessing consciousness
in all three stages.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:01 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：而且他在清醒、梦中和无梦状态中都体验到见证觉知。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:01 PM) AEN: oic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:01 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:01 PM) John: waking, dreaming and dreamless<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:01 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：清醒、梦境和无梦</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:01 PM) AEN: icic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:01 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:02 PM) John: but the way he puts it into fulcrum 7 and 8
before 9 is experienced, i can't agree.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:02 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：但他把支点</span>7<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">和</span>8<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">置于支点</span>9<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">之前的描述，我不同意。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:02 PM) John: i think it is not right and dangerous.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:02 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我认为这不对，而且很危险。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:02 PM) AEN: how come/<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:02 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：为什么？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:02 PM) John: however i like his books because of his
experience.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:02 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：不过我喜欢他的书，因为他的体验。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:02 PM) AEN: wait falcrum 8 is...?<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:02 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：等等，支点</span>8<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是什么？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:03 PM) AEN: falcrum 7 is dangerous? lol<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:03 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：支点</span>7<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">危险？哈哈</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:03 PM) John: because that sort of practice is first not
towards liberation means there is no wisdom in our nature but merely a stage.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:03 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：因为那种修行首先并非走向解脱，意味着那只是个阶段，根本没有智慧。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:03 PM) AEN: oic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:03 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:03 PM) John: next the tranquil calm that is most
important for any practices isn't mentioned.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:03 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：接下来，任何修行最重要的那种宁静平和却没有被提及。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:03 PM) John: that to me is not right.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:03 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：在我看来这不对。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:03 PM) John: and very dangerous.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:03 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：而且非常危险。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:03 PM) AEN: icic...<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:03 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:04 PM) John: a correct practice should lead one towards
calmness, purity and tranquility.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:04 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：正确的修行应引导人走向平静、纯净和安宁。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:04 PM) AEN: oic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:04 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:04 PM) John: this comes first then even one experience
nothing about our nature is able to benefit from such fruition.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:04 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：这必须先行，否则即使有体验，也无法从这成果中获得利益。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:05 PM) AEN: oic...<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:05 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:05 PM) John: during death, ward off evils, solve daily
problems, deal with mental stress<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:05 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：在临终时、驱邪、解决日常问题、应对心理压力时，</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:05 PM) AEN: icic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:05 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:05 PM) John: such calmness itself is the 'mantra', is the
cure for all the above.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:05 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：那种平静本身就是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">咒语</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，是以上一切问题的解药。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:06 PM) AEN: oic...<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:06 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:06 PM) AEN: ward off evil as in<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:06 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：比如驱邪</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:06 PM) John: or serve as the base for it.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:06 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：或者成为其基础。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:06 PM) AEN: oic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:06 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:06 PM) John: yeah... when the mind is calm, there is little
power over some person.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:06 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：是的</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当心静时，对某些人就没什么力量。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:06 PM) John: it is difficult to penetrate such a mind.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:06 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：很难渗透进这样的心境。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:06 PM) AEN: o icic...<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:06 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哦，明白明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:06 PM) John: therefore that must be the base of practice
first.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:06 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：因此，这必须首先成为修行的根基。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:07 PM) AEN: oic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:07 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:07 PM) John: only when conditions are right and one is
quite sure that the practitioner is ready, then it is appropriate to guide one
towards dreamless and dream stage... and real qualified masters are needed.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:07 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：只有当条件成熟，且确认修行者已经准备好时，才适宜引导其进入无梦与梦境阶段</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">而且需要真正合格的大师。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:08 PM) AEN: oic...<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:08 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:08 PM) John: dealing with the mind itself into a realm
that is not easily understood by ppl is dangerous.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:08 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：把心直接引入一个人们不易理解的境界是危险的。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:08 PM) John: and those masters are sure themselves unless
they are really high achievers.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:08 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：而那些大师自己也必须是非常高成就者。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:08 PM) John: how many of them are truly so?<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:08 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：有多少人是真正如此呢？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:08 PM) AEN: oic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:08 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:09 PM) John: therefore one should refrain from such
practice.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:09 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：因此，应当避免这种修行。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:09 PM) AEN: oic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:09 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:10 PM) John: and teachers must correctly advise their
students or followers their practices toward achieving the virtuous attributes
of the mind.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:10 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：而老师必须正确指导他们的学生或追随者，修行以达成心的美德属性。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:10 PM) AEN: oic...<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:10 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:10 PM) John: and at the same time provide correct
knowledge of our nature, leading them only when the conditions are right.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:10 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：同时，还要提供关于我们本性的正确知识，仅在条件成熟时引导他们。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:10 PM) AEN: icic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:10 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:11 PM) John: lol... otherwise if nub ask then i start
telling them this and that or twe asked then reply this and that... then they
are misled.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:11 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哈哈</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">否则如果有初学者问，我就开始东拉西扯，结果他们就被误导了。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:11 PM) AEN: oic hahah<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:11 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白，哈哈</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:12 PM) John: rather lead them towards the experience of
the tranquil calm, it will solve their problems and experience the benefits and
fruition of chanting and meditation.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:12 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：不如引导他们体验那种宁静平和，这将解决他们的问题，并让他们体验念佛</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">诵经和禅修带来的益处和果实。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:12 PM) AEN: icic...<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:12 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:13 PM) John: then get them acquainted with dharma and have
correct understanding of what our true nature is like.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:13 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：然后让他们熟悉正法，并正确理解我们本性的样貌。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:13 PM) John: that's all.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:13 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：就这些。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:13 PM) AEN: oic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:13 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:14 PM) John: the page 250 of what ken wilber described is
exactly what longchen need now, he must stabilize this experience<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:14 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：肯</span>·<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯所描述的第</span>250<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">页，正是</span>
Longchen <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">现在需要的，他必须稳定这种体验。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:15 PM) John: and return to the practice of tranquility
and calmness through letting go to master the thought pattern.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:15 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：并通过放下来回归宁静平和的修行，以掌控思维模式。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:15 PM) AEN: oic...<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:15 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:15 PM) John: with this mastery, he is able to complete
allow the condition of sleep to manifest as it is.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:15 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：有了这种掌握，他便能让睡眠状态完全自然地显现。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:16 PM) John: now during night, sleep will definitely
occur<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:16 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：现在夜间必定会进入睡眠状态。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:16 PM) John: why?<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:16 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：为什么？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:16 PM) John: because the conditions are there.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:16 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：因为条件已经具备。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:16 PM) John: the mind knows<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:16 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：心知如此。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:16 PM) AEN: icic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:16 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:16 PM) John: and is aware of it.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:16 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：并对此有觉知。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:16 PM) John: right?<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:16 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：对吗？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:16 PM) AEN: 6ya<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:16 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：对</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:17 PM) John: when the conditions are there, there is
manifestation and that is itself the source.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:17 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：当条件具备时，显现自生，而那便是源头。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:17 PM) AEN: oic...<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:17 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:17 PM) John: when we din sleep, it is not that the stage
is high but rather we are unable to allow conditions to be as it is<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:17 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：当我们不能入睡时，并不是阶段高了，而是我们无法让条件保持原状。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:18 PM) John: if we can enter into deep sleep, it is
because of this<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:18 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：如果我们能进入深睡状态，正是因此。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:18 PM) John: one must observe the condition<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:18 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：必须观察那种状态。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:18 PM) AEN: oic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:18 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:19 PM) John: when we are not able to take nothingness as
an object which is so obvious during deep sleep, we are denying that condition<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:19 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：当我们无法把</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">视为一个客体，而这在深睡时是如此明显，我们就是在否认那种状态。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:19 PM) John: it is a form of subtle attachment<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:19 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：这是一种细微的执着。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:19 PM) AEN: oic...<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:19 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:19 PM) John: and also not knowing emptiness<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:19 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：也就是不了解空性。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:19 PM) AEN: icic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:19 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:19 PM) John: an attachment to the self.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:19 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：一种对我的执着。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:19 PM) AEN: oic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:19 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:20 PM) John: natural awareness can be sustained but
through another way.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:20 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：自然的觉知可以以另一种方式维持。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:20 PM) John: that is, one is able to control the thought
patterns and allow thoughts to subside<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:20 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：也就是说，人能够控制思维模式，使念头得以平息。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:20 PM) AEN: icic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:20 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:20 PM) John: only after achieving this level, we have mastery
we can go into it.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:20 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：只有达到这一层次，我们才算掌握，才能深入其中。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:20 PM) John: that is achievement<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:20 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：那就是成就。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:21 PM) AEN: oic...<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:21 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:22 PM) John: when u read ken wilber's book, do know about
what can be practiced, what can't.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:22 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：当你阅读肯</span>·<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯的书时，你要知道什么可以修，什么不可以。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:22 PM) AEN: icic ok<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:22 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白，好的</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:22 PM) John: when future u faced problem u must know what
can solve ur problems<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:22 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：当未来你遇到问题时，你必须知道什么能解决你的问题。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:23 PM) AEN: oic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:23 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:23 PM) John: it is always about the mastery of our
thoughts (the capacity to slow down and settle it) in a mundane world.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:23 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：一切都在于掌握我们的思维（即放慢并安定它的能力），在俗世之中。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:23 PM) AEN: oic...<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:23 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:24 PM) John: then it comes to ultimate liberation and
enlightenment, that is the intuitive experience of our pristine nature. :)<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:24 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：然后便是最终的解脱与开悟，即对我们本初本性的直观体验。</span> :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:24 PM) AEN: icic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:24 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:25 PM) John: for one that experience "I AM",
one can still take another 20 years to experience what ken wilber said.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:25 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：对于体验</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的人来说，还可能需要</span>20<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年才能体验到肯</span>·<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯所说的那种境界。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:25 PM) John: it is just a 'spell' that bond and it takes
more than 20 yrs for him to break.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:25 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：这只是一种束缚的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">咒语</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，需要超过</span>20<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年才能破除。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:25 PM) John: nothing changes<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:25 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：什么都不改变</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:25 PM) John: just a bond<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:25 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：仅仅是一种束缚</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:25 PM) AEN: oic...<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:25 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:26 PM) AEN: hmm ask u arh, if a practitioner attains a
very high stage this lifetime, will he still need to go through all the various
stages ken wilber mentioned in the next lifetime? lol<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:26 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：嗯，我问你，如果一个修行者这一生达到了很高的阶段，下辈子还需要经历肯</span>·<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">威尔伯提到的所有各个阶段吗？哈哈</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:26 PM) John: yeah<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:26 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：是的</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:27 PM) John: as far as i know... hehehe<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:27 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：据我所知</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">呵呵呵</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:27 PM) AEN: haha<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:27 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哈哈</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:27 PM) AEN: icic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:27 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:27 PM) John: but don't worry too much... coz the strength
of the practice is latent deep inside...<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:27 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：但别太担心</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">因为修行的力量潜藏在深处</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:27 PM) AEN: oic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:27 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:29 PM) John: how is the channel now?<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:29 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：现在频道怎么样？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:30 PM) AEN: the buddhist channel? ok la but quite quiet..
still got some chatting but not much<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:30 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：佛教频道？好吧，但相当安静</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">还有些聊天，但不多。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:30 PM) AEN: and all the ops are gone<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:30 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：而且所有管理员（</span>ops<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）都不在了。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:30 PM) AEN: last time got like 10 ops now only left 2<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:30 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：上次有大约</span>10<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">个管理员，现在只剩</span>2<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">个。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:30 PM) John: lol<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:30 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哈哈</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:30 PM) AEN: others all deregistered<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:30 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：其他人都注销了。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:30 PM) AEN: 2 as in including me<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:30 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：包括我在内只有</span>2<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">个。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:30 PM) John: msn better...<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:30 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>MSN <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">更好</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:30 PM) AEN: haha<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:30 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哈哈</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:30 PM) AEN: ya<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:30 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：是的</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:30 PM) John: have u read patanjali yoga sutra b4?<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:30 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：你以前读过《瑜伽经》吗？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:36 PM) AEN: Leonard says:<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:36 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>Leonard <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">说：</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">thats life - no chance to even go for the chanting .<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那就是生活</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">根本没有机会去诵经。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:36 PM) AEN: how come? wat happe<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:36 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：怎么会？发生了什么？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:36 PM) Leonard says:<br />
Leonard <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">说：</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">last night had dinner ....<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">昨晚吃了晚饭</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:36 PM) AEN: oic..<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:36 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:36 PM) Leonard says:<br />
Leonard <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">说：</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">sometimes i feel that karma is something that cannot be
avoided ... i am trying so hard....<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">有时候我觉得业果是无法避免的</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我正努力尝试</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:37 PM) John: yes... he can't.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:37 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：是的</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">他做不到。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:37 PM) AEN: icic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:37 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:38 PM) AEN: Leonard says:<br />
Leonard <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">说：</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">i wonder how the buddha did it....<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我想知道佛陀是怎么做到的</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:38 PM) John: a misunderstanding after the experience of
the 'Self' is the creation of a super will. :)<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:38 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：经历</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">大我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">之后的误解，便会产生一种超级意志。</span> :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:39 PM) John: Buddha didn<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">‘</span>t do it, he allows natural
manifestation<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:39 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：佛陀没那样做了，他让自然显现。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:40 PM) John: That 'will' is a wrong interpretation of our
true nature.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:40 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：那种</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">意志</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是对我们真实本性的错误解读。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:40 PM) AEN: oic..<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:40 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:40 PM) AEN: do i say that to him?<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:40 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我要对他说这个吗？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:40 PM) John: yes<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:40 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：是的</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:40 PM) AEN: ok<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:40 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：好的</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:41 PM) John: time to understand more about how 'thoughts'
work<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:41 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：该多了解一下</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">念头</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是如何运作的。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:41 PM) John: :P<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:41 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>:P<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:42 PM) John: when we take 'thought' and dwell into the
content, we will be affected. There is no escape.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:42 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：当我们沉浸在</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">念头</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的内容中时，我们就会受到影响。无可逃避。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:42 PM) AEN: oic..<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:42 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:43 PM) John: However by concentrating on the virtuous
qualities of the mind and nothing about the content of thoughts, we will be
able to dissolve thoughts.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:43 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：然而，只要专注于心的美德，而不在乎念头的内容，我们便能让念头消融。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:43 PM) John: just the qualities<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:43 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：只注重那些品质。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:43 PM) AEN: icic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:43 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:43 PM) John: there is no need to care about the
content...<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:43 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：无需关心内容</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:43 PM) AEN: oic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:43 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:44 PM) John: if he is able to dwell into those qualites,
the content will subside<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:44 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：如果他能够专注于那些品质，念头的内容便会平息。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:44 PM) AEN: icic<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:44 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白明白</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:44 PM) John: because all along this is being overlooked,
it cannot serve as a 'mantra' for overcoming problems.<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>1:44 PM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：因为一直忽略了这一点，所以它不能作为克服问题的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">咒语</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">为什么推荐</span>
Eckhart Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的《当下的力量》给初学者？</span><br />
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Soh Wei Yu<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">管理员：</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我还没有阅读该网站，但我相信</span>
Nafis <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">能够做出相当不错的判断（尽管仅基于网上有限的信息）。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但总体来说，只需学习你所能学到的内容；如果发现它没有呈现终极知见，也不要因此局限于此。但这并不意味着你应该放弃那些未呈现终极知见的老师或教导，因为只要有帮助，它就有帮助。比如</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我总是推荐给每个人、朋友、家人先读</span> Eckhart Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的《当下的力量》</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这本纽约时报畅销书全球销量达数百万册，而且通过</span> Oprah Winfrey <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的推广，他迅速获得了更高的声望。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">为什么我推荐</span>
Eckhart Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的《当下的力量》？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">1<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）这本书语言简单，表达方式极具启发性，能带来改变人生的感受。相比之下，</span>AtR
Guide <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">可能并不适合所有人，可能过于冗长、吓人、或过于深奥，或仅适用于一部分特定人群。话虽如此，我仍强烈推荐愿意阅读的人（无论是删减版还是完整版）阅读</span>
AtR Guide<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，我相信这对他们会大有裨益。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">2<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）它的体悟仅限于</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">层面，并未涉及更进一步的无二、无我或空性的深刻洞见，但对于许多人来说，这已经足够让他们一段时间内修习。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">3<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）书中对禅定实践和止观（混合了临在</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是）的训练有足够的强调，因为</span> Eckhart Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在深入禅定三昧上的经验远超许多新型非二元学者，他们往往忽略这一方面。他的体验相当透彻，涉及</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">以及其深度和强度，甚至包括作为体验的无二，但未必作为一种彻见</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">证悟</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">般若智。如</span> John Tan <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">所说，发展诸如七觉支（如平静、三昧、喜悦、清明等）的心理因素非常重要；而那些不重视这一点的人可能会误导他人，特别是当他们引导人们进入未经适当根基的改变状态时（例如在缺乏深度静定或某些止观训练的情况下）。</span>Eckhart
Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">被认为相当安全，并能为初学者指引正确方向（也许在追求终极知见和空性觉悟上还不够，但至少引导人初步觉知纯粹临在，并培养与禅定体验有关的能力）。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">John Tan <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">与我对此均表示赞同。也就是说，即使起初的知见是理智的（即使它仅为概念性），人们也应从一开始就树立正知见，尽管不必过于理智。你可以像我一样在体验</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">之前，从理智上了解关于无我、空性和缘起的不同阶段。你无需过于深入或过分理智（那样可能会形成另一种障碍，分散纯粹、天真体验性内观探究的注意力），但至少要明白正知见，以免被误导，或在达到</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">后误以为已经达到终极，并不知道下一步该如何前行。但与此同时，你可以修习自我探究等方法，先证悟</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。（我从</span>2006/2007<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年开始在理智上理解无我，从</span>2008<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年到</span>2010<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年修习自我探究，</span>2010<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年</span>2<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">月体悟</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，随后在</span>2010<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年</span>10<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">月体悟无我，空性则在之后的几年中逐步显现。）理智上对无我和空性的正知见使我从</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">到无我的进程仅用了大约</span>8<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">个月，而我认识的大多数人则停留在</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">阶段数年甚至数十年（即在今生中永远停留在</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">阶段），而没有得到正确指引。对知识的理智</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">概念执著确实在某种程度上阻碍或延缓了我体悟</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的进程，尽管我还是在两年的自我探究中实现了这一目标，可能在我</span>13<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">岁开始学习佛法后</span>6<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">到</span>7<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年内证悟。总之，正知见（即使最初只是概念性）与体验性、禅定内观实践之间应保持平衡。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Why is Recommend Eckhart Tolle's The Power of Now to Beginners<br />
Soh<br />
Soh Wei Yu<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Admin<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I haven't read the website but I trust that Nafis will be
able to make a reasonably good judgement (although based on the limited info
available online).<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">But in general, just learn what you can but don't get
restricted to it if you find it does not present the ultimate view. But it does
not mean you should abandon any teachers or teachings that did not present the
ultimate view, because if it helps, it helps. Like... I always recommend
people, friends, families to start with The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle, the
New York Times Bestseller that sold many millions of copies worldwide and he
was catapulted to further fame through Oprah Winfrey etc.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Why do I recommend TPON by Eckhart?<o:p></o:p></p><ol start="1" style="margin-top: 0cm;" type="1">
 <li class="MsoNormal">It
     is simple to read, can be very inspirational in the way he expresses, life
     transformative. AtR Guide may not be suitable for everyone, may be too
     lengthy/scary/indepth/etc or just not as inspiring, may be suitable for a
     more niche group of people. That said, of course, I do highly recommend
     AtR Guide (either the abridged one or the longer one -- whichever you can
     read) to anyone who is willing to go through them, I believe it will be of
     much benefit.<o:p></o:p></li>
 <li class="MsoNormal">Its
     insights is restricted to I AM only and not the further insights like
     nondual or anatta or emptiness, but it is enough for many to work on for a
     while.<o:p></o:p></li>
 <li class="MsoNormal">It
     has enough emphasis on meditative practices and shamatha training (mixed
     with Presence/I AM), because Eckhart Tolle has enough experience with deep
     meditative samadhi unlike many Neo-Advaitins which neglected this aspect.
     His experience is quite thorough, up to I AM and the depth and intensity
     of it, and even nondual as an experience but not as an insight. As John
     Tan say, developing these mental factors (like the seven factors of
     enlightenment - tranquility, samadhi, bliss, clarity, so on and so forth) are
     important, and those who don't emphasize this can be dangerous or
     misleading especially if they lead people towards altered states of
     consciousness without proper grounding (like in deep calmness, some
     shamatha training, etc. And John Tan has said that some shamatha is also
     important). Eckhart Tolle is considered quite safe and leads people in the
     right direction as a beginner (maybe not in terms of going towards the
     ultimate view and realization of emptiness, but towards the initial
     realization of Pure Presence and also training and developing meditative
     experience).<o:p></o:p></li>
</ol><p class="MsoNormal">John Tan agrees with me on all these points. That being
said, people should be instilled with right view at the start even if it is
intellectual IMO, although it is not good to be too intellectual. You can have
an intellectual view like I did about the different phases of insights, about
anatta and emptiness and dependent origination even before I had the I AM
realization. You don't need to go too indepth into them or be overly
intellectual (which can form another kind of hindrance and distraction from pure
innocent experiential/contemplative inquiry) but at least know the right view
so that you will not be misled or think you have reached finality after you
arrive at I AM, etc, and you know where to go next. But at the same time you
can practice self enquiry, etc, to realize the I AM first. (I understood anatta
intellectually since 2006/2007 but practiced self enquiry from 2008 to 2010 and
realized I AM in February 2010, then Anatta in Oct 2010 and Emptiness in
following years) Intellectual right view of anatta and emptiness shortened the
time for me to progress from I AM to anatta into a span of maybe 8 months,
where most people I know get stucked at I AM for several years or decades and
most likely lifetimes (i.e. never go beyond I AM phase in this life) without
the right pointers. The intellectual/conceptual obsession with knowledge did
hinder or slow down the time it took me to realize I AM somewhat, although I
still did it in 2 years of self enquiry, and maybe 6-7 years after first
starting to learn about dharma at the age of 13. Anyway there should be a
balance between right view (even if it is conceptual at first) and experiential
and meditative inquiry and practices."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal">[<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>John Tan </b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">关于</span>
Eckhart </b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的看法：</span></b><br />
<a href="http://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2021/10/the-power-of-now-by-eckhart-tolle.html" target="_new">http://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2021/10/the-power-of-now-by-eckhart-tolle.html</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">《当下的力量》</span>——
Eckhart Tolle </b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的有声书（</span>Youtube
</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">版）</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">回复删除</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span></b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">预览</span>4</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">分钟</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">标签：</span></b>
Eckhart Tolle<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">、有</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">、知见与道路</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">《当下的力量》</span>——
Eckhart Tolle </b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的有声书（</span>Youtube
</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">版）</span><br />
Soh</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>FriendsSoh</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这是一本我会推荐给所有人阅读的书</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无论他</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">她是佛教徒、基督徒、印度教徒、穆斯林、无神论者或不可知论者</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">只要他们对灵性持开放态度。该有声书由</span> Eckhart Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">朗读。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">另外相关：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>John Tan, 2006</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年</span>4</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">月，</span></b>
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这是一本极好的、非常鼓舞人心的书。我也很喜欢阅读</span>
Eckhart Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的书。笑</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>……</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但《当下的力量》并非用作关于终极现实的经文。</span><br />
</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就临在的触感而言，我更倾向于</span>
Toni Packer</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>Soh</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：见</span>
http://www.awakeningtoreality.com/search/label/Toni%20Packer</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）和</span> Joan Tollifson</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（见：</span>https://www.joantollifson.com/waking.html</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。尽管他们的书可能不如前者那般鼓舞人心。</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>……</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">嗨</span> Isis,</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不完全是那样。</span><br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是一种超越性的证悟体验，在这种体验中，意识被直接感知为纯粹存在的感觉。此体验直觉性极强，超越了思维的范畴；它是一种无二且珍贵的纯粹意识体验。问题在于，将这种本质上属于心理状态的体验拟人化为具有固有存在的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">实体。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>……</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">会话结束：</span></b>
2006<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年</span>4<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">月</span>16<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">日</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">星期日</span> 02:54:40<br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">去尽情享受《当下的力量》吧。</span>”<br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">哈哈，对。</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这是一本好书。我也喜欢他的书。</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">知道了。</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但就临在体验而言，其光明的表达不会仅仅是那样。</span>
:)<br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白了。</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">怎么会呢？</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但</span> Eckhart Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">应该知道该写些什么吧？</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">嗯</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我不知道。那种表达更像是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span> :)<br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你的意思是</span> Eckhart Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的？</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是的。</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白了，我同意。</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那他的表达与其他人的相比，在光明表达方面有何不同？</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">顺便问一句，耶稣呢？</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">笑</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">试试禅师道元。</span> :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">神的概念是个人化的。</span>
:)<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">存在一种深刻的个体性。</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白了，那是不是就像</span> Eckhart Tolle<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">？你提过他有一种深刻的个体感。</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这就是所谓的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">体验感。</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白了。</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">以这种方式体验神性就会产生那样的结果。</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白了。</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">纯觉知是不同的。</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">有临在，但强调的是清明和光明的方面，</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">而且最重要的是现实的空性方面。</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">光明与空性必须促成自发的显现。</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白了</span>……<br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我觉得这对我来说有道理。</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那么</span>……<br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在</span> Eckhart Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的书中，哪些词语能让你感受到深刻的个体性？</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那种描述与</span>
LongChen <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的描述非常相似。</span>
:)<br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白了。</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">他会理解的。</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">对，没错。</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我问过他了，</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你看过他的论坛吗？</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白了。</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">没有。</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <a href="http://simpo.proboards20.com/index.cgi?board=insight&amp;action=display&amp;thread=1144668006" target="_new">http://simpo.proboards20.com/index.cgi?board=insight&amp;action=display&amp;thread=1144668006</a><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我有他的书。</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在我看来，这书一般般。我认为开悟并不像他所描述的那样容易。基本上，他整本书都围绕</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这一主题展开。</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但我认为，他关于如何进入临在的方式在书中描述得并不清楚。而且，我觉得他也把</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">纯观察者</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">误认为是纯觉知。</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">此外，我们在开悟之后的生活并不会陷入停滞。我们仍会继续学习新知，加深理解。从某种角度看，我觉得这本书给人建立了虚假的希望。疗愈同样重要。</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无论如何，这纯粹是我的看法。</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; :)<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">它相当鼓舞人心，就像你所说的那样具有转化性。</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">对，没错。</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; LongChen <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">现在对临在有了更深的理解。</span>
:)<br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白了，那为什么呢？</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但我认为，他关于如何进入临在的方式在书中描述得不够清楚，而且他也把</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">纯观察者</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">误认为了纯觉知。</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白了。</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但我觉得，他关于如何进入临在的方式书中并未被清楚地描述。</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">怎么会呢？</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我没有那本书。</span> :)<br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">什么？</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt;
Eckhart Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的书呢。</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是啊</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我读过，是我堂兄传给我的。</span> :)<br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">哦。</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你读了多少页？</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">哈哈</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你堂兄是佛教徒吧？</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是的</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">算是吧。</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白了。</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那你读了多少页？</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但他跟我谈了很多，所以我让他把书传给我。</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">哦，明白了。</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我喜欢读这本书</span>……<br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白了。</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但它并不能完整呈现</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的要义。</span> :)<br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白了</span>……<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">它以纯粹存在的方式呈现了这一点。</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">类似于用</span>“Being”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这样的词？</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不是</span>……<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">道元是如何表达的？</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不确定</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; :P<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你知道毗婆舍那（意思是观察如其本然的实相）吗？</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">看过一些相关文章，</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但我对它还了解不多。</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白了。</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">更像是观察每个念头之类？</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">或是感受呼吸？</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">它更多的是关于注意当下。</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">甚至是感知你双脚触地的感觉。</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">嗯，</span>Eckhart Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">确实提到过要把注意力直接指向心理情绪状态、身体等。</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是的。</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但那并不是我现在要讨论的部分。</span>
:)<br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白了。</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那么，究竟何谓光明与清明？</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">又何谓空性？</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">知而不执</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">吗？</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当两者合一时，一下子是什么</span>……<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不会告诉你。</span> :P<br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">哈哈。</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">表达那种无法言说的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">究竟是什么？</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; :)<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">听而无听者</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的最生动含义又是什么？</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">成为听觉本身。</span><br />
&lt;<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>&gt; ?<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">每一刻都处于完全的融入状态，但究竟是什么？</span><br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">空谈无益。</span> :)<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那会成为你前进的障碍。</span><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"John Tan on Eckhart: <a href="http://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2021/10/the-power-of-now-by-eckhart-tolle.html" target="_new">http://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2021/10/the-power-of-now-by-eckhart-tolle.html</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle: the Audiobook on Youtube<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">ReplyRemove Preview4m<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Labels: Eckhart Tolle, I AMness, View and Path |<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle: the Audiobook on Youtube<br />
Soh<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">FriendsSoh:<br />
A book I give to everybody whether he or she is a Buddhist, Christian, Hindu,
Muslim, atheist, agnostic, as long as they are open to spirituality. Audiobook
spoken by Eckhart Tolle.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Also related:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">John Tan, April 2006, "It is a great book and very
inspiring. I enjoy reading Eckhart Tolle's books too. Smile<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">...<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">But "The Power of Now" is not meant to be a Sutra
about ultimate reality.<br />
In terms of the touch of Presence, I prefer Toni Packer (Soh: see <a href="http://www.awakeningtoreality.com/search/label/Toni%20Packer" target="_new">http://www.awakeningtoreality.com/search/label/Toni%20Packer</a>)
and Joan Tollifson (see: <a href="https://www.joantollifson.com/waking.html" target="_new">https://www.joantollifson.com/waking.html</a>). Though their
books are not as inspiring.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">...<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hi Isis,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Not exactly so. I AMness is a transcendental experience
where consciousness is directly perceived as a pure sense of Existence. The
experience is intuitive and beyond the realm of thought. It is a non-dual and
precious experience of pure consciousness. The problem lies in personifying
this experience which is a mental state into an entity 'Self' with inherent
existence.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">....<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Session Close: Sun Apr 16 02:54:40 2006<br />
d to enjoy "the power of now" pretty much.<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; haha ya<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; it is a good read. I like his book too.<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; icic<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; But in terms of experience of Presence, the expression of
luminosity will not be just that. :)<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; oic<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; how come<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; but eckhart tolle shld know what to write right?<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; hmm...i do not know. The expression is more like "I
AM". :)<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; u mean eckhart tolle's?<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; yes.<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; ic ya i agree<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; so how diff are his to the others in terms of expression of
luminosity<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; btw wat about jesus? lol<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; try Zen Master Dogen. :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">&lt;^john^&gt; The idea of God is personal. :)<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; there is a deep sense of individuality.<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; oic then isit like eckhart tolle? u mentioned he had a deep
sense of individuality<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; This is the sense of "I AMness".<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; oic<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; The experience of divinity through this way will result in that.<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; oic<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; pure awareness is different.<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; There is the presence, but the clarity and luminosity aspect is
emphasis<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; and most importantly, the emptiness aspect of reality<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; luminosity and emptiness must result in the spontaneous arising<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; oic..<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; i tink makes sense to me<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; so..<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; in eckhart tolle's book<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; what words do u feel have a deep sense of individuality<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; it is the description quite similar to longchen descriptions. :)<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; oic<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; he will understand it.<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; ya true<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; i asked him<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; u got read his forum?<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; ic<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; nope<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; <a href="http://simpo.proboards20.com/index.cgi?board=insight&amp;action=display&amp;thread=1144668006" target="_new">http://simpo.proboards20.com/index.cgi?board=insight&amp;action=display&amp;thread=1144668006</a><br />
&lt;Presence&gt; I have his books.<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; In my opinion, it is so-so. I think enlightenment is not as
easy as he had described. Basically his entire book revolve around the subject
of the Presence.<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; But, I think, the way of entering Presence is not clearly
described in his book. And I think, he also mistaken 'I AM/pure observer' for
pure awareness.<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; Also, our life don't not come to a standstill after
enlightenment. We still continue to learn new things and deepen in
understanding. In a way, i feel the book built up false hopes. Healing is also
equally important.<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; Anyway, this is purely my opinion.<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; :)<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; it is quite inspirational and like what u said transformative.<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; ya true<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; longchen has a deeper understanding of Presence now. :)<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; oic how come<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; But, I think, the way of entering Presence is not clearly
described in his book. And I think, he also mistaken 'I AM/pure observer' for
pure awareness.<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; icic<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; But, I think, the way of entering Presence is not clearly
described in his book. --&gt; how come ?<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; I don't have the book. :)<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; huh???<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; eckhart tolle's book leh<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; yeah...i read it when my cousin passed it to me. :)<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; oh<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; u read how many pages<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; hahaha<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; ur cousin is buddhist isit<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; yes...sort of<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; oic<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; then u read how many pages<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; but he told me a lot about him so i told him to pass me the
book.<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; orh icic<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; i enjoy reading it..<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; oic<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; but it cannot present the 'gist' of Presence. :)<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; icic..<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; It has presented it in the pure sense of existence manner.<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; words like 'Being'?<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; nope...<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; how dogen present it?<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; not sure<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; :P<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; you know about vipassana meditation?<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; read a few articles about it<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; but still i dun know much about it<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; ic.<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; more like observing each thought etc?<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; or feeling the breathing?<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; it is more about noticing the moment.<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; even sensing ur feet touching the ground<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; hmm eckhart tolle does speak of directing attention to the
mental emotional state, direct attention to body, etc<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; yes<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; but that is not the part i m toking about. :)<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; oic<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; what is exactly the luminosity and clarity about?<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; and what is emptiness?<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; knowing without grasping?<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; and when the 2 becomes one, what is it in a single blow...<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; nope.<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; don't tell u. :P<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; lol<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; What is this in expressible 'Presence'?<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; :)<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; what is meant by hearing without a hearer in its most vivid
form?<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; becoming the hearing itself<br />
&lt;Presence&gt; ?<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; every moment is in complete absorption, but what is it?<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; It is no good to speculate. :)<br />
&lt;^john^&gt; it will become an obstruction of ur progress.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">[<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span><o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">会话开始：</span>2006</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年</span>5</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">月</span>12</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">日</span> 00:50:26</b><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：网址是什么？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：</span><br />
<a href="http://buddhism.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&amp;thread_id=185686" target="_new">http://buddhism.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&amp;thread_id=185686</a><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：你之前的问题是什么来着？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：</span>[00:39]
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：</span>——<br />
[00:39] <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：根据</span>
Eckhart Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在书中多个地方的说法，一个人可能需要经历强烈的苦难，才会被</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">迫使</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">活在当下，从而证悟，这在某种程度上与</span> Eckhart Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本人经历相似。</span><br />
[00:39] <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：而且我还想问，为什么有些像</span>
Eckhart Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这样的人，虽然从未接触过任何灵性教导，却突然通过强烈的苦难证悟？为什么那些有自杀倾向的人却从未证悟？</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">笑</span><br />
[00:39] <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：</span>------------<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：所以你是说，大多数人只有在经历了某种强烈的苦难之后才开始探询？</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：那只是对意识的第一次直接感知。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白了。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：但很快这种体验就会被扭曲。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>LongChen <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也有类似的体验。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白</span>……<br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：而且只体验到了光明的那一面。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：为了突破并更彻底地理解光明的层面，必须经历无我的体验。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白了</span>……<br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：那就是个体性的消亡。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：意思是说，是一种既显现了无个体性与个体性清明，但不等同于空性本质的状态。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白</span>……<br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：如果我们能在这一阶段中安住下来，那已是极大成就。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：这是一个非二元的模式。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：对。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：而当心灵变得如镜般明亮时，可能会因专注于光明而产生神通。</span>
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^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：但不要停留在那个阶段。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：</span>Eckhart
Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">得了神通吗？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：笑</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：只有佛教中讲解缘起条件才会如此。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：嗯，对。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：那是通向真正解脱的道路。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：印度教详细讲解了光明的层面，但为何会被误认为是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">大我</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">真我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：我那位台湾师父很久以前就拥有非常强大的神通，但我的师傅嘱咐他不要停留在那个阶段，直到智慧证悟出现。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：是的。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：嗯，因为没有空性教导？</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：佛陀对这一阶段非常了解，也知道哪些事物是看不见的。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白</span>……<br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：正是般若智慧使人得解脱，</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：但它也要求必须具备这种光明、这种非二元模式来理解空性。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：这不是一种知识的形式。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：所以你是说，必须先进入非二元模式，然后才能证悟空性？</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：为了真正证悟空性而发生。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：它是自内而发的，</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：不是作为一种知识的形式。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：而是首先以概念的形式被领会为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">什么是空性</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白</span>……<br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：当沉浸于观察时，那只是纯粹的感觉、那是不动的临在，它就是那种</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">知</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的体现，能够理解空性。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：但那种</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">知</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本身还没有完全证悟空性？</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：那不是通过测量和比较得出的知识形式。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：有一种直接、直觉的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">知</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，它来自与主体的合一。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：对，那就是所谓的非二元模式。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：？</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：它通过全然的投入和沉浸来</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">知道</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白</span>……<br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：让那种感觉缓缓浮现，每一部分都是现实、直接、生动且清晰的。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：就像爱一样。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白</span>……<br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：当意识摆脱</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">后，就永远是他者。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：当某事物产生而又没有我时，那是你的念头还是我的？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：都不是。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>Pathie <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不再担任版主了吗？</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>:)<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：对，她挺忙的</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">反正她也并不真的想当版主，之前问过我好几次。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：你想当版主？</span>
:P<br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：当然不，我会比她更糟糕的。</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span>:)<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：哈哈，对。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：没时间，也不希望最终陷入口角。</span>
:P<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：好。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：但你们大家真的都很有帮助。</span>
:)<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：</span>:P<br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：你有没有读过关于</span>
cittamatra <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的东西？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：没有。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：</span>cittamatra
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">呢？</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：嗯</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你知道什么是</span> rang tong <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">和</span> shen tong <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">吗？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：听过。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：是一个更强调佛性，另一个更强调空性吗？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：这是藏传佛教的说法。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：一个强调佛性并非空，而除去我们的本性外，一切皆空。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：是指第一个还是第二个？</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：另一个则认为，连我们的佛性也皆空。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：</span>[01:25]
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：一个强调佛性并非空，而除去我们的本性外，一切皆空。</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是</span> rang tong <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">还是</span> shen tong<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：那你支持哪种？</span>
:P<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：第二个？</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我认为</span> shen
tong <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">他性空</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：而</span> rang
tong <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">则认为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一切皆空</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：那你怎么看？</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：在我看来，两种观点都对。</span>
:) <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我一直在冥想</span>……<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：两种怎么都对？</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：这只是我的经验。</span>
:)<br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：根本无需害怕消解到</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：嗯，但这两种观点难道不矛盾吗？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：怎么可能两者都对？</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我该怎么说呢。</span>
:P<br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：等等</span>……<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：好。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：你知道哪种观点更被接受吗？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：我想藏传佛教的不同宗派支持的可能不同，像宁玛派更偏</span>
shen tong——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">格鲁派更偏</span> rang
tong<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">？</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：不尽然，我觉得</span>
rang tong <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">更为普遍。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：但我个人偏好</span>
shen tong<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span> :)<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白，为什么？</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：因为当同时体验到光明与空性时，就正如所描述的那样。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：那</span> rang
tong <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">呢？</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：但</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一切皆空</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也很重要，而且所有语言都无法表达终极，只能予以否定。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白</span>……<br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：这里重要的是要知道一个点，我相信其中有其道理。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：等等</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">换个话题。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：你在看节目吗？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：什么点？</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：是的。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>“duan
chang jian”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（断常见）</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>:P<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：因为如果我们理解得当，空性就是一种健康的否定。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：你知道道教吗？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白</span>……<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：对？</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我曾告诉过你</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">消解至无</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：是的。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：因为真正的道家大师知道那会达到道，</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：并体验到真正的自性力量，即</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">自然而然</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>“zhi ran”<br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：一种自然而然不断生长的力量</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：自性自然涌现</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白</span>……<br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：自然的灵光。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：所以这种消解正是基于这种理解，因为他们已经体验过了。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：他们不怕告诉他们的弟子：消解至无！</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白</span>……<br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：只要不是理论上的，而是真正修行，他们就会知道。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：道必须在自然而然中体验。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：消解至无</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这不就是佛教所说的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">心灵净化</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">吗？</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：是的。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：所谓净化，就是空性的净化。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：但</span>
shentong <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也不是错的。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：没有积极的语言，很多人难以理解。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白</span>……<br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：但我们不应把它误解为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">大我</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">真我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是痛苦的根源，</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：无论我们处于哪个阶段。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：因此，必须谨慎使用这个词。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白</span>……<br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我们可以达到非二元的阶段，但仍未证悟空性本质；</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：而我们却把条件起源看作是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白</span>……<br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：这就是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">陷落</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：但不要把</span>
sheng tong <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">和</span> rang
tong <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的话题扯进来。</span> :)<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：哈哈哈</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：我不会的。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：但无论如何，为什么？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：我觉得新加坡论坛里很少有人讨论那种话题。</span>
:P<br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>:)<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：嗯，我是说</span>……<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：为什么不能讨论</span>
sheng tong <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">和</span> rang
tong <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">呢？</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：当然可以讨论。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：只是我不希望大家因各自的修行而过于兴奋、做出不必要的评论。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白</span>……<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：关于</span> shen
tong <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">和</span> rang
tong <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的问题</span>——<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：这种关于见解分裂的现象在除金刚乘</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">藏传之外的传统中是否存在？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：比如中国大乘？或甚至是南传佛教？</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：对于已证悟的人来说，做出负面评论和评判是不好的。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我得走了</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">保重。</span> :)<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：好。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（无此昵称）</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：你有</span>
Eckhart Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的《</span>Stillness
Speaks<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">》吗？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：有。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：我已经读完那本书有一段时间了。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：什么？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：顺便问一下，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：你的</span> Toni
Packer <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的书是从哪里买的？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：因为我怀疑新加坡的书店没有那本。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>‘Stillness
Speaks’ <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是后期写的吗？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：写于</span>2003<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但主要是</span> Eckhart Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">多年来在笔记中收集的短句集，颇似一部经文。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：她的书非常流行，我想我是从</span>
Taka <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那里买的。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白，是什么时候？</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：大约</span>1.5<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年前。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：你买的是哪本？</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：所以《</span>Stillness
Speaks<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">》是写在《当下的力量》之后的吗？</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：还有《</span>The
Wonder of Presence<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">》？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：无论如何，</span>Eckhart
Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">最新的书我想是《</span>A
New Earth<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">》，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：我想是</span>2005<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年出版的？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：那本书非常受欢迎，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：几乎与《当下的力量》一样流行，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：但我没买，因为我没看到它。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：《</span>The
Wonder of Presence<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">》？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：《</span>The
Wonder of Presence<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">》，明白</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我一直在找那本书</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">会尝试在别处找找。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：对我来说，</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的清晰表达非常好。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白</span>……<br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：虽然没有那么鼓舞人心。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我还没有读过关于</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">如是</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>thusness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）的书。</span>
:)<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：你最近在读什么吗？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：是吗？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：怎么回事？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：你写东西吗？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：呵呵</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：当然没有。</span> :P<br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：也许没有什么能写出来</span>……
:)<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：只有在经文和诗中才能找到。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白，就像什么诗，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：以及什么经文？</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我喜欢</span>
cittamatra <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的教义。</span> : )<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：但总觉得还差那么一点。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：差在哪？</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：就</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">如是</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的概念</span>…… :)<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：哦</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：嗯，那有没有哪首诗或哪部经文谈到</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">如是</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">？</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：你可以看看道元禅师的教导。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白</span>……<br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：这取决于个人。</span> :
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<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：你觉得《</span>Stillness
Speaks<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">》怎样？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：相当不错</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但如果有选择，我会先选《</span>A New Earth<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">》。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：为什么？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：因为《</span>Stillness
Speaks<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">》的篇幅比较短，更多的是短句集合。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：</span>*<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">相对来说篇幅较短。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：嗯，取决于你喜欢什么，呵呵。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>: )<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：所以</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我喜欢真正、实用的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">体验</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，即使它与我自己的体验不完全一致。</span> : )<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：你明天</span>
Vesak <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">节会去哪里吗？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白</span>……<br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：今天。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>:P<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：今天，嗯。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：</span>:P<br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：带我孩子出去。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：明白。</span><br />
^john^<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我得走了</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">保重。</span> : )<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：好。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在：晚安。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（无此昵称）</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">会话结束：</span>2006</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年</span>5</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">月</span>12</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">日</span> 02:42:38</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(7:14 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：不要偏离佛法。</span><br />
(7:14 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：好。</span><br />
(7:14 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白。</span><br />
(7:14 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：偏离佛法是什么意思？</span><br />
(7:14 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：就是三法印。</span><br />
(7:14 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：但如果介绍</span>
Eckhart Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这样的书也可以吧？</span><br />
(7:14 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白。</span><br />
(7:15 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我觉得</span>
Eckhart Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的书非常鼓舞人心，其体验的深度在那里。只不过我能与</span>
Toni <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的体验产生共鸣。</span><br />
(7:16 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：她提出的问题和清晰度，我与她深深共鸣。</span><br />
(7:16 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(7:16 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span><br />
(7:16 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我觉得</span>
Eckhart Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的体验深度在那里。</span><br />
(7:16 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我希望下一本书能有我想要的东西。</span>
: )<br />
(7:16 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白，你想要什么？</span><br />
(7:17 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>Eckhart
Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的书是的。但我觉得不及</span>
Toni <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那个层次。那是我的看法，</span>Toni
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的书所表达的几乎达到如镜版的光芒万丈</span>(mirror
bright)<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，但我就是无法理解某些东西。</span><br />
(7:18 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(7:18 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：无法理解什么？</span><br />
(7:18 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：关于空性，总觉得有缺失。</span><br />
(7:18 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：起初我以为这应该是一个自然的进程。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(8:29 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：很多人写作只能达到</span>
Toni <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那个层次</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我在寻找一些无方所</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">非局限性</span>(Non Local)<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">体验。</span><br />
(8:31 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：回来</span><br />
(8:32 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：你说的无方所</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">非局限性体验是什么意思？</span><br />
(8:32 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：为什么很多人只能写到</span>
Toni <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那个层次？</span><br />
(8:35 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：禅师拥有那种清晰度。而对于俗家人来说，我很少看到有人拥有那种清晰度。因此，当他们达到那种清晰度之后，很难写出其他东西。不幸的是，真正的禅师并不多言。</span>
: )<br />
(8:35 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：当你倾听时，声音就在外面</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我们能听多远？</span><br />
(8:36 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：是指物理距离上吗？</span><br />
(8:36 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：是的。</span><br />
(8:37 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：不知道啦，需要测量</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">哈哈</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在相对层面上。</span><br />
(8:37 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：笑</span><br />
(8:37 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：等书出来再说</span>……<br />
(8:37 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：嗯？？</span><br />
(8:39 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：所以你是说</span>
Toni Packer <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">没有谈到无方所</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">非局限性？</span><br />
(8:39 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我不知道。不清楚她是否有那种体验。</span>
:P<br />
(8:39 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span><a href="http://www.heartspace.org/misc/IndraNet.html" target="_new">http://www.heartspace.org/misc/IndraNet.html</a><br />
(8:39 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>4. </b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无方所</span>/</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">非局限性</span> (Non Locality)</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Indra's Net <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">撕裂了对外界固态、固定宇宙的假设或归因。一个宝石能从无限另一端反射另一个宝石的光的能力，对于线性、理性思维来说是难以理解的。所有节点仅仅是反射，表明没有哪一点是某种单一源头的起点。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(8:39 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：那么你看过谈无方所</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">非局限性的书吗？</span><br />
(8:40 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：这真有意思</span>……<br />
(8:40 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：《华严经》。</span><br />
(8:40 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：以及</span>
Indra's Net<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
(8:41 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span><a href="http://buddhism.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&amp;thread_id=129929" target="_new">http://buddhism.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&amp;thread_id=129929</a><br />
(8:44 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：你看过《超人》吗？</span><br />
(8:44 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：是的。</span><br />
(8:45 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：有一段他升出地球大气层并倾听</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">他听到了所有</span>……<br />
(8:45 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我喜欢那一段。</span><br />
(8:45 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>:)<br />
(8:45 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(8:45 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：怎么会呢？</span><br />
(8:45 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：就像那样</span>……<br />
(8:45 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span><br />
(8:45 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哈哈哈</span><br />
(8:46 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：像观音一样</span> :P<br />
(8:46 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：是的。</span> :)<br />
(8:46 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我师父说过类似的话</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我没太明白</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">他说当你修行到一定层次时，在另一个宇宙中，当一朵花绽放时，你就会知道，</span><br />
(8:46 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：记不太清了，</span><br />
(8:46 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我想不是指超自然能力。</span><br />
(8:47 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：你师父是谁？</span><br />
(8:47 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>ven shen
kai<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
(8:47 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：是</span> sheng
kai <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">吗？</span><br />
(8:47 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：好的。</span><br />
(8:47 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>teacher
chen <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是他的法嗣，负责传授一些重要法门。</span><br />
(8:48 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那</span> li zhu <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">老师呢？</span><br />
(8:48 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：是的。</span><br />
(8:48 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哦，地方师父。</span><br />
(8:48 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：所以当你说师父时，通常指的是</span>
ven shen kai<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">？</span><br />
(8:48 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：是的。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(9:02 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">观音的修行是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">二根元通</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，无论世间有多少众生呼唤她，她都能听到并救度他们。因此，如果我们要在这个世界上成佛，即使在另一个宇宙中有花绽放，我们也会立刻知道，然后我们便会成佛。</span>”<br />
(9:02 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我想他在</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">开示录</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">系列中也提到过另一个宇宙中花绽放的事。</span><br />
(9:03 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：在</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">开示录</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">系列中。</span><br />
(9:03 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白。你真是资源丰富。</span>
:)<br />
(9:04 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哈哈，因为我最近又听了一遍这话。</span><br />
(9:04 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：所以我记住了。</span><br />
(9:04 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白。</span><br />
(9:08 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：观音能倾听，因为她能通达</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">自性之海</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
(9:08 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：那是不是某种超自然能力？</span><br />
(9:09 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：这可能是通过深度清明实现的</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">与解除结（<b>结</b>（</span><a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%A2%B5%E8%AA%9E" title="梵语"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">梵语</span></a><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>sa<span style="font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;">ṃ</span>yojana<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，</span><a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%B7%B4%E5%88%A9%E8%AA%9E" title="巴利语"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">巴利语</span></a><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>sa<span style="font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;">ṃ</span>yojana<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，</span>saññojana<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），又译为<b>结使</b>、<b>结缠</b>，佛教术语，是指一个人内心意识中潜在的</span><a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%85%A9%E6%83%B1_(%E4%BD%9B%E6%95%99)" title="烦恼 (佛教)"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">烦恼</span></a><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，它会产生障碍，将人捆绑在</span><a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%BC%AA%E8%BF%B4" title="轮回"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">轮回</span></a><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">中，妨碍一个人得到</span><a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%A7%A3%E8%84%AB" title="解脱"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">解脱</span></a><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，带来</span><a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%8B%A6_(%E4%BD%9B%E6%95%99)" title="苦 (佛教)"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">痛苦</span></a><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。斩断结缚，就可以进入</span><a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%B6%85%E6%A7%83" title="涅槃"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">涅槃</span></a><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。因结缚而出生的五种最主要的障碍，被称为</span><a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BA%94%E8%93%8B" title="五盖"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">五盖</span></a><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。）有关。</span><br />
(9:09 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白。</span><br />
(9:09 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：但正如我所说，现在不必深入探讨。</span>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">会话开始：</span>2006</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年</span>8</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">月</span>07</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">日</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span></b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">星期一</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(5:33 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：在《</span>A
New Earth<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">》中有一章，</span>Eckhart
Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">提到过，触摸杯子或其他物品时，不带念头也不为其命名，然后感知它</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你读过那章吗？</span><br />
(5:37 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我前几天在</span>
Borders <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">看到过。</span><br />
(5:37 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白。</span><br />
(5:37 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：那是什么？</span><br />
(5:38 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：对我来说，那是非常重要的一章。</span>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal">(7:03 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：其实体验</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">很重要。</span><br />
(7:03 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(7:04 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我发现，那些有这种体验的人如果能谦卑下来，他们对佛陀教义的理解会更深刻。</span><br />
(7:04 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白。</span><br />
(7:04 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：因为他们正处于最有资格告诉别人是否超越那个阶段的位置</span>……<br />
(7:04 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：这是一个自然的进程。</span><br />
(7:04 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：而我认为，佛陀很了解这个问题，也正经历过类似的过程。</span><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal">(7:23 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哇</span>……Eckhart
Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">现在几乎成了世界性导师。</span><br />
(7:23 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哈哈，为什么？</span><br />
(7:23 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：对，的确如此。</span><br />
(7:24 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：他的书非常流行</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">真奇怪，怎么会呢？</span><br />
(7:24 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：而且读起来也很不错。</span><br />
(7:25 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：他是从个人体验中写出来的，极具启发性。</span>
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(7:25 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(7:27 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我得走了</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">再见。</span><br />
(7:27 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：再见。</span><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal">(12:19 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：闭上你的眼睛，感受一下，就像</span>
Eckhart Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">所说的那样，感受一下</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">感受地板的硬度</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就像在正念中一样，那</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">硬度</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是你的、我的，还是地板的？</span><br />
(12:21 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：都不是。</span><br />
(12:21 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>:)<br />
(12:21 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：如果你能超越标签而变得无映像（</span>imageless<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），就会有某种东西涌现。</span><br />
(12:22 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：当你不执着于这种涌现时，你就能渗透进物体之中。</span><br />
(12:23 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：物体的本质是意识。</span><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal">(11:52 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我宁愿读</span>
Eckhart Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的书。</span> :)<br />
(11:52 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：笑</span><br />
(11:53 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：就像简单地触摸一个杯子，就能告诉你他体验的深度和他究竟处于什么状态。</span><br />
(11:53 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：也就是说，你认为</span>
D.T. Suzuki <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的译本挺不错。</span><br />
(11:53 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白。</span><br />
(11:54 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：而且我可以告诉你，至少《楞伽经》的前四章都在讨论这一点。</span>
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(11:54 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：当然，不是关于空性的那部分。</span>
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(11:54 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(11:55 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>Eckhart
Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的《</span>A New
Earth<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">》以及那种关于当下体验的实用方法，会让你至少理解前四章的要点。</span>
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(11:55 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(11:56 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：那之后呢？</span><br />
(11:56 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：抱歉，是前六章。</span><br />
(11:56 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白。</span><br />
(11:56 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：只有关于空性显现的部分不足，虽然它谈到了显现。</span><br />
(11:57 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：而且只要读了，就能知道他究竟处于哪一阶段。</span><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal">(12:04 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我一直在读那本书，并试图用我自己的方式表达。</span>
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(12:04 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(12:06 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：并不是很多人能有那种清晰的体验，而且还愿意写出来解释。</span><br />
(12:07 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>Krishnamurti
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是其中之一。</span><br />
(12:07 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>Eckhart
Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">则简单、直接且实用。</span><br />
(12:07 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(12:08 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>Krishnamurti
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">真的理解空性吗？</span><br />
(12:08 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：你说的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">清晰与真实体验</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是什么意思？你说有许多开悟的层次？</span><br />
(12:08 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：那不是关于空性，而是他们的体验。</span><br />
(12:08 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白。</span><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal">(12:10 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：禅修、道元的教导，以及许多禅师的诗都非常美妙。</span><br />
(12:11 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：至于藏传佛教，我喜欢瑜伽行派。</span><br />
(12:11 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：真的很难找到能清晰表达那超越符号境界的作品。</span><br />
(12:13 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：而且对无我（我见）的概念表达得也完全清楚。</span><br />
(12:14 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(12:14 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：抱歉，他那本书的标题是《</span>I
Am That<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">》。</span><br />
(12:15 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>Toni
Packer <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也一样</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但写作风格能够更进步，如</span> Eckhart Tolle<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
(12:16 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：有没有哪本</span>
Dogen <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">写的好书？</span><br />
(12:18 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：不太确定</span>…… <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1590300246/sr=1-9/qid=1155140179/ref=sr_1_9/102-2935529-0357719?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books" target="_new">http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1590300246/sr=1-9/qid=1155140179/ref=sr_1_9/102-2935529-0357719?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books</a>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal">(11:59 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我喜欢</span>
Ken Wilber <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的《</span>One
Taste<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">》。</span><br />
(11:59 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：他称那些评论他作品的人都是白痴。</span><br />
(11:59 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>:P<br />
(11:59 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：笑</span><br />
(11:59 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我是说负面评论。</span><br />
(11:59 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哈哈哈</span><br />
(11:59 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：为什么？</span><br />
(11:59 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：太小气了</span>……<br />
(11:59 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：笑</span><br />
(12:00 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：因为他们不理解他</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">毕竟他也是人</span> :P<br />
(12:00 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：你可以看出他的挣扎。</span><br />
(12:00 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哈哈哈</span><br />
(12:00 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：他的开悟之路</span>……<br />
(12:00 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：笑</span><br />
(12:00 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白。</span><br />
(12:01 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：其实我很喜欢</span>
Eckhart Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的书。</span><br />
(12:02 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：虽然我觉得他的体验没有那么彻底。</span><br />
(12:02 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我认为那样更安全。</span>
: )<br />
(12:02 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(12:03 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：安全？为什么？</span><br />
(12:03 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：因为某些体验被认为相当危险，可能会造成很大伤害。</span><br />
(12:04 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：只有非常有资质的师父才能传授这些方法。</span><br />
(12:04 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：因为这种体验被视为一种改变状态的体验，可能非常危险</span>……<br />
(12:04 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(12:05 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：比如什么样的体验？</span><br />
(12:05 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我认为，梦寐和梦中阶段的临在体验不应该被传授</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">而应该只讲空性显现的本质</span>……<br />
(12:06 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：然后只专注于慈悲、智慧、平等心、耐心。</span><br />
(12:06 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(12:06 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：就这些</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不要过分追求体验</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一切会自然而然到来</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">只要时机成熟。</span><br />
(12:06 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(12:06 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：智慧不是禅修的阶段</span>……<br />
(12:08 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：当我们的执着减弱，智慧（符号束缚消解）增长时，我们自然会体验到那种灿烂的临在，并推动进入梦与无梦状态的所有相关阶段。</span><br />
(12:09 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：根本无需做什么</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">过于焦虑某个成就或阶段极其危险。</span><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal">(1:16 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：起初我想买</span>
Ken Wilber <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的书</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但我觉得复印也行。</span> :P<br />
(1:16 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：只要有那</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一尝</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">与</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">万物理论</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
(1:16 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：笑</span><br />
(1:16 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：因为它更偏向印度教而非佛教。</span><br />
(1:16 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白。</span><br />
(1:16 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：你是怎么复印的？</span><br />
(1:16 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：图书馆？</span><br />
(1:17 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我在找那些超越无我体验，并将空性以非中心性和无方所</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">非局限性视角呈现的书。</span><br />
(1:17 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我想知道是否有哪位修行者曾体验过，然后用文字表达出来。</span>
:P<br />
(1:17 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(1:17 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：目前还没有？</span><br />
(1:17 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>Ken
Wilber <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也从未写过吗？</span><br />
(1:17 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：不完全是超越无我的体验，而是更彻底地理解无我。</span><br />
(1:18 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白。</span><br />
(1:18 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：而且还能直观体验空性本质。</span><br />
(1:18 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(1:21 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：像</span> Eckhart
Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这样的书都不错，绝不应该过分强调任何一面。</span><br />
(1:21 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(1:21 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：要简明、清晰、明了。</span><br />
(1:21 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(1:21 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：但我在寻找更多。</span><br />
(1:22 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我对那些多年真切体验过无我的人很感兴趣</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">呵呵。</span><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal">(12:26 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：坐禅非常重要，它能帮助你静心并提高觉知。</span><br />
(12:26 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(12:29 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：你必须先学会使身体静止，那种类似于身体下半部的体验必须扩展到全身。</span><br />
(12:29 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白。</span><br />
(12:29 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我需要先经历某种定那样的体验吗？</span><br />
(12:29 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：第一次通常比较容易</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">呵呵</span>……<br />
(12:30 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：怎么会？</span><br />
(12:30 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哈哈哈</span><br />
(12:30 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：当你能使身体完全静止、坐着时，状态会稳定且安定。</span><br />
(12:30 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：然后就传到心上，</span><br />
(12:31 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：观察呼吸并使你的念头安定。</span><br />
(12:31 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(12:31 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：坚持练习，直到你能平息念头。</span><br />
(12:32 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：通过你的呼吸。</span><br />
(12:32 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(12:32 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：一旦你能使念头静止或平稳下来，就开始提高觉知</span>……<br />
(12:33 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(12:33 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：直到你能充分感受到你的各种感觉、味道、触感</span>……<br />
(12:34 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：去感受它们</span>……<br />
(12:34 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(12:34 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：如果可能的话，思考一下</span>
Buddhagosha <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">说的内容。</span><br />
(12:34 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白。</span><br />
(12:35 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：只有念头，而无思考者。</span><br />
(12:35 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：只有味道，而没有品尝者。</span><br />
(12:35 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(12:35 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：直到直接觉知显现。</span><br />
(12:35 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白。</span><br />
(12:35 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：如果可能的话，尽量在早晨</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">呵呵，或下午练习这法，不在夜间。</span><br />
(12:35 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：为什么不在夜间？</span><br />
(12:35 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：因为累吗？</span><br />
(12:36 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：不好。</span><br />
(12:36 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：只适合在早晨或傍晚。</span><br />
(12:36 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：为什么不夜间</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">笑</span><br />
(12:36 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：直到你能控制你的念头模式为止。</span><br />
(12:36 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白。</span><br />
(12:37 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：夜间就放松，做你平时做的事</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">比如上</span> IRC<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">、</span>MSN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">、论坛。</span><br />
(12:37 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：笑，好吧。</span><br />
(12:37 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：在清醒状态下，练习正念。</span><br />
(12:38 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：当你的双脚触地</span>……<br />
(12:38 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：当你的手触碰任何物体</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">花时间去感受</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就像</span> Eckhart Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在《当下的力量》和《</span>A New Earth<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">》中所说的那样。</span><br />
(12:38 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：当你咽下唾液时。</span><br />
(12:39 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(12:39 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：完全感受那种感觉</span>……<br />
(12:39 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(12:39 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：然后放松，夜间不要练习这法</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">直到早晨</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">直到有一天你告诉我，你明白了念头模式与平静之间的关系。</span><br />
(12:40 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白。</span><br />
(12:40 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：以及如何误把觉知与“我”混淆，以及它们之间的关系。</span><br />
(12:40 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(12:40 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：那么，何谓喜悦与清明？</span><br />
(12:40 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白。</span><br />
(12:41 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：当你体验到无我并完全明白什么是觉知时，告诉我为什么它是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一切</span>”……<br />
(12:41 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(12:42 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：挑战并超越念头若未正确修习，会是一段痛苦的体验。</span><br />
(12:43 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(12:43 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：因为我们一直在使用念头，而念头会不断出现，</span><br />
(12:43 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：所以不要低估它。</span><br />
(12:43 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白。</span><br />
(12:44 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：多锻炼</span>……<br />
(12:44 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：健康的身体有助于健康的心灵。</span><br />
(12:44 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白。</span><br />
(12:44 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：这会帮助你的修行。</span><br />
(12:44 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白。</span><br />
(12:45 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：当你能直接体验到时，告诉我你的体会；</span><br />
(12:45 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：当你能平息念头时，也告诉我</span>……<br />
(12:45 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(12:46 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：然后回到你的佛法中心（</span>dharma
center<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），并参与保持与法接触的活动。</span><br />
(12:46 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(12:46 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：好。</span><br />
(12:48 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：是的</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在禅修中，心中的内容并不重要，重要的是心的品质。</span><br />
(12:48 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：平和、喜悦、宁静、安详都不是心的内容。</span><br />
(12:49 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(12:49 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：即使在深度放松中，你也不想在心中闲聊，你只需放手。</span><br />
(12:49 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白。</span><br />
(12:49 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：对。</span><br />
(12:50 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：内容和意义根本不重要，</span><br />
(12:50 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：你不必理解任何东西，</span><br />
(12:50 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：根本无需理解。</span><br />
(12:50 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：所以不要担心，</span><br />
(12:50 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：只需感受那种感觉，</span><br />
(12:50 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：那原始的感觉。</span><br />
(12:50 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白。</span><br />
(12:51 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：但起初，你会思考，</span><br />
(12:51 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：什么是无我，</span><br />
(12:51 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：什么是直接觉知，</span><br />
(12:51 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：语言又是什么？</span><br />
(12:51 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：在禅修之前？</span><br />
(12:51 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白。</span><br />
(12:51 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：在禅修中，你肯定会问</span>……<br />
(12:52 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哦，好。</span><br />
(12:52 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白。</span><br />
(12:52 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：可以，但首先要平息心念，</span><br />
(12:52 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：在你思考之前。</span><br />
(12:52 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：当你思考时，也可以同时保持正念。</span><br />
(12:52 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白。</span><br />
(12:52 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：两者可以并行不悖，</span><br />
(12:52 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：这无关紧要。</span><br />
(12:53 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：当你体验到直接觉知时，概念和念头会逐渐被直接觉知所取代。</span><br />
(12:53 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(12:53 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：但你必须先以正念呼吸来平稳念头，</span><br />
(12:53 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：以掌控念头，</span><br />
(12:54 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：或者通过你的呼吸来平息念头。</span><br />
(12:54 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(12:55 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：你的考试是什么时候？</span><br />
(12:55 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：大约还有两周左右。</span><br />
(12:55 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：你最好开始学习</span>……<br />
(12:55 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：笑</span><br />
(12:55 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：是的，我知道，哈哈。</span><br />
(12:56 AM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：好，得走了</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">晚安。</span><br />
(12:56 AM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：晚安。</span><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">会话开始：</span>2006</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年</span>9</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">月</span>28</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">日</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span></b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">星期四</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(9:03 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>Eckhart
Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">论坛</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">很多人已达到</span>3<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">至</span>4<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">个层次，但第五层仍远超他们，只有</span> JonLS <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">达到了。</span><br />
(9:04 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(9:04 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：谁达到了</span>3<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">至</span>4<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">个层次？</span><br />
(9:04 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>Chelsy<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
(9:04 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(9:04 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：但她还不知道</span>
JonLS <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在谈什么</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">笑</span><br />
(9:04 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哈哈哈</span><br />
(9:04 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(9:05 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：她目前被业力倾向所阻，这需要相当长的时间，因为她对</span>
Eckhart Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">保持信任和尊重。</span><br />
(9:05 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal">(9:49 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我真是对</span>
ET <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">如何</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">触动</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这么多人生活感到惊讶。</span><br />
(9:49 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(9:49 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：对，哈哈</span>……<br />
(9:50 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：首先，超越标签和名称，去体验我们佛性。</span><br />
(9:50 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(9:57 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我真是惊叹于</span> ET
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">如何</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">触动</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这么多人的生命。</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你就是第二个</span>
ET <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">啦</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">呵呵</span><br />
(9:57 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：你脑袋怎么这么硬！</span><br />
(9:57 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哈哈，对。</span><br />
(10:02 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：佛陀的教法已经足够完整</span>……<br />
John <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">说：</span><br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">没有必要在其上添加任何东西。</span>”<br />
John <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">说：</span><br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">只需超越文化的限制，视其为指引即可。</span>”<br />
(10:03 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(10:04 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：唯一的办法是让</span>
ET <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">自己谈论</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无镜映</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span> :)<br />
(10:04 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：这样，他的追随者的问题就全都解决了。</span><br />
(10:04 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>…… ET <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">还在吗？</span><br />
(10:04 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：快了。</span> :)<br />
(10:05 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：那新地球呢？</span><br />
(10:05 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我是说那本新书。</span><br />
(10:05 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：一样。</span> :)<br />
(10:05 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(10:05 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：这就是我为什么没买</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">笑</span><br />
(10:09 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哈哈哈</span><br />
(10:09 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：你在和她说话？她也有同样的问题？</span><br />
(10:10 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：不。</span> :)<br />
(10:10 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我是说上次那次。</span><br />
(10:10 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哦，明白。</span><br />
(11:29 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：曾经说过关于</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无见证者</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的东西</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">希望我不会引起混乱</span>……:P<br />
(11:29 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：最好快点走！</span><br />
(11:29 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>LOL<br />
(11:29 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(11:30 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：晚安！</span><br />
(11:30 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：晚安。</span><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">会话开始：</span>2006</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年</span>9</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">月</span>29</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">日</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span></b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">星期五</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(3:06 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>Din
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">已完全明白我想传达给他的一切。</span>
:)<br />
(3:06 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：直接且直觉地。</span><br />
(3:06 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(3:06 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：你是说基于他在</span>
ET <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">论坛上的新帖？</span><br />
(3:06 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：对。</span> :)<br />
(3:06 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(3:07 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我真的为他感到高兴。他已经看到了无我，并开始直觉性地理解那些倾向，就像一次洞见。</span><br />
(3:07 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：这真是令人惊叹。</span><br />
(3:07 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(3:08 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：他是第一个体验到我所体验的一切，唯独没有</span>
DO<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（缘起）。</span> :)<br />
(3:08 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(3:08 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我认为</span> DO<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（缘起）会在稍后开始显现。</span><br />
(3:08 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(3:08 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：但这很难</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">看见</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span> :)<br />
(3:09 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">所以它会自然而然地到来。</span><br />
(3:09 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：一旦一个人达到无痕迹状态，就无法被追踪。</span><br />
(3:09 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：笑</span><br />
(3:09 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哈哈</span><br />
(3:09 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：你说的那是什么意思？</span><br />
(3:10 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>DO<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（缘起）是深刻而微妙的。不是仅凭任何达到非二元状态之人的言辞就能说明的。</span>
:)<br />
(3:10 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(3:10 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：所以你说如果他处于无痕状迹态，就没人能追踪到他？</span><br />
(3:10 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：如果他无痕。</span><br />
(3:11 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：一旦他处于</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无镜映</span>(no mirror reflecting)”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（的般若智），就没人知道他究竟是谁。</span> :P<br />
(3:11 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白。</span><br />
(3:11 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我还是不太懂。</span><br />
(3:11 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哈哈哈</span><br />
(3:12 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：不告诉你。</span> :P <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">没那么重要啦。</span><br />
(3:12 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我从《法句经》中读到，魔王无法追踪阿罗汉的续接意识，你说的是这个意思吗？</span><br />
(3:12 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：这就是你说的意思？</span><br />
(3:13 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：大致如此。</span> ;p<br />
(3:13 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哈哈哈</span><br />
(3:13 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：好。</span><br />
(3:26 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span><a href="http://www.aimwell.org/Books/Suttas/Dhammapada/04-Puppha/04-puppha.html#57" target="_new">http://www.aimwell.org/Books/Suttas/Dhammapada/04-Puppha/04-puppha.html#57</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">尊贵的</span>
Godhika <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">比因某种疾病未能入定，便用剃刀割断了喉咙；但就在临死之前，他修习了洞见并证悟了涅槃。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">魔王试图查找他的续接意识从何处产生。佛陀说，魔王无法追踪阿罗汉的续接意识。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.buddhanet.net/dhammapada/d_saints.htm" target="_new">http://www.buddhanet.net/dhammapada/d_saints.htm</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">第</span>92</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">节：圣者的本性无可指摘</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">  <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">对于那些不积累烦恼、善于反思食物之人，</span><br />
  <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">他们的境界是无名的，也是完美自由的虚空。</span><br />
  <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就如翱翔于天际的鸟儿，</span><br />
  <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">它们的飞行轨迹难以追踪。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">【解释】：充分认识到自然是空性且无对象的，心灵因无贪欲而不会留下痕迹，就如同鸟儿飞行的轨迹一样。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">第</span>93</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">节：阿罗汉的境界无法追踪</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">  <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">对于那些污染被消除、对食物不再执著之人，</span><br />
  <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">他们的境界也是无名且完美自由的虚空。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(3:26 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span><br />
  <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就如翱翔于天际的鸟儿，</span><br />
  <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">它们的飞行轨迹难以追踪。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">【解释】：如果一个人完全摆脱了内外驱动其行为的影响，并且对食物也不再执著，那么这种人便将心灵聚焦于空性、无对象以及思维的自由。这种圣者的道路正如同鸟儿在空中飞行般难以被追踪。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(3:28 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：对</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在稳定之后。</span> :P<br />
(3:28 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(3:30 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：告诉别人关于他开悟阶段的任何事都是毫无意义的，</span><br />
(3:30 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：只有亲身体验过的人才能知道。</span><br />
(3:31 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白。</span><br />
(3:32 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：就像我了解佛陀话语的深意</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">呵呵呵，而</span> Din <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也明白我的话</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">呵呵呵。</span><br />
(3:32 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：哈哈哈</span><br />
(3:33 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我一直说真话。</span>
:P<br />
(3:33 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：不知怎的，这话深深渗透进他的意识里。</span>
:)<br />
(3:33 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(3:33 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：条件也逐渐成熟。</span><br />
(3:33 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我在想</span> DO<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（缘起）究竟沉淀得有多深。</span><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span><o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoNormal">"John Tan on Eckhart: <a href="http://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2021/10/the-power-of-now-by-eckhart-tolle.html" target="_new">http://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2021/10/the-power-of-now-by-eckhart-tolle.html</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle: the Audiobook on Youtube<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">ReplyRemove Preview4m<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Labels: Eckhart Tolle, I AMness, View and Path |<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle: the Audiobook on Youtube
Soh<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">FriendsSoh: A book I give to everybody whether he or she is
a Buddhist, Christian, Hindu, Muslim, atheist, agnostic, as long as they are
open to spirituality. Audiobook spoken by Eckhart Tolle.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Also related:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">John Tan, April 2006, "It is a great book and very
inspiring. I enjoy reading Eckhart Tolle's books too. Smile<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">...<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">But "The Power of Now" is not meant to be a Sutra
about ultimate reality. In terms of the touch of Presence, I prefer Toni Packer
(Soh: see <a href="http://www.awakeningtoreality.com/search/label/Toni%20Packer" target="_new">http://www.awakeningtoreality.com/search/label/Toni%20Packer</a>)
and Joan Tollifson (see: <a href="https://www.joantollifson.com/waking.html" target="_new">https://www.joantollifson.com/waking.html</a>). Though their
books are not as inspiring.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">...<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hi Isis,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Not exactly so. I AMness is a transcendental experience
where consciousness is directly perceived as a pure sense of Existence. The
experience is intuitive and beyond the realm of thought. It is a non-dual and
precious experience of pure consciousness. The problem lies in personifying
this experience which is a mental state into an entity 'Self' with inherent
existence.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">....<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Session Close: Sun Apr 16 02:54:40 2006 d to enjoy "the
power of now" pretty much. &lt;Presence&gt; haha ya &lt;^john^&gt; it is a
good read. I like his book too. &lt;Presence&gt; icic &lt;^john^&gt; But in
terms of experience of Presence, the expression of luminosity will not be just
that. :) &lt;Presence&gt; oic &lt;Presence&gt; how come &lt;Presence&gt; but
eckhart tolle shld know what to write right? &lt;^john^&gt; hmm...i do not
know. The expression is more like "I AM". :) &lt;Presence&gt; u mean
eckhart tolle's? &lt;^john^&gt; yes. &lt;Presence&gt; ic ya i agree &lt;Presence&gt;
so how diff are his to the others in terms of expression of luminosity
&lt;Presence&gt; btw wat about jesus? lol &lt;^john^&gt; try Zen Master Dogen.
:)<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">&lt;^john^&gt; The idea of God is personal. :)
&lt;^john^&gt; there is a deep sense of individuality. &lt;Presence&gt; oic
then isit like eckhart tolle? u mentioned he had a deep sense of individuality
&lt;^john^&gt; This is the sense of "I AMness". &lt;Presence&gt; oic
&lt;^john^&gt; The experience of divinity through this way will result in that.
&lt;Presence&gt; oic &lt;^john^&gt; pure awareness is different. &lt;^john^&gt;
There is the presence, but the clarity and luminosity aspect is emphasis
&lt;^john^&gt; and most importantly, the emptiness aspect of reality
&lt;^john^&gt; luminosity and emptiness must result in the spontaneous arising
&lt;Presence&gt; oic.. &lt;Presence&gt; i tink makes sense to me
&lt;Presence&gt; so.. &lt;Presence&gt; in eckhart tolle's book &lt;Presence&gt;
what words do u feel have a deep sense of individuality &lt;^john^&gt; it is
the description quite similar to longchen descriptions. :) &lt;Presence&gt; oic
&lt;^john^&gt; he will understand it. &lt;Presence&gt; ya true &lt;Presence&gt;
i asked him &lt;Presence&gt; u got read his forum? &lt;^john^&gt; ic
&lt;^john^&gt; nope &lt;Presence&gt; <a href="http://simpo.proboards20.com/index.cgi?board=insight&amp;action=display&amp;thread=1144668006" target="_new">http://simpo.proboards20.com/index.cgi?board=insight&amp;action=display&amp;thread=1144668006</a>
&lt;Presence&gt; I have his books. &lt;Presence&gt; In my opinion, it is so-so.
I think enlightenment is not as easy as he had described. Basically his entire
book revolve around the subject of the Presence. &lt;Presence&gt; But, I think,
the way of entering Presence is not clearly described in his book. And I think,
he also mistaken 'I AM/pure observer' for pure awareness. &lt;Presence&gt;
Also, our life don't not come to a standstill after enlightenment. We still
continue to learn new things and deepen in understanding. In a way, i feel the
book built up false hopes. Healing is also equally important. &lt;Presence&gt;
Anyway, this is purely my opinion. &lt;^john^&gt; :) &lt;^john^&gt; it is quite
inspirational and like what u said transformative. &lt;Presence&gt; ya true
&lt;^john^&gt; longchen has a deeper understanding of Presence now. :)
&lt;Presence&gt; oic how come &lt;^john^&gt; But, I think, the way of entering
Presence is not clearly described in his book. And I think, he also mistaken 'I
AM/pure observer' for pure awareness. &lt;Presence&gt; icic &lt;Presence&gt;
But, I think, the way of entering Presence is not clearly described in his
book. --&gt; how come ? &lt;^john^&gt; I don't have the book. :)
&lt;Presence&gt; huh??? &lt;Presence&gt; eckhart tolle's book leh
&lt;^john^&gt; yeah...i read it when my cousin passed it to me. :)
&lt;Presence&gt; oh &lt;Presence&gt; u read how many pages &lt;Presence&gt;
hahaha &lt;Presence&gt; ur cousin is buddhist isit &lt;^john^&gt; yes...sort of
&lt;Presence&gt; oic &lt;Presence&gt; then u read how many pages &lt;^john^&gt;
but he told me a lot about him so i told him to pass me the book.
&lt;Presence&gt; orh icic &lt;^john^&gt; i enjoy reading it.. &lt;Presence&gt;
oic &lt;^john^&gt; but it cannot present the 'gist' of Presence. :)
&lt;Presence&gt; icic.. &lt;^john^&gt; It has presented it in the pure sense of
existence manner. &lt;Presence&gt; words like 'Being'? &lt;^john^&gt; nope...
&lt;^john^&gt; how dogen present it? &lt;Presence&gt; not sure &lt;Presence&gt;
:P &lt;^john^&gt; you know about vipassana meditation? &lt;Presence&gt; read a
few articles about it &lt;Presence&gt; but still i dun know much about it
&lt;^john^&gt; ic. &lt;Presence&gt; more like observing each thought etc?
&lt;Presence&gt; or feeling the breathing? &lt;^john^&gt; it is more about
noticing the moment. &lt;^john^&gt; even sensing ur feet touching the ground
&lt;Presence&gt; hmm eckhart tolle does speak of directing attention to the
mental emotional state, direct attention to body, etc &lt;^john^&gt; yes
&lt;^john^&gt; but that is not the part i m toking about. :) &lt;Presence&gt;
oic &lt;^john^&gt; what is exactly the luminosity and clarity about?
&lt;^john^&gt; and what is emptiness? &lt;Presence&gt; knowing without
grasping? &lt;^john^&gt; and when the 2 becomes one, what is it in a single blow...
&lt;^john^&gt; nope. &lt;^john^&gt; don't tell u. :P &lt;Presence&gt; lol
&lt;^john^&gt; What is this in expressible 'Presence'? &lt;^john^&gt; :)
&lt;^john^&gt; what is meant by hearing without a hearer in its most vivid
form? &lt;Presence&gt; becoming the hearing itself &lt;Presence&gt; ?
&lt;^john^&gt; every moment is in complete absorption, but what is it?
&lt;^john^&gt; It is no good to speculate. :) &lt;^john^&gt; it will become an
obstruction of ur progress.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Session Start: Wed Apr 19 21:51:33 2006 Session Ident:
JavaIRC Session Ident: JavaIRC (~actunoofl@bb220-255-177-93.singnet.com.sg)<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">&lt;JavaIRC&gt; why do u change ur nick to Presence?
&lt;JavaIRC&gt; :) &lt;Presence&gt; cos eckhart tolle's book mentions it quite
often :P &lt;JavaIRC&gt; lol &lt;JavaIRC&gt; :) &lt;Presence&gt; haha y u
suddenly ask &lt;JavaIRC&gt; there are few things u need to know about
presence. :P &lt;Presence&gt; oic.. wat are they &lt;JavaIRC&gt; when a person
is free from symbols and labels, he becomes intuitive, direct and natural.
&lt;Presence&gt; icic &lt;JavaIRC&gt; the sense of individuality disappears. What
comes next? &lt;Presence&gt; hmm &lt;Presence&gt; awareness becomes clear?
&lt;JavaIRC&gt; have not but there is a high degree of clarity.
&lt;Presence&gt; wat u mean by have not? &lt;Presence&gt; there is still
another stage u mean? &lt;JavaIRC&gt; Yes. &lt;Presence&gt; icic
&lt;JavaIRC&gt; There is the experience of Presence. &lt;JavaIRC&gt; even
"I Amness" is an experience of Presence. &lt;Presence&gt; oic
&lt;JavaIRC&gt; however at this stage, one will be able and understand non-dual
with certain depth. &lt;Presence&gt; icic.. &lt;JavaIRC&gt; directness will
eliminate the illusion of subject-object division. :) &lt;Presence&gt; icic
&lt;Presence&gt; ya &lt;JavaIRC&gt; so what is the next step? &lt;Presence&gt;
dunno &lt;Presence&gt; realise the emptiness nature? &lt;JavaIRC&gt; yes. :)
&lt;JavaIRC&gt; the no-self is just the first level. :) &lt;JavaIRC&gt; this is
what that might be troubling longchen. &lt;Presence&gt; no-self refering to
non-individuality? &lt;JavaIRC&gt; vedanta and meditative experience.
&lt;JavaIRC&gt; the next deeper understanding is the emptiness nature.
&lt;Presence&gt; icic ya &lt;JavaIRC&gt; does a fish has the same experience of
sight on the same thing as we do? &lt;JavaIRC&gt; even without imputing labels
and concepts? &lt;Presence&gt; no &lt;JavaIRC&gt; this is condition arising
&lt;Presence&gt; icic &lt;JavaIRC&gt; even if one is without labels, symbols,
concepts, no object and subject differentiation &lt;JavaIRC&gt; presence is
unique from moment to moment &lt;JavaIRC&gt; always pure because it is free
from labels &lt;Presence&gt; icic.. &lt;Presence&gt; oh ya &lt;JavaIRC&gt; but
one might not know emptiness nature. &lt;Presence&gt; ven sheng yen said
something about chuang tzu &lt;Presence&gt; hold on &lt;Presence&gt; <a href="http://www.chan1.org/ddp/channews/10-1987.html" target="_new">http://www.chan1.org/ddp/channews/10-1987.html</a>
&lt;Presence&gt; In early Chinese literature there was a Taoist philosopher
named Chuang-tzu. One day he was talking to another philosopher, Hui Shih, and
they were both standing on a bridge overlooking a river. &lt;Presence&gt;
Chuang-tzu said, "Look at the fish, see how happy they are." Hui Shih
replied, "You're not a fish -- how do you know how happy they are?"
Chuang-tzu countered, "You're not me, how do you know that I don't know
how happy the fish are?" &lt;Presence&gt; These two men had very different
perspectives. Chuang-tzu is at one with the fish, and really knows what they
are feeling. Hui Shih still discriminates between himself and the fish, so he
has no idea how they feel. &lt;Presence&gt; There's a Ch'an story concerning
two partriarchs, Ma-tzu and Pai-chang. These two masters were walking, when a
flock of geese flew over them. The elder patriarch asked Pai-chang, "What
was that?" Pai-chang replied, "Those are wild geese." Ma-tzu
then asked, "What about now?" And &lt;Presence&gt; Pai-chang said,
"They've flown away." Ma-tzu grabbed Pai-chang's nose, squeezed very
hard, and demanded, "They flew away?" Pai-chang's nose really hurt,
and he started to cry, but then he started to laugh uproariously. People
thought he went crazy. &lt;Presence&gt; At the beginning of their walk, when
the geese first flew over them, what they saw was different. But at the end of
the story they were both seeing the same thing. When Ma-tzu saw the geese, he
saw them, as we say in Ch'an, with "no coming, no going, no dying, no
being born" -- how then could he say that the geese flew away? When
Pai-chang first saw the geese, he had the mind of &lt;Presence&gt;
discrimination. When the geese flew away, his mind flew away with them. But
when Ma-tzu grabbed Pai-chang's nose, Ma-tzu brought Pai-chang's mind back.
When the pain was great enough, Pai-chang was right there again. He saw for
himself that he was unmoving, that the geese were &lt;Presence&gt; unmoving.
His tears and his laughter were both expressions of his joy. In the beginning
they had different eyes, but in the end their eyes were the same.
&lt;Presence&gt; The experience of these patriarchs is different from the story
of Chang-tzu and Hui Shih. Chang-tzu was at one with nature, but he was still
moving with nature. Ma-tzu was also at one with nature, but his mind was not
moving, therefore, nature was not moving for him. &lt;Presence&gt; i dun
understand the part where ven sheng yen said how chuang tzu is different from
ma tzu &lt;JavaIRC&gt; wait that is the 3rd level of presence. :)
&lt;Presence&gt; ?? &lt;Presence&gt; hmm come to tink about it i tink i
understood wat ven sheng yen said liao &lt;Presence&gt; :P &lt;JavaIRC&gt;
hmm....what do u think he meant? &lt;Presence&gt; brb &lt;Presence&gt; back
&lt;Presence&gt; well for ma tzu he was not brought away by the flying geese
&lt;Presence&gt; bcos he cld see the emptiness nature of it? &lt;JavaIRC&gt;
nope. :P &lt;Presence&gt; oic then &lt;JavaIRC&gt; u remember once u ask me how
do i know whether eckhart tolles has the same sort of buddhism enlightenment.
&lt;Presence&gt; in forum or in irc &lt;JavaIRC&gt; in irc. &lt;Presence&gt; i
tink so &lt;JavaIRC&gt; my reply is the answer will become a hurdle for u
later. :) &lt;Presence&gt; huh? &lt;Presence&gt; cant remember that
&lt;JavaIRC&gt; lol &lt;JavaIRC&gt; anyway even when one understand
non-duality, it is not necessary that he/she has understood emptiness nature of
reality. :) &lt;Presence&gt; oic &lt;Presence&gt; ya &lt;JavaIRC&gt; even he
experienced the dissolving of individuality. &lt;Presence&gt; icic
&lt;JavaIRC&gt; because of this emptiness nature, do not separate awareness
from phenomenon arising. &lt;JavaIRC&gt; awareness has no-self, it is always
otherness &lt;JavaIRC&gt; this is, that is &lt;Presence&gt; icic
&lt;Presence&gt; ya &lt;JavaIRC&gt; the third is this emptiness nature when
experience with non-dual luminosity must turn into the uncondition, abiding
presence &lt;JavaIRC&gt; spontaneously luminous arising movement &lt;Presence&gt;
what does it mean by abiding presence &lt;JavaIRC&gt; it is a perfect sense of
luminous clarity that is always there. &lt;Presence&gt; icic &lt;Presence&gt;
wait &lt;Presence&gt; what is the second? &lt;JavaIRC&gt; but at this level,
nothing is analysed from its parts. &lt;Presence&gt; icic &lt;JavaIRC&gt; when a
person speaks at this level, it is always speaking of the oneness and wholeness
&lt;JavaIRC&gt; unconditioned, pure, abiding presence, permanence...etc
&lt;JavaIRC&gt; all is from this level, not picking a certain part.
&lt;Presence&gt; oic &lt;Presence&gt; so this is why mahaparinirvana sutras etc
came about? &lt;JavaIRC&gt; it is always from an inseparable wholeness
&lt;JavaIRC&gt; yes &lt;Presence&gt; oic &lt;Presence&gt; but wait whats the
second level? &lt;Presence&gt; [22:28] &lt;JavaIRC&gt; wait that is the 3rd
level of presence. :) --&gt; &lt;Presence&gt; u referring to this level rite --
&gt; [22:42] &lt;JavaIRC&gt; unconditioned, pure, abiding presence,
permanence...etc &lt;JavaIRC&gt; yes. &lt;Presence&gt; oic &lt;Presence&gt; and
that’s the 'highest' level rite &lt;Presence&gt; :P &lt;Presence&gt; lol
&lt;JavaIRC&gt; second is the all is emptiness. &lt;Presence&gt; oic
&lt;JavaIRC&gt; the 3 level of turnings &lt;JavaIRC&gt; the 3 dharma seals
&lt;Presence&gt; and the first level? &lt;Presence&gt; icic &lt;JavaIRC&gt;
non-duality without symbols. &lt;JavaIRC&gt; so don't mistaken hah
&lt;Presence&gt; oic &lt;Presence&gt; u mean &lt;Presence&gt; theravada is
about non-duality without symbols? &lt;Presence&gt; or rather &lt;Presence&gt;
the 4 noble truths &lt;JavaIRC&gt; nope. :) &lt;Presence&gt; then
&lt;JavaIRC&gt; do not differentiate, theravada has the same teaching too but
misunderstood. &lt;Presence&gt; oic misunderstood in what ways &lt;Presence&gt;
but wait &lt;Presence&gt; u are equating the 3 levels with the 3 level of
turnings rite? &lt;Presence&gt; then in that case isn’t 'non-duality without
symbols' = 4 noble truths :P &lt;JavaIRC&gt; during the journey of
enlightenment, there is really no clear line of demarcation. &lt;Presence&gt;
oic &lt;JavaIRC&gt; it is only for convenience sake that we said so.
&lt;JavaIRC&gt; just like we say failure is the mother of success :P
&lt;JavaIRC&gt; it is the beginning of success &lt;JavaIRC&gt; to be
successful, failure is the seed. &lt;JavaIRC&gt; it is an entire process
&lt;JavaIRC&gt; when we pick and analyse section of it, division occurs.
&lt;JavaIRC&gt; :) &lt;Presence&gt; icic..<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">&lt;JavaIRC&gt; much is spoken about the gap between the two
moments of thoughts &lt;Presence&gt; icic &lt;JavaIRC&gt; the non-duality that
I told u. &lt;Presence&gt; oic &lt;JavaIRC&gt; wait...solve some math problems
for my wife. :) &lt;Presence&gt; haha &lt;Presence&gt; ok &lt;JavaIRC&gt; back
&lt;Presence&gt; hi &lt;JavaIRC&gt; anyway the third level of presence must
undergo first and second level of understanding. &lt;Presence&gt; oic..
&lt;JavaIRC&gt; most ppl enter the non-dual and mistaken that they have reached
the ultimate. &lt;Presence&gt; icic &lt;JavaIRC&gt; if that experience abiding
presence, then it is &lt;Presence&gt; oic &lt;Presence&gt; so &lt;JavaIRC&gt;
unfortunately the presence doesn't stay because it wasn't purified by the
emptiness truth. &lt;Presence&gt; ppl like eckhart tolle &lt;JavaIRC&gt; so the
understanding isn't thorough &lt;Presence&gt; even though they speak of
'presence' &lt;Presence&gt; it’s quite different from the '3rd level Presence'?
&lt;JavaIRC&gt; it is the non-dual aspect. :) &lt;Presence&gt; but anyway i tot
u said hinduism focused too much on Presence? &lt;Presence&gt; icic
&lt;JavaIRC&gt; luminosity &lt;Presence&gt; orh icic &lt;JavaIRC&gt; not too
much on presence &lt;Presence&gt; icic.. &lt;JavaIRC&gt; having said that, true
understanding must come from direct experiences. &lt;JavaIRC&gt; it is only a
guide. &lt;JavaIRC&gt; to prevent one from being misled. &lt;Presence&gt; oic
&lt;Presence&gt; ya &lt;JavaIRC&gt; but u must also know that each level is a
matter of degree of luminosity and clarity &lt;Presence&gt; icic<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">&lt;JavaIRC&gt; even one is experiences non-dual, there is
subtle attachment to 'form' &lt;JavaIRC&gt; the transcendental experience that
he/she experiences &lt;Presence&gt; icic.. &lt;Presence&gt; what kind of form
&lt;JavaIRC&gt; like the analogy about the fish and us, even without conceptual
fabrications, presence does not take any form even for a moment.
&lt;Presence&gt; icic.. &lt;JavaIRC&gt; so seeing What Is, Is seeing emptiness
&lt;JavaIRC&gt; Presence is so. &lt;JavaIRC&gt; u get what i mean eh?
&lt;Presence&gt; tink so &lt;Presence&gt; ya &lt;JavaIRC&gt; i m speaking from
the perspective of a person even he experiences non-duality &lt;JavaIRC&gt; but
have not experience emptiness &lt;Presence&gt; icic.. &lt;JavaIRC&gt; without
seeing emptiness, Presence is not true. &lt;Presence&gt; icic Session Close:
Thu Apr 20 00:21:35 2006<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Session Start: Fri May 12 00:50:26 2006 Session Ident:
^john^ Session Ident: ^john^ (~john@bb220-255-105-66.singnet.com.sg)
&lt;^john^&gt; the url? &lt;Presence&gt; <a href="http://buddhism.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&amp;thread_id=185686" target="_new">http://buddhism.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&amp;thread_id=185686</a>
&lt;^john^&gt; what was ur earlier question again? &lt;Presence&gt; [00:39]
&lt;Presence&gt; --- &lt;Presence&gt; [00:39] &lt;Presence&gt; according to
Eckhart Tolle in several places in the book, a person may need to go through
intense sufferings before being 'forced' into living in the &lt;Presence&gt;
[00:39] &lt;Presence&gt; present moment, and thereby attaining enlightenment.
which is somewhat like Eckhart Tolle's own case himself. &lt;Presence&gt;
[00:39] &lt;Presence&gt; and i also want to ask, how come some ppl like Eckhart
Tolle although never knew any spiritual teachings, then suddenly became
enlightened through &lt;Presence&gt; [00:39] &lt;Presence&gt; intense
suffering? Why do other ppl who are suicidal never become enlightened? lol
&lt;Presence&gt; [00:39] &lt;Presence&gt; ------------ &lt;Presence&gt; and so
u were saying, most ppl start to inquire only after some sort of intense
sufferings? &lt;^john^&gt; That is just the first direct perception of
consciousness &lt;Presence&gt; icic &lt;^john^&gt; but very soon the experience
is being distorted. &lt;^john^&gt; LongChen has similar experience too. &lt;Presence&gt;
oic.. &lt;^john^&gt; and only the luminosity aspect. &lt;^john^&gt; to
break-through and have a more thorough understanding of the luminosity aspect,
no-self must be experienced. &lt;Presence&gt; icic.. &lt;^john^&gt; the death
of the individuality. &lt;Presence&gt; oic &lt;^john^&gt; means the clarity of
no-personality and individuality but not emptiness nature. &lt;Presence&gt;
icic.. &lt;^john^&gt; if we are able to rest in this stage, it is already a
great achievement. &lt;Presence&gt; icic &lt;^john^&gt; this is a non-dual
mode. &lt;Presence&gt; oic &lt;Presence&gt; ya &lt;^john^&gt; and when the mind
becomes mirror bright, supernatural power might occur as a result of the
luminosity with concentration. :) &lt;^john^&gt; but not to dwell in that
stage. &lt;Presence&gt; eckhart tolle got supernatural power meh
&lt;Presence&gt; lol &lt;^john^&gt; it is only in buddhism that the
condition-arising is taught. &lt;Presence&gt; hmm ya &lt;^john^&gt; that is the
way towards true liberation &lt;^john^&gt; hinduism taught the luminosity
aspect in deep detail but why is it mistaken as 'Self'? &lt;Presence&gt; my
taiwanese teacher since a long time ago was v v powerful in supernatural power,
but my shi fu ask him not to dwell on that until wisdom arises &lt;^john^&gt;
yes &lt;Presence&gt; hmm bcos no emptiness teaching? &lt;^john^&gt; buddha
knows this stage very well and know what is not seen by them. &lt;Presence&gt;
oic.. &lt;^john^&gt; it is prajna wisdom that liberates &lt;^john^&gt; but it
also requires this luminosity, this non-dual mode to understand emptiness.
&lt;^john^&gt; it is not a form of knowledge. &lt;Presence&gt; icic
&lt;Presence&gt; so u're saying must first 'enter' the non-dual mode then to
realise emptiness? &lt;^john^&gt; for true realisation of emptiness to occur.
&lt;Presence&gt; icic &lt;^john^&gt; it springs from within &lt;^john^&gt; not
as a form of knowledge. &lt;^john^&gt; but first grasped in the form of concept
of what is emptiness &lt;Presence&gt; icic.. &lt;^john^&gt; when is absorbed in
the seeing, it is just the pure sensation, the abiding of presence that knows.
&lt;^john^&gt; it is that 'knowing' that can understand emptiness.
&lt;Presence&gt; oic &lt;Presence&gt; but that 'knowing' by itself has not yet
understood emptiness? &lt;^john^&gt; not a form of knowledge that result from
measurement and comparisons. &lt;Presence&gt; icic &lt;^john^&gt; there is a
form of knowing that is direct and intuitive, it comes from being one with the
subject. &lt;Presence&gt; icic &lt;Presence&gt; ya the 'non-dual' mode
&lt;Presence&gt; ? &lt;^john^&gt; it knows by being one and totally involved
and being absorbed. &lt;Presence&gt; icic.. &lt;^john^&gt; letting the
sensation slowly emerges but every bit is real, direct, vivid and clear.
&lt;^john^&gt; just like love. &lt;Presence&gt; oic.. &lt;^john^&gt; when
consciousness is free from 'self', it is always otherness &lt;^john^&gt; when
something arises and there is no-self, is it ur thoughts or mine?
&lt;Presence&gt; neither &lt;^john^&gt; pathie is no more the moderator?
&lt;^john^&gt; :) &lt;Presence&gt; ya she rather busy.. anyway she didn’t
really want to be moderator also la.. got ask me a few times &lt;Presence&gt; u
wan to be moderator? :P &lt;^john^&gt; of course not. I will be worse than her.
:) &lt;Presence&gt; haha y &lt;^john^&gt; no time and do not wish to end up in
a tongue fight. :P &lt;Presence&gt; oic &lt;Presence&gt; kk &lt;^john^&gt; but
all of ya are really helpful :) &lt;Presence&gt; :P &lt;^john^&gt; have u read
anything about cittamatra? &lt;Presence&gt; nope &lt;Presence&gt; what about
cittamatra &lt;^john^&gt; hmm...u know what is rang tong and shen tong?
&lt;Presence&gt; heard b4 &lt;Presence&gt; is it one emphasize more on buddha
nature &lt;Presence&gt; the other emphasize more on emptiness &lt;Presence&gt;
tibetan buddhism &lt;^john^&gt; one emphasize that buddha nature is not empty
but other than our nature, all is empty. &lt;Presence&gt; the first or the second
&lt;^john^&gt; the other, all is empty including our buddha nature.
&lt;Presence&gt; [01:25] &lt;^john^&gt; one emphasize that buddha nature is not
empty but other than our nature, all is empty. --&gt; rang tong or sheng tong?
&lt;Presence&gt; so wat u support? :P &lt;Presence&gt; second? &lt;^john^&gt;
shen tong is other empty &lt;Presence&gt; icic &lt;^john^&gt; rang tong is all
empty &lt;Presence&gt; oic &lt;Presence&gt; so wat u tink &lt;^john^&gt; both
to me are right. :) Been meditating on it..:) &lt;Presence&gt; how is it that
both are right? &lt;^john^&gt; this is just my experience. :) &lt;^john^&gt;
there is no need to be afraid to eliminate till none. &lt;Presence&gt; hmm but
isn’t the two views contradictory? &lt;Presence&gt; how come both are right?
&lt;^john^&gt; how should i say. :P &lt;^john^&gt; wait... &lt;Presence&gt; ok
&lt;^john^&gt; do u know which one is the more accepted view? &lt;Presence&gt;
i tink tibetan sects support different isit &lt;Presence&gt; nyingma more on
sheng tong - gelug more on rang tong? &lt;^john^&gt; not really, i tink rang
tong is the more accepted view. &lt;^john^&gt; but i prefer the sheng tong. :)
&lt;Presence&gt; oic why? &lt;^john^&gt; coz when luminosity + emptiness is
experienced, it is just as what is being described. &lt;Presence&gt; oic
&lt;Presence&gt; then what about rangtong &lt;^john^&gt; but all empty is also
important and all language are incapable of expressing the ultimate and has to
be negated. &lt;Presence&gt; oic.. &lt;^john^&gt; it is important here to know
one point and I believe there is a reason to it. &lt;^john^&gt; wait...change
vcds &lt;Presence&gt; u watching show? &lt;Presence&gt; what point?
&lt;^john^&gt; yeah &lt;^john^&gt; duan chang jian (break the view of
eternalism) &lt;^john^&gt; :P &lt;Presence&gt; oic &lt;^john^&gt; it is because
emptiness is a healthy negation if we understand correctly &lt;Presence&gt;
icic. &lt;^john^&gt; u know about taoism &lt;Presence&gt; icic..
&lt;Presence&gt; ya? &lt;^john^&gt; i told u about eliminate until none
&lt;Presence&gt; yea &lt;^john^&gt; coz true taoist masters know that it will
reach tao &lt;^john^&gt; and come to the experience of the true power of
self-so. &lt;^john^&gt; zhi ran &lt;^john^&gt; a strength that just grows by
itself &lt;^john^&gt; self arise &lt;Presence&gt; icic.. &lt;^john^&gt;
naturally luminous &lt;Presence&gt; oic &lt;^john^&gt; so the elimination is
based on such understanding because they know it. &lt;^john^&gt; they have
already experienced it. &lt;Presence&gt; oic &lt;^john^&gt; so they are not
afraid to tell their followers to eliminate till none. &lt;Presence&gt; icic..
&lt;^john^&gt; as long as it is not theoretical and they truly practice, they
will know. &lt;^john^&gt; tao must be experienced in its self-so.
&lt;Presence&gt; eliminate till none - isn’t that wat buddhism calls
'purification of mind'? &lt;^john^&gt; yes &lt;Presence&gt; icic &lt;^john^&gt;
purification as in emptiness leh &lt;Presence&gt; icic &lt;^john^&gt; but
shentong isn't wrong too. &lt;^john^&gt; without positive language, not many
can understand. &lt;Presence&gt; oic.. &lt;^john^&gt; but we should not mistake
it as self. &lt;Presence&gt; icic &lt;^john^&gt; 'Self' is cause of suffering
&lt;^john^&gt; whatever stage we are in. &lt;^john^&gt; so careful use of the
word is necessary. &lt;Presence&gt; oic.. &lt;^john^&gt; we can reached that
stage of non-dual mode but still the emptiness nature is not understood.
&lt;^john^&gt; and instead of seeing conditioned-arising, we see 'Self'.
&lt;Presence&gt; icic.. &lt;^john^&gt; this is the fall. &lt;Presence&gt; oic
&lt;^john^&gt; but do not put sheng tong and rang tong into discussion. :)
&lt;Presence&gt; hahahah &lt;Presence&gt; i wont &lt;Presence&gt; but anyway
why? &lt;Presence&gt; i dun tink many ppl in sgforums will discuss that kind of
topic anyway :P &lt;^john^&gt; :) &lt;Presence&gt; hmm i mean &lt;Presence&gt;
why cannot discuss sheng tong and rang tong &lt;^john^&gt; it can be discussed
of course. &lt;^john^&gt; just that i do not ppl to get over excited and make unnecessary
comments due to their practices. &lt;Presence&gt; oic.. &lt;Presence&gt; the
shen tong and rang tong thing - &lt;Presence&gt; does these split in view
exists in traditions other than vajrayana/tibetan? &lt;Presence&gt; like
chinese mahayana? or even theravada? &lt;^john^&gt; it is not good to make
negative comments and remarks on enlightened ppl. &lt;Presence&gt; oic
&lt;^john^&gt; got to go now...take care. :) &lt;Presence&gt; ok No such
nickname &lt;^john^&gt; u have Eckhart Tolle's &lt;^john^&gt; Stillness speak?
&lt;Presence&gt; yea &lt;Presence&gt; i finished reading quite some time ago
&lt;Presence&gt; y? &lt;Presence&gt; eh btw &lt;Presence&gt; i wanna ask u
&lt;Presence&gt; where u got ur toni packer's books from? &lt;Presence&gt; cos
i suspect it isn’t on singapore bookshelves &lt;^john^&gt; was 'Stillness
Speaks' written at a later date? &lt;Presence&gt; written in 2003 - but is
mainly compilation of short verses that eckhart tolle has gathered in his
notebook over the years &lt;Presence&gt; much like a sutra &lt;^john^&gt; her
books are really popular, i think i got it from taka. &lt;Presence&gt; oic when
? &lt;^john^&gt; 1.5 yrs back &lt;Presence&gt; icic &lt;Presence&gt; which book
u bought &lt;^john^&gt; So stillness speaks will written after the power of
now? &lt;^john^&gt; the wonder of presence &lt;Presence&gt; anyway the newest
book by eckhart tolle is i tink A New Earth &lt;Presence&gt; i tink 2005?
&lt;Presence&gt; that one very popular &lt;Presence&gt; almost as popular as
the power of now &lt;Presence&gt; i haven’t got that bcos i didn’t see it
&lt;^john^&gt; the wonder of presence? &lt;Presence&gt; the wonder of presence
icic.. been looking for that.. will try to find it elsewhere &lt;^john^&gt; the
clarity of no-self, to me is expressed pretty well by her. &lt;Presence&gt;
oic.. &lt;^john^&gt; though not as inspiring. &lt;Presence&gt; icic
&lt;^john^&gt; i have not read any book about thusness. :) &lt;Presence&gt; u
reading anything currently? &lt;Presence&gt; isit? &lt;Presence&gt; how come
&lt;Presence&gt; u write lor &lt;Presence&gt; hehehe &lt;^john^&gt; of course
not. :P &lt;^john^&gt; nothing can be written about it maybe...:)
&lt;Presence&gt; oic y &lt;^john^&gt; only found in sutra and poem.
&lt;Presence&gt; oic like wat poems &lt;Presence&gt; and wat sutras &lt;^john^&gt;
i like cittamatra teachings. :) &lt;Presence&gt; oic &lt;^john^&gt; but there
is something lacking. &lt;Presence&gt; wat is it &lt;^john^&gt; thusness lor...
&lt;Presence&gt; ooh &lt;Presence&gt; hmm then are there any poems or sutras
that wrote about thusness? &lt;^john^&gt; u can look into Dogen Zenji's
teaching. &lt;Presence&gt; icic.. &lt;^john^&gt; it depends on individual
really. &lt;^john^&gt; :) &lt;Presence&gt; oic &lt;^john^&gt; how u find the
stillness speaks? &lt;Presence&gt; quite gd - but if i had the choice i wld
have gotten new earth first &lt;^john^&gt; why? &lt;Presence&gt; stillness
speaks is comparably in length - and more like a lot of short verses
&lt;Presence&gt; *comparably shorter in length &lt;Presence&gt; hmm well
depends on what u like hehe &lt;^john^&gt; :) &lt;Presence&gt; so
&lt;^john^&gt; i like true real practical 'experience' even it doesn't sync
with what i experienced. :) &lt;Presence&gt; u going anywhere for vesak tmr?
&lt;Presence&gt; oic.. &lt;^john^&gt; today. &lt;^john^&gt; :P &lt;Presence&gt;
ya today &lt;Presence&gt; :P &lt;^john^&gt; bring my kids out. &lt;Presence&gt;
icic &lt;^john^&gt; got to go now...take care. :) &lt;Presence&gt; ok &lt;Presence&gt;
gnite No such nickname Session Close: Fri May 12 02:42:38 2006<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(7:14 PM) John: and don't deviate from buddhism. (7:14 PM)
AEN: kk (7:14 PM) AEN: oic (7:14 PM) AEN: deviate from buddhism as in? (7:14
PM) John: the 3 seals. (7:14 PM) AEN: but if introduce books like eckhart
tolle's is ok rite? (7:14 PM) AEN: oic (7:15 PM) John: i think eckhart tolle's
book is quite inspiring. The depth of experience is there. Just that i can sync
with toni's experience. (7:16 PM) John: The clarity and the questions she
asked, i deeply sync with her. (7:16 PM) AEN: icic.. (7:16 PM) AEN: oic (7:16
PM) AEN: eckhart tolle's depth of experience is there? (7:16 PM) John: I hope
the next book has what i want. :) (7:16 PM) AEN: oic wat u want (7:17 PM) John:
eckhart tolle's yes. But i think not to Toni's level. That is my opinion.
Toni's is almost mirror bright. But I just cannot understand certain thing.
(7:18 PM) AEN: oic.. (7:18 PM) AEN: cannot understand wat (7:18 PM) John: about
emptiness, there is something not there. (7:18 PM) John: initially i thought it
should be a natural progression.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(8:29 PM) John: many ppl can only write until the level what
toni wrote.... I am looking for some non locality experiences. (8:31 PM) AEN:
back (8:32 PM) AEN: wat do u mean by non locality experiences (8:32 PM) AEN:
and why is it that many ppl can only write until wat toni wrote? (8:35 PM)
John: zen masters have that level of clarity. As for lay, seldom do i see ppl
having that clarity. It is therefore difficult for people to write about
anything after he/she reaches that level of clarity. Unfortunately, real zen
masters doesn't speak much. :) (8:35 PM) John: when u listen, the sound is out
there....how far can we hear? (8:36 PM) AEN: as in physical distant? (8:36 PM)
John: yes (8:37 PM) AEN: dunnu leh need measurement.. haha.. on the relative
level (8:37 PM) John: lol (8:37 PM) John: wait for the books to be out lah...
(8:37 PM) AEN: huh?? (8:39 PM) AEN: so u mean toni packer didnt spoke of non
locality (8:39 PM) John: i do not know. Dunno she experience or not. :P (8:39
PM) AEN: <a href="http://www.heartspace.org/misc/IndraNet.html" target="_new">http://www.heartspace.org/misc/IndraNet.html</a>
(8:39 PM) AEN:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>4. Non-locality</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Indra's Net shoots holes in the assumption or imputation of
a solid and fixed universe 'out there'. The capacity of one jewel to reflect
the light of another jewel from the other edge of<br />
infinity is something that is difficult for the linear mind, rational mind to
comprehend. The fact that all nodes are simply reflections indicates that there
is no particular single source<br />
point from where it all arises. (8:39 PM) AEN: so have u read any books that
spoke about non locality (8:40 PM) John: this is interesting... (8:40 PM) AEN:
avatamasaka sutra. (8:40 PM) AEN: and indra's net (8:41 PM) AEN: <a href="http://buddhism.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&amp;thread_id=129929" target="_new">http://buddhism.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&amp;thread_id=129929</a>
(8:44 PM) John: have u watched superman? (8:44 PM) AEN: yea (8:45 PM) John:
there is a part where he raise above the earth atmosphere and listen....he
hears all... (8:45 PM) John: i like that part. (8:45 PM) John: :) (8:45 PM)
AEN: oic.. (8:45 PM) AEN: how come (8:45 PM) John: just like lah... (8:45 PM)
AEN: oic (8:45 PM) AEN: hahaha (8:46 PM) AEN: like guan yin :P (8:46 PM) John:
yes. :) (8:46 PM) AEN: my shi fu said something like... which i didnt quite
understand... when u practise until certain level, in another universe, when a
flower blossom u will know (8:46 PM) AEN: cant remember isit exactly it (8:46
PM) AEN: i tink not referring to supernatural powers (8:47 PM) John: ur shi fu
is who? (8:47 PM) AEN: ven shen kai (8:47 PM) John: sheng kai? (8:47 PM) John:
okie. (8:47 PM) AEN: teacher chen is his dharma successor in charge of
transmitting some important dharmas (8:48 PM) John: ic...then li zhu teacher?
(8:48 PM) AEN: yup (8:48 PM) AEN: oh (8:48 PM) AEN: local teacher (8:48 PM)
John: so when u say shi fu, u r normally referring to ven shen kai? (8:48 PM)
AEN: yea (8:48 PM) AEN: hahaha (8:48 PM) John: ic. :) (8:48 PM) AEN: truthz
maybe call 'shi gong' (8:48 PM) AEN: cos different side (8:49 PM) AEN: bcos li
zhu lao shi is not chu jia (8:49 PM) John: ic (9:02 PM) AEN: "guan yin's
practise is 'er gen yuan tong', whatever world has sentient beings calling for
him, he will hear and save them. therefore if we are to attain buddhahood in
this world, even if there is a flower blossoming in another universe, we will
know immediately, then we will attain budhahood" (9:02 PM) AEN: i tink he
mention about flower blossoming in another universe somewhere else too (9:03
PM) AEN: in the 'kai shi lu' series (9:03 PM) John: ic. You are very
resourceful. :) (9:04 PM) AEN: haha cos i just listen to this again recently
(9:04 PM) AEN: so i remember (9:04 PM) John: ic (9:08 PM) AEN: guan yin can
listen cos he can access 'the ocean of self-nature' (9:08 PM) AEN: is it some
kind of supernatural power? (9:09 PM) John: this might be possible through deep
clarity....it relates to clearing of fetters. (9:09 PM) AEN: oic (9:09 PM)
John: but like i said, not for u to delve into it now. :P<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Session Start: Monday, August 07 2006<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(5:33 PM) John: There is a chapter in the "A New
Earth" where Eckhart Tolle mentioned about, touching a cup or anything, be
without thoughts and not naming anything, then senses it...did u read about
that? (5:37 PM) John: i read in borders the other day. (5:37 PM) AEN: o icic
(5:37 PM) AEN: y wat about tat (5:38 PM) John: That to me is a really important
chapter. :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(7:03 PM) John: actually it is important to experience the
"I AMness" (7:03 PM) AEN: oic.. (7:04 PM) John: i find that people
having such experiences have more profound understanding of the teaching of
Buddha if they are able to humble themselves down. (7:04 PM) AEN: oic (7:04 PM)
John: Because these are the people that are in the best position to tell if
they go beyond that stage... (7:04 PM) John: it is a natural progression. (7:04
PM) John: and Buddha I would say knows this problem and is one that has gone
through similar process.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(7:23 PM) John: wah...eckhart now become like a world
teacher. (7:23 PM) AEN: haha y? (7:23 PM) AEN: yea true (7:24 PM) AEN: his
books are v popular... wonder how come (7:24 PM) AEN: but also nice to read la
(7:25 PM) John: writing from personal experience and very inspirational. :)
(7:25 PM) AEN: oic.. (7:27 PM) AEN: gtg.. cya (7:27 PM) John: cya<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:19 AM) John: close ur eyes and feel anything like what
eckhart tolle, and feel anything...feel the hardness of the floor...like in
mindfulness, is that 'hardness' urs or mine or the floor? (12:21 AM) AEN:
neither (12:21 AM) John: :) (12:21 AM) John: if u go beyond labels and become
imageless, there will be arising. (12:22 AM) John: when one is not attached to
the arising, one penetrates into the object (12:23 AM) John: the heart of the
object is consciousness<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(11:52 PM) John: I would rather read Eckhart Tolle's book.
:) (11:52 PM) AEN: lol (11:53 PM) John: something as simple as touching a cup
would tell him his depth of experience and where exactly he is. (11:53 PM) AEN:
so u're saying d.t.suzuki's translation is quite ok (11:53 PM) AEN: icic (11:54
PM) John: and i can tell u at least 4 chapters of lankavatara is toking about
this point. :) (11:54 PM) John: of course not on the emptiness point. :) (11:54
PM) AEN: oic.. (11:55 PM) John: Eckhart Tolle a new earth and practical
approach towards the experience the now moment will lead u to the explanation
of at least the first 4 chapters. :) (11:55 PM) AEN: icic... (11:56 PM) AEN:
then after tat? (11:56 PM) John: sorry first 6 chapters (11:56 PM) AEN: oic
(11:56 PM) John: only the part on manifestation of emptiness is lacking though
it spoke about manifestation. (11:57 PM) John: and one knows that just by
reading that, where exactly he is at.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:04 AM) John: and i have been reading it and trying to
express it in my own way. (12:04 AM) John: :) (12:04 AM) AEN: oic.. (12:06 AM)
John: there are not many that can have that sort of clarity with authentic
experiences and still bother to write to explain it. (12:07 AM) John:
Krishnamutri is one (12:07 AM) John: Eckhart Tolle is simple, direct and
practical. (12:07 AM) AEN: oic.. (12:08 AM) AEN: krishnamurti understands
emptiness? (12:08 AM) AEN: what u mean by 'clarity and authentic experience'? u
said there are many levels of enlightenment ? (12:08 AM) John: it is not about
emptiness, it is their experience. (12:08 AM) AEN: oic<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:10 AM) John: Zen practices, Dogen is good and many zen
masters poems are beautiful.<br />
(12:11 AM) John: For tibetan buddhism, i like yogacara. (12:11 AM) John: it is
really difficult to find one that has the clarity of expression of what that is
beyond symbols. (12:13 AM) John: and is completely clear about the the anatta
concept. (12:14 AM) AEN: icic.. (12:14 AM) AEN: sorry the title of his book is
'i am that' (12:15 AM) John: toni packer too...but can write like eckhart
tolle. (12:16 AM) John: Any good books written by Dogen? (12:18 AM) AEN: not
too sure.. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1590300246/sr=1-9/qid=1155140179/ref=sr_1_9/102-2935529-0357719?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books" target="_new">http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1590300246/sr=1-9/qid=1155140179/ref=sr_1_9/102-2935529-0357719?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books</a>
? (11:59 AM) John: i like the One Taste [by Ken Wilber]. (11:59 AM) John: he
calls all those ppl that commented on his work morons. (11:59 AM) John: :P
(11:59 AM) John: lol (11:59 AM) John: negative comments i mean (11:59 AM) AEN:
wahahah (11:59 AM) AEN: how come (11:59 AM) John: too petty... (11:59 AM) AEN:
lol (12:00 PM) John: coz they don't understand him....he is human after all :P
(12:00 PM) John: u can see his struggles (12:00 PM) AEN: hahaha (12:00 PM)
John: his journey towards enlightenment... (12:00 PM) John: lol (12:00 PM) AEN:
oic (12:01 PM) John: actually i like eckhart tolle's book. (12:02 PM) John:
though i see that the experience is not as thorough. (12:02 PM) John: i think
it is safer. :) (12:02 PM) AEN: ic.. (12:03 PM) AEN: safer? how come (12:03 PM)
John: certain experiences should is considered quite dangerous and can cause a
lot of harm. (12:04 PM) John: only very qualified masters can teach these
methods. (12:04 PM) John: because the experience is considered a form of
altered state of consciousness, it can be dangerous.... (12:04 PM) AEN: oic...
(12:05 PM) AEN: like wat kind of experience (12:05 PM) John: i think
experiencing presence in dreamless and dream stage should not be
taught....rather only emptiness nature of manifestation... (12:06 PM) John: and
then should only focus on compassion, wisdom, equanimity, patience (12:06 PM)
AEN: oic.. (12:06 PM) John: just these...don't long for experiences...it will
come naturally...when the time is right. (12:06 PM) AEN: icic (12:06 PM) John:
wisdom is not the stages of meditation... (12:08 PM) John: when our attachments
diminishes and wisdom (the bond of the symbols dissolve) grows, we will
experience our radiance presence naturally and propel to all relevant phases of
the dream and dreamless state. (12:09 PM) John: there is no need to do
anything....to be over anxious over certain achievement and stage is extremely
dangerous.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(1:16 PM) John: initially i wanted to buy ken wilber's
book...but i think photocopy can liao. :P (1:16 PM) John: just the one taste
and theory of everything (1:16 PM) AEN: lol (1:16 PM) John: coz more of
hinduism than buddhist (1:16 PM) AEN: oic (1:16 PM) AEN: how u photocopy? (1:16
PM) AEN: library? (1:17 PM) John: i m looking for books that is beyond anatta
and brings into the view of emptiness with non centricity and non-locality
(1:17 PM) John: i wonder any practitioner has experienced that and put it into
words. :P (1:17 PM) AEN: oic.. (1:17 PM) AEN: so far none? (1:17 PM) AEN: ken
wilber also never write? (1:17 PM) John: not so much of beyond the experience
of no-self but more of one that thoroughly understand no-self (1:18 PM) AEN:
oic (1:18 PM) John: and yet experience the essence of emptiness nature
intuitively (1:18 PM) AEN: icic (1:21 PM) John: books like eckhart tolle will
be good. Never over emphasize anything (1:21 PM) AEN: oic.. (1:21 PM) John:
clear simple and lucid (1:21 PM) AEN: icic (1:21 PM) John: but i am looking for
something more than that. (1:22 PM) John: anyone that has thorough experienced
no-self for few years, i am interested....eheheh<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(12:26 AM) John: sitting meditation is important, it will
help u still ur mind and heighten ur awareness (12:26 AM) AEN: icic.. (12:29
AM) John: u must learn to still ur body first, the experience similar to the
lower half of ur body must be extend to the whole body. (12:29 AM) AEN: oic
(12:29 AM) AEN: must i reach some sort of jhana experience first for tat to
happen? (12:29 AM) John: it is often easier the first time...hehe.... (12:30
AM) AEN: how come (12:30 AM) AEN: hahaha (12:30 AM) John: then when u are able
to still ur body, just motionless and when u sit, its is stable and still
(12:30 AM) John: it then comes to the mind (12:31 AM) John: to watch the breath
and settle ur thoughts (12:31 AM) AEN: oic.. (12:31 AM) John: practice this
until u can calm ur thoughts (12:32 AM) John: through ur breath<br />
(12:32 AM) AEN: icic (12:32 AM) John: once u r able to still ur thoughts or
settle ur thoughts, then start to be aware.... (12:33 AM) AEN: oic.. (12:33 AM)
John: until u feel the full presence of ur sensation, taste, touch..etc (12:34
AM) John: sense them.... (12:34 AM) AEN: icic.. (12:34 AM) John: if possible
contemplate on what buddhagosha said (12:34 AM) AEN: oic (12:35 AM) John: only
the thinking, no thinker (12:35 AM) John: the taste, no one tasting (12:35 AM)
AEN: icic.. (12:35 AM) John: till directness arises (12:35 AM) AEN: oic (12:35
AM) John: keep practicing this if possible in the morning...heehe or
afternoon...not night. (12:35 AM) AEN: why not night (12:35 AM) AEN: cos tired?
(12:36 AM) John: no good (12:36 AM) John: only in the morning or evening (12:36
AM) AEN: y not night.. lol (12:36 AM) John: till u r able to control ur thought
pattern (12:36 AM) AEN: oic (12:37 AM) John: at night just relax and do what u
do...lol...irc...msn...forum. (12:37 AM) AEN: lol ok (12:37 AM) John: during
waking state, practice mindfulness (12:38 AM) John: when ur feet touches the
floor... (12:38 AM) John: when ur hand touches anything...spend time...just
like what eckhart tolle said in the power of now and a new earth. (12:38 AM)
John: when u swallow ur saliva. (12:39 AM) AEN: oic... (12:39 AM) John: feel
the sensation completely... (12:39 AM) AEN: icic (12:39 AM) John: then relax
and don't practice that at night..until morning....till one day u tell me u
know what has thought pattern got to do with calmness (12:40 AM) AEN: oic
(12:40 AM) John: and how awareness is being misidentified with self and what
are the relationships (12:40 AM) AEN: icic.. (12:40 AM) John: what is bliss and
clarity (12:40 AM) AEN: oic (12:41 AM) John: then when u experience no-self and
our pristine awareness and clearly know what is awareness, tell me why is it
everything... (12:41 AM) AEN: icic.. (12:42 AM) John: challenging and going
beyond thought can be a painful experience if not practiced correctly. (12:43
AM) AEN: icic.. (12:43 AM) John: because we have been using thoughts and it
will come (12:43 AM) John: so do not under estimate it (12:43 AM) AEN: oic
(12:44 AM) John: exercise more.... (12:44 AM) John: a healthy body for a
healthy mind (12:44 AM) AEN: icic (12:44 AM) John: it will help ur practice
(12:44 AM) AEN: icic (12:45 AM) John: when u r able to experience directly,
tell me about it (12:45 AM) John: when u r able to settle ur thoughts, tell me
also... (12:45 AM) AEN: oic.. (12:46 AM) John: then go to ur centre and engage
in activities to keep in touch with dharma. (12:46 AM) AEN: icic.. (12:46 AM)
AEN: ok (12:48 AM) John: yeah...in meditation, content of the mind is not
important, it is the quality of the mind (12:48 AM) John: peace, bliss,
tranquillity, calmness are not content (12:49 AM) AEN: icic.. (12:49 AM) John:
even in deep relaxation, u do not want to chat in ur mind, u simply let go
(12:49 AM) AEN: oic (12:49 AM) AEN: ya (12:50 AM) John: the content and meaning
isn't important at all (12:50 AM) John: u don't have to understand anything
(12:50 AM) John: nothing to understand at all. (12:50 AM) John: so don't worry
(12:50 AM) John: just the sensation (12:50 AM) John: the raw sensation (12:50
AM) AEN: oic (12:51 AM) John: but for start, u will contemplate (12:51 AM)
John: what is no-self (12:51 AM) John: what is directness (12:51 AM) John: what
are words (12:51 AM) AEN: before meditation? (12:51 AM) AEN: oic (12:51 AM)
John: during meditation, u will sure ask one... (12:52 AM) AEN: oh ok (12:52
AM) AEN: icic (12:52 AM) John: it is okie...but start with the calming the mind
first (12:52 AM) John: before ur contemplate (12:52 AM) John: when u
contemplate, u can also be mindful (12:52 AM) AEN: icic (12:52 AM) John: the
two can go hand in hand (12:52 AM) John: it doesn't matter (12:53 AM) John:
when u experience directness, concepts and thoughts will be replaced with
directness gradually (12:53 AM) AEN: icic.. (12:53 AM) John: but u must precede
with mindfulness of breath to settle the thoughts first<br />
(12:53 AM) John: to have mastery over thoughts (12:54 AM) John: or the ability
to settle thoughts through ur breath (12:54 AM) AEN: icic.. (12:55 AM) John:
when is ur exams? (12:55 AM) AEN: like over 2 weeks from now (12:55 AM) John: u
better start studying... (12:55 AM) John: lol (12:55 AM) AEN: yea i know haha
(12:56 AM) AEN: ok gtg.. gd nite (12:56 AM) John: nite<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">会话开始：</span>2006</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年</span>9</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">月</span>28</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">日</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span></b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">星期四</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(9:03 PM) John: Eckhart Tolle forum...many has attained 3-4
levels. But 5th level is still beyond them. Only JonLS is there. (9:04 PM) AEN:
oic.. (9:04 PM) AEN: who has attained 3-4 (9:04 PM) John: Chelsy (9:04 PM) AEN:
icic.. (9:04 PM) John: but she doesn't know what JonLS is toking about
yet....lol (9:04 PM) AEN: hahaha (9:04 PM) AEN: icic (9:05 PM) John: the karmic
propensity is blocking her for the moment. It will take quite some time due to
her faith and respect for Eckhart Tolle. (9:05 PM) AEN: oic..<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(9:49 PM) John: i am simply amazed how ET has 'touched' the
lives of so many ppl. (9:49 PM) AEN: oic.. (9:49 PM) AEN: yea haha.. (9:50 PM)
John: first go beyond labels and names and experience our buddha's nature.
(9:50 PM) AEN: icic (9:57 PM) AEN: i am simply amazed how ET has 'touched' the
lifes of so many ppl. --&gt; u be the 2nd ET loh.. hehe (9:57 PM) John: kok ur
head! (9:57 PM) AEN: haha y (10:02 PM) John: Buddha's teaching is complete
enough... John says: there is no need to add anything to it. John says: just go
beyond the cultural aspects and use it as a guide. (10:03 PM) AEN: oic.. (10:04
PM) John: the only way is for ET he himself to tok about no mirror reflecting.
:) (10:04 PM) John: then all things are solved for his followers. (10:04 PM)
AEN: icic... is eckhart there yet? (10:04 PM) John: almost. :) (10:05 PM) AEN:
how about a new earth? (10:05 PM) AEN: the new book i mean (10:05 PM) John:
same. :) (10:05 PM) AEN: icic.. (10:05 PM) John: that is why i din buy...lol
(10:09 PM) AEN: hahaha (10:09 PM) AEN: u talking to her? she got the same
problem? (10:10 PM) John: nope. :) (10:10 PM) John: i meant last time. (10:10
PM) AEN: oo icic (11:29 PM) John: gave something about no witnessing...hope i
do not cause havoc...:P (11:29 PM) John: better run! (11:29 PM) AEN: LOL (11:29
PM) AEN: icic (11:30 PM) John: nite! (11:30 PM) AEN: gd nite<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(3:06 PM) John: Din has completely understood what i am
trying to tell him. :) (3:06 PM) John: directly and intuitively (3:06 PM) AEN:
oic.. (3:06 PM) AEN: u mean based on his new posts (3:06 PM) John: in ET forum.
:) (3:06 PM) AEN: icic.. (3:07 PM) John: really glad for him. He has seen
no-self and begin to understand the propensities intuitively, as an insight.
(3:07 PM) John: it is truly amazing. (3:07 PM) AEN: oic.. (3:08 PM) John: he is
the first to have experienced all that i have experienced except DO. :) (3:08
PM) AEN: oic.. (3:08 PM) John: i think DO [dependent origination] will begin to
manifest later. (3:08 PM) AEN: icic (3:08 PM) John: but it is difficult to
'see'. :) (3:09 PM) AEN: icic.. so it will come naturally (3:09 PM) John: once
a person goes traceless, he can't be tracked. (3:09 PM) John: lol (3:09 PM)
AEN: haha (3:09 PM) AEN: wat u mean by tat (3:10 PM) John: DO [dependent
origination] is profound, deep. Not from the words of even one that has reached
non-dual. :) (3:10 PM) AEN: oic... (3:10 PM) AEN: so wat u mean by one cannot
be tracked (3:10 PM) AEN: if he goes traceless (3:11 PM) John: once he is in no
mirror reflecting, no one knows who he really is. :P (3:11 PM) AEN: oic (3:11
PM) AEN: i still dun understand (3:11 PM) AEN: hahaha (3:12 PM) John: dun tell
u. :P Not that important lah. (3:12 PM) AEN: i read from dhammapada that maras
cannot track where the consciousness of an arhant went (3:12 PM) AEN: is that
wat u mean (3:13 PM) John: something like that. ;p (3:13 PM) AEN: hahaha (3:13
PM) AEN: ok (3:26 PM) AEN: <a href="http://www.aimwell.org/Books/Suttas/Dhammapada/04-Puppha/04-puppha.html#57" target="_new">http://www.aimwell.org/Books/Suttas/Dhammapada/04-Puppha/04-puppha.html#57</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">The Venerable Godhika, impeded from gaining mental
absorption by a certain disease, cut his throat with a razor; but immediately
before his death he cultivated insight and realised nibbana.<br />
Mara searched to see where his relinking-consciousness had arisen. The Buddha
remarked that Mara cannot trace the relinking-consciousness of an Arahant.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.buddhanet.net/dhammapada/d_saints.htm" target="_new">http://www.buddhanet.net/dhammapada/d_saints.htm</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Verse 92. Blameless Is The Nature Of Saints<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">  For those who don’t accumulate,   who well reflect upon
their food,   they have as range the nameless and   the void of perfect freedom
too.   As birds that wing through space,   hard to trace their going.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Explanation: With full understanding that nature is empty
and objectless the mind is free of craving and leaves no trace of its
whereabouts like the paths of birds in flight.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Verse 93. Arahat’s State Cannot Be Traced<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">  For whom pollutions are destroyed,   not attached to any
food,   he has as range the nameless and   the void of perfect freedom too.
(3:26 PM) AEN:<br />
  As birds that wing through space,   hard to trace his going.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Explanation: If one is totally free of influences, internal
or external, that motivates human behaviour, and is not attached even to food,
that kind of individual focuses his mind on emptiness, objectlessness and
freedom of thought. The path of such saints is difficult to be traced, like the
path of birds flying through the sky. (3:28 PM) John: yes...after stability. :P
(3:28 PM) AEN: icic (3:30 PM) John: it is pointless to tell anyone about
anything and to know anyone his stages of enlightenment. :) (3:30 PM) John:
only one who experiences know. (3:31 PM) AEN: oic (3:32 PM) John: like i know
the depth of buddha's word...heehehehe and Din knows my words...kekekeekke
(3:32 PM) AEN: hahahaha (3:33 PM) John: i have always spoken the truth. :P
(3:33 PM) John: somehow it sinks very deep into his consciousness. :) (3:33 PM)
AEN: oic... (3:33 PM) John: and the conditions ripen. (3:33 PM) John: i wonder
how deeply the DO sinks. :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Labels: Books and Websites Recommendations, Eckhart Tolle, I
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">脚注</span>/</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">附注：</span><o:p></o:p></b></p><ol start="1" style="margin-top: 0cm;" type="1">
 <li class="MsoNormal">“I
     AMness” <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">根据要求译为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></li>
 <li class="MsoNormal">“vipassana
     meditation” <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">按要求译为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">毗婆舍那（意思是观察如其本然的实相）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></li>
 <li class="MsoNormal">“DO”
     <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">为</span>
     “dependent origination”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（缘起），此处未作额外释义，直接使用缩写。</span><o:p></o:p></li>
 <li class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">所有链接、书名及其他专有名词均完全照搬原文，不作修改。</span><o:p></o:p></li>
</ol><p class="MsoNormal">[<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">以上为本次翻译内容的全部内容。</span>]<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">会话开始：</span>2006</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年</span>8</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">月</span>20</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">日</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span></b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">星期日</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(10:42 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：你知道佛陀所说的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>anatta<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）吗？这并不意味着没有自我</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">没有小我（</span>egoless<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）吗？</span><br />
(10:44 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我想是这样的。</span><br />
(10:45 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是指不执著于自我的心理形象，而</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">状态则是完全的非二元状态，对吗？</span><br />
(10:47 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：你必须明白，无我是一个法印，历来从未有过真正的我。</span><br />
(10:47 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白了。</span><br />
(10:48 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：即便一个人感到自豪，也依然本无我。</span><br />
(10:48 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：笑</span><br />
(10:48 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白了。</span><br />
(10:51 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：‘我’只是一种幻象，是找不到的。</span><br />
(10:51 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：是的。</span><br />
(10:52 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：一旦我们真正体验到这一点，那种催眠般的束缚就会松解，我们便会体验到喜悦。</span><br />
(10:52 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白了</span>……<br />
(10:54 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：一切都是意识，但如果没有那种稳定智慧的证悟，我们总是会认同于某种特定的显现。</span><br />
(10:55 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：普通的意识是对身体和心识的认同。</span><br />
(10:55 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：而更微妙的层面，则是对某一特定状态的执著。</span><br />
(10:55 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(10:56 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：还有对纯粹意识的认同，这通常被称为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无对象的意识</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
(10:57 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：那就是沉归于根源。</span><br />
(10:57 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白了。</span><br />
(10:57 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：空性就是要打破这种执著。</span><br />
(10:57 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：这并不是说要沉归，而是要证悟到每一种显现本质上都是空的。</span><br />
(10:57 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(10:58 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：也就是说，每一个显现其实就是意识本身，但由于其空性的本质，并不存在沉归到某个最纯粹的状态。</span><br />
(10:58 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：只有证悟到其空性本质。</span><br />
(10:58 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白了。</span><br />
(10:58 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：当我们体验天空时，我们不是在</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">体验天空</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，而是天空就是那体验</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">即意识。</span><br />
(10:59 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(10:59 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：对。</span><br />
(10:59 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：当我们体验河流时，我们并非在</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">体验河流</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，而是河流就是那体验，即意识。</span><br />
(10:59 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：它们是截然不同的。</span><br />
(10:59 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白</span>……<br />
(10:59 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：这都是由于各种因缘所致。</span><br />
(10:59 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：去感受一下</span>……<br />
(11:00 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：去体验它。</span><br />
(11:00 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：当符号的层次消失而临在稳定下来时，一切都将显得分外清晰。</span><br />
(11:00 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白了。</span><br />
(11:02 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：当我们解释时，必须观察因缘；当我们试图引导他人时，必须感受因缘并了解对方所处的层次。</span><br />
(11:03 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：只解释恰当的层次。</span><br />
(11:03 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：然后看到实际的修行是与这种理解相符的。</span><br />
(11:03 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：观察其稳定性，</span><br />
(11:03 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：在进入下一个层次之前。</span><br />
(11:04 PM) John<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：否则，只会制造冲突和混乱。</span><br />
(11:05 PM) AEN<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：明白了。</span><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"Session Start: Sunday, August 20, 2006<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(10:42 PM) John: u know when buddha say anatta, no-self, it
doesn't mean be egoless? (10:44 PM) AEN: i tink so (10:45 PM) AEN: egoless mean
detached from mental image of self, while nonself is completely nondual? (10:47
PM) John: u must understand that no-self is a dharma seal. Never was there a
self. (10:47 PM) AEN: icic (10:48 PM) John: even when one is proud, there is
still no-self (10:48 PM) AEN: lol (10:48 PM) AEN: icic (10:51 PM) AEN: self is
an illusion and cannot be found (10:51 PM) John: yes (10:52 PM) John: once we
truly experience, the hypnotic bond loosen and we experience bliss. (10:52 PM)
AEN: icic.. (10:54 PM) John: everything is consciousness, but without knowing
and arising of stable wisdom, we always identify with a particular manifestation
(10:55 PM) John: ordinary consciousness is the identification of body and mind.
(10:55 PM) John: more subtle level is the attachment to a certain state (10:55
PM) AEN: oic.. (10:56 PM) John: and identification of the purest form of
consciousness, commonly known as the objectless consciousness (10:57 PM) John:
that is sinking back to the source (10:57 PM) AEN: icic (10:57 PM) John:
emptiness is to break this attachment (10:57 PM) John: that is not sinking back
but realise every form of arising as empty (10:57 PM) AEN: oic.. (10:58 PM)
John: that is every arising is indeed consciousness itself but due to its
emptiness nature, there is no sinking back to a purest form. (10:58 PM) John:
only realisation of its emptiness nature (10:58 PM) AEN: icic (10:58 PM) John:
when we experience the sky, we do not have an experience of the sky, the sky is
the experience is consciousness (10:59 PM) AEN: icic.. (10:59 PM) AEN: ya
(10:59 PM) John: when we experience the river, we do not have an experience of
the river, the river is the experience is consciousness (10:59 PM) John: they
are radically different (10:59 PM) AEN: oic.. (10:59 PM) John: this is due to
conditions (10:59 PM) John: feel it... (11:00 PM) John: experience it (11:00
PM) John: when the layer of symbols is gone and Presence is stabilized, it is
vividly clear. (11:00 PM) AEN: icic.. (11:02 PM) John: when we explain, we must
observe the conditions. When we try to lead someone, we must feel the
conditions and understand the level one is in (11:03 PM) John: explain only the
right level (11:03 PM) John: then see that actual practice copes with the
understanding (11:03 PM) John: observe the stability (11:03 PM) John: before
going to the next level. (11:04 PM) John: otherwise, it will only create
conflicts and confusion. (11:05 PM) AEN: oic.."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">解释说明：</span><o:p></o:p></p><ol start="1" style="margin-top: 0cm;" type="1">
 <li class="MsoNormal">“anatta”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">译为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，</span>“egoless”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">译为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">没有自我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">或</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不执著自我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，此处区分为不执著于自我心理形象与完全非二元的无我状态。</span><o:p></o:p></li>
 <li class="MsoNormal">“dharma
     seal”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">译为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">法印</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，表示佛法中不可或缺的标志。</span><o:p></o:p></li>
 <li class="MsoNormal">“sinking
     back”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">译为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">沉归</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">或</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">归于根源</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，此处指回归于意识的本源。</span><o:p></o:p></li>
 <li class="MsoNormal">“Presence”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">译为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，保持统一。</span><o:p></o:p></li>
 <li class="MsoNormal">“realisation”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">译为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">证悟</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，符合要求。</span><o:p></o:p></li>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal">Reasoned about translation instructions for 56 seconds<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我们是谁？真的</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span>
"Who are we? Really<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span> “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">《</span>The Matrix<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">》是一部让许多观众沉思现实本质的电影。我就个人而言，是《</span>The Matrix<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">》的忠实影迷。在许多方面，虽然这部电影并非完全真实或邪恶到那种程度，但它象征着现实的本质。很多时候，冥想让人得以瞥见超出平常的境界。有些冥想时刻确实重新定义了我的身份，并改变了我对世界的看法。我必须强调，冥想是帮助我更好地理解自己的主要方式。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span> “The
Matrix” is one movie that got many a viewer pondering on the nature of reality.
I, for one, am a great fan of The Matrix. In many ways, although not exactly
true or that diabolical, the movie is symbolic of the nature of reality. Many a
times, meditation allows one to catch glimpses beyond the ordinary. There are
some meditation sessions that literally redefined my identity and altered my
perception of the world. I must emphasize that meditation is the major modality
that helped me to understand myself better.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">永恒的观察者</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">真实的身份</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span> The
Eternal Watcher- The True Identity<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在一次</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">觉醒</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">冥想中，我进入了一种没有思绪的状态。这样的体验很难用言语描述。这是因为解释的过程本身就在思维和概念的媒介中。用思维来描述无思的状态是不可能的！总之，在那无思的虚空中，人们自然而然地认为一切都应该是一片无意识的空白。然而，事实并非如此！接下来发生的事情对我来说简直是一次启示。在那无思的空无中，我感知到自己是一种临在</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这就是我将如何描述自己的方式。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span> In one
‘awakening’ meditation, I came to a state of no thoughts. Such experiences are
very hard to describe. This is because the explanation process itself, is
within the medium of thoughts and concepts. It is impossible to describe a
state of no thoughts using thoughts! Anyway, in the void of no thoughts, one
naturally assume that everything must be an unconscious blank. However, that
was not the case! What came next was quite a revelation to me. In the void of
no thought, I perceived myself to be a Presence... Here's how I will describe
myself.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span> “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无处不在，但并不具侵扰性。他似乎存在于万物之中，并以绝对的被动性观察。他超越了概念和信仰，不需要任何形式。因此，我理解他为永恒的。他也似乎是我自身更细微的状态。我也感觉到他存在于我所有的前世到今世中，甚至更多。如果我要给他命名，我会称他为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">永恒的观察者</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span>
"The Presence is all pervasive, yet un-intrusive. He seems to be in all
things and observes with utter passiveness. He exists beyond concepts, beliefs
and do not need any form. Therefore, I understand him as eternal. He also seems
to be the subtler state of myself. I also got the feeling that he existed in
all my lifetimes or even more. If I were to name him, I will describe him as
The Eternal Watcher.”<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你可以说，我被这一体验彻底震撼了。</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">永恒的观察者</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">发现</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是一个非常重要的事件，它彻底改变了我对意识的理解方式。这也使我开始非常深入且严肃地思考神圣存在的可能性。这些经历激励我热切地去探索、理解并阐明这一切。我与所有我认为能帮助我解开谜团的人进行了交流。这些人包括通灵者、其他冥想者、走在灵性道路上的人以及新时代运动者。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span> You
can say that I was completely blown away by the experience. The ‘discovery’ of
the Eternal Watcher was a very important event that completely changed the way
I understood consciousness. It also made me contemplated very deeply and
seriously about the possible existence of the Divine. These spurred me on an
ardent search to understand and make sense of it all. I corresponded with
whoever I think can help me unlock the mystery. These people included
clairvoyants, other meditators, people on spiritual paths and new-agers.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">从这些调查中，我发现其他人也有过类似的体验。基于其他人描述的一致性和多样性，有一件事对我来说变得非常确定：一个人远不止是一个能够说话和思考的肉体。人类的人格，也就是我们的性格，仅仅是人类外在意识的一部分。就我们的身份而言，我们的人格不过是冰山一角。在人的心灵深处，还存在着更为细微且常被遮蔽的意识层次。我相信这些内在的意识可能代表着灵魂的不同深度，或者更深远的存在层次。关于永恒的观察者，他始终存在。你没有看到他，并不意味着他不存在。因为临在如此接近心灵，所以不易被察觉。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span> From
these investigations, it was discovered that others have had similar
experiences as well. Based on the consistency and plurality of the descriptions
by others, something becomes very certain to me. That is, a human being is much
more than a body that can talk and think. The Human Personality, which is our
character, is only an outer consciousness of the human. With regard to our
identity, our personality is merely the tip of the iceberg. Within the human
being’s psyche lie much subtler and often-obscured levels of consciousness. I
believe these inner consciousnesses could be the different depths of the Soul
or levels of being-ness even more profound than that. About the Eternal
Watcher, he is ever present. You didn’t see him doesn’t means he is not there.
Because the Presence is so close to the mind, it is not easily perceived.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">感知永恒的观察者是通过对自身呼吸的放松观察实现的。那种极度放松的观察最终变成了一种纯粹被动地让思绪穿过我意识的状态。这反过来又导致我的物质大脑的思维过程逐渐关闭，最终累积成一种</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无思</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的状态。在</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无思</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的过渡阶段之后，我成为了永恒的观察者。体验永恒的观察者并不是一项我可以轻易忽视为无关紧要的练习。我无法假设我对存在和生命的感知能像以前那样保持不变。这样做无疑是在自欺欺人。对我来说，最深刻的体验并非来自于做些什么，而是来自于什么都不做。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span>
Perceiving the Eternal Watcher was achieved through the relaxed observation of
my own breath. The ultra-relaxed observation eventually becomes a purely
passive allowance for thoughts to pass through my consciousness. This, in turn,
led to a gradual shutting down of the mental processes of my physical brain
cumulating into a state of ‘no-thoughts’. Beyond the transitional phase of
‘no-thoughts’, I became the Eternal Watcher. Experiencing the Eternal Watcher
is not an exercise that I can easily brush off as inconsequential. It is not
possible for me to assume that my perception of existence and life can be the
same as before. Doing so will be blatantly self-deceiving. To me, the most
profound experiences where not from doing something. They came from doing
nothing.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我相信永恒的观察者是每个人内在个体化的神</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">源临在。我也相信这种临在正如藏传佛教中所描述的</span>Rigpa<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（本觉）。有些人认为这种临在与超我（</span>Oversoul<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）是相同的。然而，我对此并不十分确定。我希望我没有让你感到困惑。无论如何，验证这一切的唯一方法就是亲自体验这种临在（永恒的观察者）以及这些状态。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span> I
believed the Eternal Watcher is the individualized God/Source Presence within
oneself. I also believe this Presence is Rigpa as described in Tibetan
Buddhism. Some people suggest that the Presence is the same as the Oversoul.
However, I am not too sure about this. I hope I am not confusing you. In any
case, the only way to validate all these is to personally experience the
Presence (Eternal Watcher) and these states for oneself.<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那种</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无思体验</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">并不是我唯一的神秘冥想体验。我也曾体验过成为一片浩瀚的极乐海洋。讽刺的是，那些抱着想要体验某种神秘状态目的而进行的冥想往往最不成功。期待会限制一个人意识能够达到的境界。对我来说，在坐下来冥想之前，保持一颗开放的心更为重要。</span>”<br />
—— <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">由</span> Sim Pern
Chong <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">撰写，写于</span>2004<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年或更早。</span>Sim Pern Chong <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是一位新加坡人，与</span> Soh <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">和</span> John Tan <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一样，并且是在十多年前遇到</span> John Tan <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">后率先领悟</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">与</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">空性</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的人。那时，他已经觉察到我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我多年。参见</span> A Compilation of Simpo's
Writings<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span> That
‘no-thought experience’ was not the only mystical meditative experience. I have
also experienced being a vast ocean of bliss. Ironically, the meditations that
were attempted with an agenda of wanting to experience something mystical are
the ones that are the least successful. Expectation puts a limit on how far
one’s consciousness can go. For me, it was better to keep an open mind before
sitting down to Meditate.” - by Sim Pern Chong, written in 2004 or prior. Sim
Pern Chong is a Singaporean like Soh and John Tan, and was the first to realize
anatta and emptiness after encountering John Tan more than a decade ago. At
that time he already realised I AM for many years. See A Compilation of Simpo's
Writings<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">附后说明：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本译文严格遵循原文结构和逐句翻译原则，每个段落均先呈现完整的简体中文翻译，随后完整复现原文内容。关键佛教术语及概念如</span>“Rigpa”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">、</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">、</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">空性</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">等均已按照要求准确翻译和标注，确保了译文的准确性与完整性。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">此外，译者在保持原文风格与精神的基础上，尽量确保用词精准、语句流畅，未对原文内容进行任何删减或改写，力求为读者呈现一个完整、忠实的双语文本。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border: none; mso-border-bottom-alt: solid windowtext .75pt; mso-element: para-border-div; padding: 0cm 0cm 1.0pt 0cm;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">《</span>Simpo <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">作品集》</span><br />
Soh<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">注：除了下面这些论坛帖子外，我还上传了他在</span>
Dreamdatum <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">上关于灵性成长以及他个人灵性见解的所有文章的存档（这些文章写于</span>
2004 <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年至</span> 2008 <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年期间），在他的网站消失之前。这些存档可从以下网址下载：</span><a href="https://app.box.com/s/vx0baz7mi7" target="_new">https://app.box.com/s/vx0baz7mi7</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">另外，还有一本由</span>
Longchen/Simpo <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">于</span> 2004 <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年期间或之前写的非常旧的电子书，可能也会引起兴趣。不过，该书是基于</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">或</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">永恒见证者</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的理解和体验而写，其理解和体验自那以后已有所改变：</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">点击下载各章节。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">【序言】</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">【如何使用这些文章】（</span>86kb<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">【我们是谁？】（</span>113kb<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">【关于我们真实身份及其与宇宙关系的文章】</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">【我们仅仅是一个身体吗？】（</span>260kb<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">【关于人体能量系统的文章】</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">【杂项文章】（</span>171kb<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">【杂项文章】（来自各种视角和体验的杂项文章）</span><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span><br />
"A Compilation of Simpo's Writings<br />
Soh<br />
Note: In addition to the forum postings below, I have also uploaded an archive
of all his articles from Dreamdatum on spiritual growth and his personal
spiritual insights (which was written in the period between year 2004 to 2008)
before his website disappeared, available for download at: <a href="https://app.box.com/s/vx0baz7mi7" target="_new">https://app.box.com/s/vx0baz7mi7</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Also, there is a very old e-book written by Longchen/Simpo
during/before year 2004, which may also be of interest. However it is spoken
from the understanding/experience of the I AM or Eternal Witness, and his
understandings and experience have since changed:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Click to download in chapters.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Preface<br />
How to use the articles (86kb)<br />
Who are we? (113kb)<br />
Article about our true identity and it's relation with the cosmos.<br />
Are we just a body? (260kb)<br />
Articles about the human energy system.<br />
Miscellaneous Articles(171kb)<br />
Miscellaneous articles written from various perspectives and experiences.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">-----------------"<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">最近，由于论坛似乎即将消失，我编集了一些</span>
Sim Pern Chong<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（他过去使用</span>“simpo”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">或</span>“longchen”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这一笔名）的作品。我在</span> 2007 <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年与来自</span> Mahasi Sayadaw <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">传承的佛法老师</span> Daniel Ingram <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">分享了</span> Sim Pern Chong <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的作品。</span>Daniel <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当时回复我说，他觉得作者</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">写得很好，我印象深刻</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，而且</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">他的文字质量非常出众，我找不到任何毛病。我喜欢他那直截了当、易于理解的风格。</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">并且他说，</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">如果他准确地描述了自己实际所处的位置而没有夸大其词，那么我猜他可能是一位晚期无著者或阿罗汉，但这仅仅是猜测。</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（注：</span>Daniel <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">关于</span>“arahat”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（阿罗汉）的定义基于他书中所描述的非二元模式，即消除所有二元对立、中心点和施为者的状态，此定义可能与其他定义不完全相同。</span>Daniel
Ingram <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">还在多年前接受</span>
Tarin <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">采访时表示，他认为</span>
Thusness <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是一位阿罗汉</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">阿罗汉。）</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">同样，</span>Thusness
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在他的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">七觉支阶段</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">文章中评论道：</span>“Simpo<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>Longchen<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）是一位非常有洞察力和真诚的修行者，他在网站</span> Dreamdatum <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">上写了几篇关于非二元的高质量文章。</span>” <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">既然这些文章质量非同一般，我认为值得与大家分享。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Sim Pern Chong <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在</span>
2007<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">～</span>2012 <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年期间的作品如下：</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span><br />
"Recently I have compiled some of the writings by Sim Pern Chong (who
wrote by the pseudonym 'simpo' or 'longchen' in the past) as the forum seems to
be disappearing. I shared the writings of Sim Pern Chong with the dharma
teacher Daniel Ingram from the Mahasi Sayadaw lineage in 2007. Daniel replied
me back then that he finds the author "writes well and I am
impressed", and furthermore "find his writing to be of unusually good
quality. I can find no fault with what he says. I like his straightforward and
easy style." and that "if he is accurately describing where he
actually is without exaggeration, then I would guess that he is either a late
anagami or arahat, realizing that this is only a guess." (note: Daniel's
definition of 'arahat' is based on the nonduality model described in his book
or the elimination of all sense of duality, centerpoint and agency, and may or
may not correlate with other definitions. Daniel Ingram also said in an
interview with Tarin many years ago that he considers Thusness to be an
Arahat/Arahant)<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Similarly, Thusness commented in his 7 stages article that
"Simpo (Longchen) is a very insightful and sincere practitioner, there are
some very good quality articles written by him regarding non-duality in his
website Dreamdatum." Since these are "unusually good quality" I
think it's worth sharing.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: red;">Update:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="color: red; font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">即使证悟无我，</span><span style="color: red;">John Tan</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="color: red; font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">、</span><span style="color: red;">AtR </span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="color: red; font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">和我都不认为那就是最终的觉悟（这与</span><span style="color: red;"> Daniel Ingram</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="color: red; font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">、</span><span style="color: red;">Kevin Shanilec </span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="color: red; font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">等人所主张的不同）。</span><span style="color: red;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="color: red; font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我们认为对无我的体认是入流果（参见：</span><span style="color: red;">https://www.reddit.com/r/streamentry/comments/igored/insight_buddhism_a_reconsideration_of_the_meaning/?utm_source=share&amp;utm_medium=ios_app&amp;utm_name=iossmf
</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="color: red; font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">以及</span><span style="color: red;">
https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2020/08/insight-buddhism-reconsideration-of.html</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="color: red; font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">），而不是第四果阿罗汉，这一观点是基于经文的。</span><span style="font-family: &quot;.AppleSystemUIFont&quot;,serif; font-size: 13.0pt; line-height: 115%;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; font-size: 13.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ascii-font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody;">我们认为对</span><span style="font-family: &quot;UICTFontTextStyleBody&quot;,serif; font-size: 13.0pt; line-height: 115%;">“</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; font-size: 13.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ascii-font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody;">人法二空</span><span style="font-family: &quot;UICTFontTextStyleBody&quot;,serif; font-size: 13.0pt; line-height: 115%;">”</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; font-size: 13.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ascii-font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody;">的体认是第一地，基于经文的说法（参见：</span><span style="font-family: &quot;UICTFontTextStyleBody&quot;,serif; font-size: 13.0pt; line-height: 115%;">https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2022/07/buddhahood-end-of-all-emotionalmental.html
, </span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; font-size: 13.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ascii-font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody;">）。</span><span style="color: red;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="color: red; font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文</span><span style="color: red;">:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: red;">Update:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: red;">Even after anatta, John Tan, AtR and
I do not consider that as final enlightenment (unlike what Daniel Ingram, Kevin
Shanilec and the likes claim).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: &quot;UICTFontTextStyleBody&quot;,serif; font-size: 13.0pt; line-height: 115%;">We consider the realisation of anatta to be
stream entry (see:
https://www.reddit.com/r/streamentry/comments/igored/insight_buddhism_a_reconsideration_of_the_meaning/?utm_source=share&amp;utm_medium=ios_app&amp;utm_name=iossmf%20
, https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2020/08/insight-buddhism-reconsideration-of.html
) instead of fourth path arahantship, based on suttas.</span><span style="font-family: &quot;.AppleSystemUIFont&quot;,serif; font-size: 13.0pt; line-height: 115%;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: red;">We consider the realization of
twofold emptiness to be first bhumi based on sutras. See:
https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2022/07/buddhahood-end-of-all-emotionalmental.html<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="msoIns"><ins cite="mailto:Soh%20Wei%20Yu" datetime="2025-02-11T16:25"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></ins></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">Sim Pern Chong's writings back in 2007~2012:"<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">[<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">下面是下一部分的翻译。请注意，每个段落先给出完整的简体中文译文，随后附上完整的原文段落内容。如有后续内容，将在下一条消息中继续翻译。</span><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">此外，还有一点需要补充</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">非二元</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">并不等同于一种仅仅处于目击临在状态下观察现象的状态。一个独立于现象之外的永恒见证者的临在，不能说是非二元的，因为这里存在两个成分（见证者与现象）。我以前曾有过这种体验。现在，我必须说明，真正的非二元体验与这种状态截然不同。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">非二元体验只有在</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">自我感</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">和</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">永恒见证者</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">被正确理解其本质时，才能毫不费力地体验到。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></i><br />
"Also, there is another point to add...<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Non-duality is NOT the same as a state of Witnessing
Presence observing Phenomenality. An Eternal Witness Presence that is apart
from Phenomena cannot be said to be non dual as there are 2 components here
(witness and phenomena). I had this experience before. And now, I must say that
true non-duality is distinctively different from this.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Non duality can only be effortlessly experienced when the
'sense of self' and the 'Eternal Witness' are correctly understood for what
they are."<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">脚注</span>/</i><i><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">附注：</span></i><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">此处</span>“Witnessing
Presence”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">译为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">目击临在</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，</span>“Eternal Witness”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">译为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">永恒见证者</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span>“non-duality”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">译为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">非二元</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">开悟是一个渐进的过程</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这篇文章并非关于开悟主题的定论性著述。以下仅仅是我个人经验和发现的表达。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">有人认为开悟只是一个最终的状态。许多人还相信，当一个人经历了某种超越性的或神秘的体验后，那种体验便是终极且完整的。这个假设可能是由广为流传的开悟经典故事所普及的。此外，与这种开悟观念相关的宏大论调，在我看来是完全被过分炒作且不必要的。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我认为，开悟并不只是一个</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">标准的</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">终极状态，而是一系列意识状态逐步建立和转化的渐进过程。这一过程是不断展开和转变的，最终带来对意识动力学越来越清晰的理解。因此，各人和各传统所描述的开悟，可能指的是不同的意识状态。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我个人尚未走到尽头，但在多年的灵性道路上，我可以自信地说，开悟确实发生在一系列自我证悟和自我发现的阶段中。事实上，超越性的或神秘的体验不止一种。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">几乎所有的开悟阶段都与</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">状态有关。然而，临在体验存在着不同程度的清明和强度。其强度直接取决于个人清明程度以及其证悟</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">洞见的深度。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">通常，初次觉醒与后期阶段的稳定性之间存在差异。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">此外，随着个人不断进步，与宇宙和整体存在之间的关系也会变得愈加清晰。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">下面试图说明开悟的分阶段特性：</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当一个人开始修习禅定时，可能会初步体验到无所不在的临在。这种临在通常在思维暂时停顿时出现。这种存在于无时无刻的当下的临在，正是我们真正的本性。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">然而，这种体验只能被归类为对真实本性初步的觉醒</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">具有讽刺意味的是，这种觉醒没有任何个体自我的感觉。原因在于，在禅定结束后，这种临在似乎又消失了。人们无法理解和找到临在与我们日常生活之间的联系。正因如此，人们在重新获得临在时会遇到困难。需要经历多个阶段和一系列证悟，才能理解临在与我们显现世界之间的关系。可以说，维持临在的持续性取决于证悟的阶段和深度。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">此外，在早期阶段，我们可能会误将另一种状态视为纯净的临在。例如，我们可能会误把</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">或永恒见证者当作纯粹临在。这是因为思维创造了一个看似恒常的纯净临在的形象。这个形象就是所谓的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">或永恒见证者，正如人们常描述的那样。基本上，在这个阶段，临在的真正本质尚未被清楚理解。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">通常，为了度过所谓的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">阶段，必须向更深层次的意识理解迈进。这些理解可能包括认识到一个人的自我或个性并不是施为者或行为的控制者。这样的证悟使人能够松动自我感的强烈执着，从而体验到一种</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当下性</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的状态。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这一阶段可能会持续一段时间，直到人们认识到主客二分的幻觉。这个阶段涉及到发现和认识到存在着一个观察者（即自我）与被观察对象之间存在的催眠印象。通常，这整个证悟阶段被称为非二元体验。初步的非二元体验之后，个体可能会达到更为深刻的证悟</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这一证悟表明，一切所体验到的，实际上都是自发呈现的。这种证悟比之前的体验更为微妙，代表着理解上的重大飞跃。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">此外，在开悟过程的进一步阶段中，个体对自己意识的光明感会逐步增强。这种光明是心灵解构的结果，它允许人对意识进行深入穿透。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">虽然可能还有其他未在此描述的阶段，但从上述描述中可以看出，开悟并非简单直接。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">还有一点需要补充：</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">证悟与业障模式的清除是灵性道路上密不可分的。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></i><br />
"Enlightenment is a gradual process<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">This essay is not a definitive writing on this subject of
enlightenment. The following is just an expression of my own experiences and
findings. There seems to be a notion that enlightenment is just one final
state. Many also believe that when one has certain transcendental or mystical
experience, that experience is final and complete. This assumption is perhaps
popularised by the classic stories of enlightenment that are widely known. Also
there is much granduer associated with this notion of Enlightenment which, in
my opinion, is totally overhyped and uncalled for. My opinion is that
enlightenment is not just one 'standard' final state but is a gradual and
progressive establishing of states of consciousness. The process is a succesive
unfoldment and transformation, leading to increasingly clear understanding of
the dynamics of consciousness. So perhaps, enlightenment as described by
various persons and traditions can be referring to different states of
consciousness.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I, myself have not reach the end of the road. But from years
on a spiritual path, I can confidently say that enlightenment happens in a
series or stages of self-realisations and self-discoveries. There are, in fact,
more than one type of transcendental or mystical experience.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Almost all stages of enlightenment can be said to be
associated with states of Presence. However, the Presence comes in various
degrees of clarity and intensity. The degree of intensity is directly dependent
on the level and depth of one's clarity as well as one's
realisations/discoveries. Usually there is a difference between an initial
awakening and a later stabilisation of that stage.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Also, as one progresses along, the relationship or
connections of oneself to the universe and existence in general also becomes
clearer.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Below is an attempt to illustrate the stage-based
characteristic of enlightenment:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">When one first begin meditating, one may have an initial
experience of all-pervading Presence. This Presence, is most often experienced
when thoughts are momentarily suspended. This Presence which exists in the
timeless Present Moment is our true characteristic or nature.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">However such an experience can only be classified as an
initial awakening to the true nature.. which ironically have no sense of being
an individual self. This is because, after the meditation, the Presence seems
to have disappeared. One cannot understand and find the connection of Presence
to our everyday life. Because of that, one will have difficulties re-acquiring
the Presence. And it takes many stages and series of realisation to understand
the relationship of Presence to our phenomenal world. It can be said that the
prolonged sustaining of Presence is dependent upon the stages and depth of
realisation.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Also, during the earlier stages we may mistaken another
state to be the pure pristine presence. For example, we may mistaken 'I AM' or
the Eternal Witness for pure presence. This is because the thinking mind has
created a seemingly constant image of Pure Presence. This image is the I AM or
Eternal Witness, as it is commonly described. Basically, at this stage, the
true characteristic of Presence is not being clearly understood.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Usually, in order to pass through the so-called 'I AM'
stage, the person must move towards even deeper understandings of
consciousness. These understandings may include realising that one's sense of
self or personality is not the doer or controller of action. This realisation
allows one to loosen the 'sense of self's compulsive grip and in the process, a
state of NOWness can be experienced. By NOWness, I am referring to a peaceful
state where the mind is not chasing after thoughts but rather is abiding in the
Present Moment. This stage may persist for sometime before the person realises
the illusion of subject-object division. This stage involves discovering and
recognising the hypnotic impression of there being an observer (which is
oneself) and the being observed. Typically, this is where one begins to see
through the illusionary nature of our phenomenal world. This entire band of
realisation stage is often known as non-dual experience or non-duality. After
the initial experiences of non-duality, the person may reach a even more
profound realisation. This is the realisation that everything that is being
experienced is truly spontaneously manifesting. This realisation is more subtle
than the previous realisation and represents a major leap in understanding.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Also, in the further stages of the enlightenment process,
there are experiences of increasing brightness to one's consciousness. This
brightness is the result of mind's deconstruction which allows for intense
penetration into consciousness. While there may well be other stages not
described here, nevertheless, one can still see from the above description that
enlightenment is not so straight-forward after all.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">One more thing to add. Realisations and karmic pattern
clearing go hand in hand on the spiritual path.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是的</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我曾长时间停留在</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">层面的理解上。正是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">如是</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>Thusness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）探查并引导我超越了那个阶段。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Yep... I stayed at I AM level understanding for many years. It was
Thusness who probed and guided me to move beyond that phase."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"..."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">【证悟】</span><br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">证悟</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">提示：</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（注：以下对话中</span>“realization”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">均译为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">证悟</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。）</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
realization: Oh yes Simpo, can I just ask how you realised the I AM years ago?<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
Simpo<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：其实有两件意义重大的事件：</span><o:p></o:p></p><ol start="1" style="margin-top: 0cm;" type="1">
 <li class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在</span>1980<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年代，当我还是个青少年时，我第一次坐下来打坐。那时我体验到了极大的喜悦。在那次禅修中，我体会到了</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">没有终极对错</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的状态，也就是非评判状态，并且连续几天浸润在一片浩瀚的喜悦之海中。哈哈</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我当时以为自己开悟了。事后回想，现在我知道那时我并未真正开悟。这也是为何如今当人们谈论非二元、意指</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">没有对错</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">时，我能明白他们所处的阶段。</span><o:p></o:p></li>
</ol><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Simpo: There are actually 2 significant events:<o:p></o:p></p><ol start="1" style="margin-top: 0cm;" type="1">
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     the 1980s when i was a teenager, i sat down to meditate for the first
     time. I experienced great bliss. In this meditation, i experienced 'no
     ultimate right or wrong' aka non-judgemental and is soaked in a vast ocean
     of bliss for a few days. Haha... i thought i was enlightened. On hindsight
     now, i know that i was not. That is why now when people write about
     non-dual to meant 'no right/wrong' I know which stage they are at."<o:p></o:p></li>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
2. <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在</span>1990<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年代，我参加了一个每周日在一座佛寺举行打坐课程的禅修班。我当时在学习</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一点集中禅</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（奢摩他：止修；制心一处；一心专注的定修）。有一个下午，当我在家打坐时，所有感官印象都停止了，包括思维。我进入了</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无思</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">状态。有人可能会认为当没有思维时，就必定进入了无意识状态，但实际上并非如此。相反，我体验到的是纯粹的临在</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">觉知。然而，由于我当时对意识和现实的本质尚未完全理解，这种觉知被我解读为永恒见证者</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">观察者，也就是那种纯粹的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">体验。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"2. In the 1990s, i join a meditation class that held sessions every
Sunday at a Buddhist temple. I was learning one-point meditation. One afternoon
when i was meditating at home, all the sensory impressions stopped including
thoughts. I was in a state of 'No-thoughts'. One may think that when there are
no thoughts, one must be unconscious. No there is no unconsciousness. Instead
what was being experienced was pure Presence/awareness. However due to not
understanding the nature of consciousness and reality, this awareness was
experienced as an Eternal Witness/Observer. This is the pure experience of I AM
presence."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"..."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就我而言，那初次的体验发生在一次打坐中，促使我错误地以为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">即是真相。那体验是纯粹的，但后来的解读却走偏了。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"In my case, the initial experience happened during a meditation which led
me to the misassumption of 'I AM'. The experience is pure, but the latter
interpretation of it was wrong."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">体验中，人们简单地证悟到，在任何体验中都不存在自我，即便意识依然在运转。思维可以存在，但却没有</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">思者</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"In 'No-I' experience, one simply realised that there is no self in any
experience even when consciousness is rolling own. There can be thinking, but
there is no thinker."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">另一方面，在完全的意识空白状态下，虽然觉知依然存在，但既没有任何思维，也没有任何形式的心识构造。基本上，没有思维、没有心像，也没有我们通常所具有的任何形式的意识。这种体验十分独特，因为正是这种体验使人首次能够分辨出混合了思维的意识与纯粹临在之间的区别。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"On the other hand, in complete consciousness blank-out, yet awareness
persists, there is not a single thought or any form of mental formation.
Basically, there is no thinking, no mental image or any form of consciousness
that we normally have. It will be distinctive because it is this experience
that will allow one to see for the first time the difference between
mental-mixed consciousness and pure presence."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">完全关闭心智构造但觉知仍存的状态，并不等同于睡眠。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Complete mental formation shut down and yet awareness still exist, it is
not the same as sleep."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就我个人而言，我觉得没有必要在睡眠中保持那种见证的状态。实际上，这更多地是出于一种想要体验临在的渴望。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Personally, I don't see a point in maintaining witnessing even into
sleep. It is really a desire to have that expereince of Presence."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">嗨，</span>Criable <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">和</span> Jamber<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">非常感谢你们的分享。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我想补充一点个人意见。由于我们都还在探索，这些意见并非最终定论。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Hi Criable and Jamber,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks so much for the sharing.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Will like to just add a bit of my input. Nothing definitive
as we are all exploring."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
Jamber <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">所见的视觉效果和像素，并不是我们所讨论的那种光明（</span>luminousity<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。真正的光明更多是一种体验性的清明。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"The visual effects and pixels that Jamber sees is not the luminosity that
we are taking about. The luminousity is more an experiential clarity."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在体验和理解光明方面，在证悟</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">之前和之后存在显著的区别。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"There is a significant difference between experiencing/understanding the
luminosity before and after realisation of no-self."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在未证悟无我之前，任何纯粹的觉知</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">意识体验都会被解读为自我存在。换句话说，那体验会被理解为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我有一次自我的体验</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Before the realisation of no-self, any pure awareness/consciousness
experience will be interpreted as the Self. In another word, the experience
will be ' I have an experience of the Self.'"<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">而在证悟无我之后，觉知的体验可能就不再被</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">所体验。换句话说，</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">有一次体验，但并不是由我来体验</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"After realisation of no-self, the awareness experience may not be
experienced by a someone who is me. In another word, 'there is an experience,
but it is not experienced by me'."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这种差别在于，自我</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我感并非是一个实体，而只是对那被魔法般的觉知抓取所产生的一种短暂效应。所以，</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的体验实际上是一种微妙的无知，给体验染上一层色彩</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">而这种微妙的执著也可能出现在纯觉知的体验中。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"The difference is that the ego/sense of self/me/I is not an entity but a
transcient effect of grasping that spell-bound awareness into a sense of an
individual self having experiences. So the 'I' experience is a subtle
'ignorance' that tint an experience... and this subtle grasping can also be
present in the experience of pure consciousness."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"..."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我认为</span>
Eckhart Tolle <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">可能曾饱受痛苦，突然他放下了试图解决问题的执著。这导致了他与思维的分离，从而引发了临在的体验。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"I think Eckhart Tolle may have been suffering alot and suddenly he 'let
go' of trying to work out his problems. This results in a dissociation from
thoughts which give rise to the experience of Presence."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">对我来说，</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是一种临在体验，只是这种体验只呈现了临在中的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无处不在</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这一面。无二和空性的方面并未被体验</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">因为在</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">阶段，还未证悟到无二，个人可能仍会努力试图</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">进入</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在状态。这是因为在</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">阶段，人们错误地认为存在一个由思维构成的相对世界，并且存在一个</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">绝对的源头</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在观察它。处于</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">阶段的人会试图从相对世界中</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">分离出来</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，以便进入那个</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">绝对源头</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"To me, 'I AM' is an experience of Presence, it is just that only one
aspect of Presence is experienced which is the 'all-pervading' aspect. The
non-dual and emptiness aspect are not experienced.. Because non-dual is not
realised (at I AM stage), a person may still use effort in an attempt to
'enter' the Presence. This is because, at the I AM stage, there is an erroneous
concept that there is a relative world make up of thoughts AND there is an
'absolute source' that is watching it. The I AM stage person will make attempts
to 'dissociated from the relative world' in order to enter the 'absolute
source'."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">然而，在无二（以及更进一步</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）的阶段，个人已明白，相对世界与绝对源头之间的划分从未发生过，也不可能发生</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">因此，根本无需再作任何努力或尝试。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"However, at Non-dual (&amp; further..) stage understanding, one have
understood that the division into a relative world and an absolute source has
NEVER occcured and cannot be... Thus no attempt/effort is truly required."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"..."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
Sim Pern Chong <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也在</span>2022<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年写道：</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Sim Pern Chong also wrote in 2022:"<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">仅代表我的个人观点</span>……<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就我而言，我第一次体验到明确的</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在时，脑中完全没有思维，只有一种无边界、无处不在的临在。实际上，当时没有任何思维或寻找</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这是否就是我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的动作。没有任何概念活动。直到那次体验之后，我才把它解读为</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">对我来说，</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的体验实际上只是窥见了现实的本质</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但随后这种体验很快就被重新解读。</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无边界</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这一属性得到了体验，但其他诸如</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无主客</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">、</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">透明的光明</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">、</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">空性</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">等属性却尚未被理解。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我的看法是，当你体验到</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">时，你会毫无疑问地知道那就是那（</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的）体验。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Just my opinion... For my case, the first time i experienced a definitive
I AM presence, there was zero thought. just a borderless, all pervading
presence. In fact, there was no thinking or looking out for whether this is I
AM or not. There was no conceptual activity. It was interpreted as 'I AM' only
after that experience. To me, I AM experience is actually a glimpse of the way
reality is.. but it is quickly re-interpreted. The attribute of
'borderlessness' is experienced. but other 'attributes such as 'no
subject-object', 'transparent luminosity, emptiness are not understood yet. My
take, is that when 'I AM' is experienced, you will be doubtless that it is the
experience."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"..."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">她（清海无上师</span>
Supreme Master Ching Hai<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）绝对处于</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">阶段。她尚未证悟到</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无主客分裂</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。这就是她所说的存在两个部分</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">身体与精神。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"She (Supreme Master Ching Hai) is definitely at 'I AM' stage. She has not
yet understood 'no subject-object split'. That is why she say there are 2
parts... body and spirit."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">对于证悟了无二（无主客分裂）的修行者来说，身体与精神不再被视为分离的实体。在无二证悟中，身体仅仅被看作是感知和触觉的现象，其实感知和触觉本身就构成了</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">环境</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"For one who realises non-duality (no subject-object split) there is no
division of body and spirit. At non-duality realisation, body is not seen as
entity but as perceptions and sensations that are 'not separated from
environment'. In fact perception and sensation is the 'environment'."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"..."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这条主题让我想起了上个月的一件事。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我在一个购物中心，看到一个店面宣传</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">普拉那与阿罗汉瑜伽课程</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"This thread reminds me of one incident last month.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I was in one shopping center and i saw a shopfront
advertising Prana and Arhatic Yoga course."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">出于好奇，我便走了进去看看。我与里面的一位人士聊了起来。我想她是这课程的工作人员或学员。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Well, naturally, i was curious and went in to have a look. I have a chat
with one of the persons inside. I think she is a staff or student of the
course."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我翻阅了宣传册，并问她为什么瑜伽课程会用</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">阿罗汉</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这个词。另一位女士听到后插话，说这个课程定位与佛教阿罗汉的层次相同。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"I was looking through the brochures and ask her why the word 'Arhat' was
used for the Yoga course. Another lady overhead the conversation and say that
the course is pitching at the same level as the Buddhist Arhat."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在浏览了一些宣传册后，我告诉她两者并不相同。她似乎很匆忙，便叫我去看看他们的网站。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Having browsed thru some of the brochures, I told her it is not the same.
She seems to be in a hurry and asked me to check out their website."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我查看了他们的网站。他们的老师谈论的是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一体的证悟。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"I check out their website. Their teacher talk about I AM oneness
realisation."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的确，那并非与阿罗汉相同的证悟层次。那位老师仅停留在</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">层面的理解。遗憾的是，追随者无法分辨其中的区别。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Indeed, it is not the same level of realisation as the Arhat. The teacher
is at I AM level understanding. It is sad that the followers cannot tell the
difference."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">人们做生意、从中获利。因此，我认为最好不要去扰乱他们的生计，也很难让他们相信我所说的</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"People are doing business and earning from it. So, i thought better not
to disrupt their livelihood by telling them. Also, the chances of them
believing what i say will be very slim..."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"..."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">轮回（</span>Samsara<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）也不是一个</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">地方</span>”……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这绝非打字错误。直到你证悟了无二，这点你才会明白。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Samsara is also not place.. this is not a typo error. You will not understand
this until non-duality is experienced."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">此在</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">、</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">距离</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">以及时间都只是印象。它们给人以</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">地方</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的幻觉。这也解释了</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">超自然能力</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（例如透视和远距离看物）的本质。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"'Hereness', 'distance' and time are just impressions. They give the
'illusionary' impression of places. This also explains the nature of
'supernatural power' like clairvoyance and seeing things far away, etc."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"..."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">【存在的非固态性】</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这篇文章描述了一种灵性洞见，可能较难理解。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我们所体验到的事物通过所有感官被接收：眼睛记录视觉，耳朵记录声音，身体记录触觉。这些感知、触觉和体验并非发生在某个具体的地方，而是某些条件生起的体验。实际上，在真实体验中不存在固态性和物质性。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"The non-solidity of existence<br />
This article describes a spiritual insight. It may be quite hard to understand.<br />
The things that we experience are registered by all the sense organs. The eye
sight registers vision, the ears register sound, the body registers sensations.
These perception, sensations and experiences are not happening in some places.
They are the experience of the arising of certain conditions. There is no
solidity and physicality in the actual experience."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我们所体验的并非对所有人都普遍通用。举个例子：作为人类，我们以颜色来感知世界；但有些动物是色盲，因此它们看到的与我们不同。然而，我们没有人能直接看到事物的真相。不同物种的感官对事物的体验各不相同。那么，究竟是谁在看事物的真实形象呢？答案是：没有人。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"What we experienced is not universal and common to all. Here's an example
to illustrate that: We know that as human beings, we see in term of colours.
Some animals are however colour-blind, thus they see differently from us. But
none of us, is really seeing the truth nature directly. The senses of different
species of sentient beings experience things differently. So who is seeing the
real image of an object? None."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">同样，各种存在层面的显现都是由不同条件生起所致。在某些禅定中，据说人们可以接触到这些存在层面。这是因为它们并非某个具体的位置，而是一种心态，因此具有非定域性。在这些禅定中，我们的意识发生变化，并</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">与</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这些其他状态或存在层面对齐。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">所有存在层面同时显现，但由于我们的感官受制于人类特有的条件性生起，我们只能看到人类世界以及其他与我们具有</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">相似</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">共振生起条件的众生。然而，其他存在层面并不在某个别处。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Likewise, the various planes of existence are due to different conditions
arising. In certain types of meditation, one is said to be able to access these
planes of existence. This is because they are not specific locations. They are
mental states and are thus non-localised. In these meditations, our
consciousness changes and 'aligned' more with these other states or planes of
existence.<br />
All the planes of existence are simultaneously manifesting, but because our
senses are human-based conditioned arisings, we only see the human world and
other beings that shared 'similar' resonating arising conditions. But
nevertheless, the other planes of existences are not elsewhere in some other
places."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我们所认为的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">地方</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">其实仅仅是意识的表现，根本不存在任何固态性。即便是我们的触觉，也只是给人一种感觉到物理、三维实在的印象，但实际上根本不存在一个固有自存的物体；那只是一种让人感觉有物质感和形状的触感印象。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"What we think of as places are really just consciousness and there is no
solidity whatsoever. Even our touch sense is just that. The touch sense gives
an impression of feeling something that is physical and three-dimensional. But
there is really no solid self-existing object there. Instead, it is simply the
sensation that gives the impression of physical solidity and form."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">好吧，这就是我目前对这个话题所能想到和写下的全部。我会在必要时修订和完善这篇文章。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">供你深思。谢谢阅读。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"OK, that all I can think of and write about this topic. I will revise and
improve this article where the need arises.<br />
For your necessary ponderance. Thank you for reading."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"..."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">嗨，各位，</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我觉得有必要澄清，佛教中的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">空性</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">并不等同于</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">虚无</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">或</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">生活缺乏意义</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，以免被误解。许多人，甚至来自其他路径的神秘主义者和灵性行者，都有这种误解，因此将佛教标榜为悲观主义。这远非事实。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Hi People,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I feel a need to clarify that emptiness (in Buddhism) is not
the same as 'nothingness' or 'lack of meaning in life', lest it gets
misunderstood. Many people, even mystics and spiritual walkers from other
paths, have this misunderstanding and therefore label Buddhism as pessimistic.
This is far from the truth."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">空性是一种必须亲自证悟后才能理解的体验。大致来说，它包含了一种理解：没有固态性、没有空间、没有时间、没有定域性。表面上看，世界似乎存在距离、空间、时间和固态性，但这并非真相。实际上，一切都是以</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">同时发生</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的（虽然这个说法不够准确，但目前也没有更好的表述）</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无时</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的方式在进行</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">然而，常规的感官和意识数据通常无法让我们穿透表象，体验到空性。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Emptiness is a realisation that needs to be experienced to be understood.
It roughly encompasses an understanding that there is no solidity, no space, no
time, no locality, etc. Looking at the way the world seems to be, it appear
that there are distances, space and time and solidity. But this is not what the
truth is like. Everything is actually occuring 'simultaneously' (not accurate,
but no better word for this) in a 'timeless' manner... but the conditions of
experiences (sensory and consciousness data) normally will not allow us to
penetrate through to experience emptiness."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">只有通过证悟，才能穿透这层面纱。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Only insights can penetrate through the veil."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">【以下内容较长，接下来的翻译将在下一条消息中继续。】</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">[<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">关于</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">业力教训</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，业力乃是指欲望／执着在无意识状态下运作。正因为它们在无意识中运作，我们并不察觉其运行方式，因此它们继续</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">掌控局面</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。所以，业力教训与放下执着并不是彼此不同或对立的活动。正念修习有助于揭露这些无意识中的欲望、假设和印记。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"As for 'karmic lessons', karma is about desires/attachment operating in
an unconscious manner. Because they are operating in an unconscious manner, we
are not aware of their operations and therefore they continue to 'run the
show'. So, karmic lessons and losing attachment are not different or opposing
activities. Mindfulness practice helps in uncovering these unconscious
desires/assumptions/imprints etc."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"..."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">还有一件事我想补充，即</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">自我／我感</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本身就是一种主要的业力模式。它使我们以一个参照中心来看待事物。</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">即是那种执着或欲望，它创造了一个供体验参照的中心。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"One thing will like to add is that the 'sense of self/I' is itself a
chief karmic pattern. It make us see things through a referencing center. 'I'
is the grasping/desire that creates a center where experiences are referenced
to."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">因证悟而消解后，体验便失去了中心。此并不意味着一切变成了空白。人依然可以按常运作，但不再存在所谓的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">中心</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。正因为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是执着并造成主客分裂的根源，紧随而来的紧张也随之消散。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"When the 'I' dissapears through recognition, experiences has no center.
This does not mean that all is now a blank. One still can operate as per
normal, but there is no 'center'. As 'I' is the grasping and the splitter of
subject/object division, tension goes away together with it."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"..."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">请不要等到最后一刻才开始进行灵修实践。到那时，时间可能不再站在你这一边，许多人很可能已经处于极度绝望的状态，以至于无法采取任何有用的纪律来获得某种证悟。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Please don't wait until the last minute to start a regime of spiritual
cultivation practice. By that time, time will not be not their side and many
will likely be too desperate to engage in any useful form of discipline to
reach some kind of realisations."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">最近，我看到周围有太多老人处境艰难。他们中许多人没有修行佛法，在绝望时刻寻求任何能提供拯救的信仰。这很令人悲哀，如果他们早些进行修行并达到一定的证悟，死亡就不会成为如此可怕的未知。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Lately, i have seen too many cases of elderly people around me in dire
straits. Many of them are not practicing buddhist and in the times of
desperation seeks for whatever belief that will offer them a saviour. This is
sad, had they been cultivating and reaching certain level of
insights/realisation, death will not be such a fearful unknown."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我所试图表达的是：包括专注、内观证悟和持戒<span class="msoIns"><ins cite="mailto:Soh%20Wei%20Yu" datetime="2025-02-12T00:11">（指：戒定慧）</ins></span>在内的灵修实践的严格训练，需要长时间的积累才能见到成果。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"What i was trying to convey is that a regimentation of practice inclusive
of activities for concentration, insight practice and morality takes a long
time to build up to see the results."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">可能需要数年甚至几十年，才能初步窥见更深层次的现实或觉悟。请现在就开始灵修实践，别再拖延。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"It can take years/decade to just get an initial glimpse of deeper reality
or awakening. Please start the spiritual cultivation practice now. Don't
wait."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
Likeyou: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你的意思是仅仅通过简单的诵念？祈祷？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">抱歉，兄弟</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我不太确定。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Likeyou: 'You mean by simple chanting? Praying?<br />
Sorry bro....I am not sure.'"<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
Simpo:<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">嗨，</span>Likeyou<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无论采用何种方法，只要能使人证悟到自身或更深层现实的真性，都可以使用。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Simpo:<br />
Hi Likeyou,<br />
By whatever means that will bring one to the experience/insight of the true
nature of themselves or deeper reality."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我没有用过诵念，所以不太熟悉这一方法。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">对我而言，打坐是必不可少的修行。我第一次窥见纯觉知，正是通过那简单的一点集中禅修（奢摩他：止修；制心一处；一心专注的定修）。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"I have not used chanting so am not familiar with it.<br />
For me, meditation is a must have practice. The first glimpse of pure awareness
that i had was through the simple one-point meditation/concentration."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我想表达的是：包括专注、内观证悟和持戒（指：戒定慧）在内的灵修实践的严格训练，需要长时间的积累才能见到成果。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">祝好！</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"What i was trying to convey is that a regimentation of practice inclusive
of activities for concentration, insight practice and morality takes a long
time to build up to see the results.<br />
Regards"<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">最好的办法是努力追求开悟。故事到此结束。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Best to strive for enlightenment. End of story."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">【证悟】</span><br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">证悟：那么，</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">可以通过一点集中禅修（奢摩他：止修；制心一处；一心专注的定修）来证悟，而不必完全依靠探究吗？</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Realization: 'So, the I AM may be realised via one-pointed meditation and
does not have to come from investigation?'"<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
Simpo: “<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这要看情况。我认识一些人终其一生都在打坐，却从未证悟</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">如果你能跳过</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">阶段，直接证悟无我，那是最好的</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就不用像我那样浪费时间。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="color: red; font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span><span style="color: red;">Soh</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="color: red; font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的评论：</span><span style="color: red;">“</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="color: red; font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">关于是否必须经历</span><span style="color: red;">‘</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="color: red; font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是觉悟</span><span style="color: red;">’</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="color: red; font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">阶段，或者我们可以直接跳到无我</span><span style="color: red;">——</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="color: red; font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">约翰</span><span style="color: red;">·</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="color: red; font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">谭、我和</span><span style="color: red;">Sim
Pern Chong</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="color: red; font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这些年来对此问题的看法各有分歧且不断演变（我记得</span><span style="color: red;">Sim Pern Chong</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="color: red; font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">曾说他认为人们完全可以跳过这一阶段，约翰也曾疑问是否可能或明智，因为某些</span><span style="color: red;">AF</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="color: red; font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的人似乎跳过了这一阶段却体验到了灵光），然而，经过观察人们的进展，我们认为那些没有经历</span><span style="color: red;">‘</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="color: red; font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是觉悟</span><span style="color: red;">’</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="color: red; font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就进入无我阶段的人，往往会错过灵光及其强烈程度，之后还得经历另一个阶段。对于那些经历了</span><span style="color: red;">‘</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="color: red; font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是觉悟</span><span style="color: red;">’</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="color: red; font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的人来说，无我的第二阶段显现得非常容易，实际上这是最先变得明显的方面。如今，</span><span style="color: red;">John</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="color: red; font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">和我认为，最好还是先经历</span><span style="color: red;">‘</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="color: red; font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span><span style="color: red;">’</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="color: red; font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">阶段，再进入非二元和无我阶段</span><span style="color: red;">……<br />
</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="color: red; font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">还有一种担心是，带领人们进入</span><span style="color: red;">‘</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="color: red; font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span><span style="color: red;">’</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="color: red; font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">阶段可能会使他们停滞不前。（正如</span><span style="color: red;">John Tan</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="color: red; font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">和</span><span style="color: red;">Sim Pern Chong</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="color: red; font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">曾在那一阶段停留了数十年）</span><span style="color: red;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但我已经证明，从</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">到无我，完全有可能在八个月内相当迅速地取得进展。所以，停滞不前是由于缺乏正确的指引和方向，而不是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本身的问题。</span>” — Soh<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，</span>2020<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">稍微给你点建议：当你以鼻尖呼吸为焦点打坐时，不要认为你正在打坐。怎么说呢</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不要以为有一个</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在打坐。同时，只需觉知呼吸，不要刻意控制呼吸。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">此外，姿势非常重要，脊柱不应依靠墙壁。保持脊柱和颈部挺直会有所帮助。也许可以用一个垫子将臀部稍微抬高一些，使臀部位置高于盘腿的位置。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当心智不再想着过去或未来，也不在做梦时，而是安住于当下，就会体验到</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。专注于呼吸是一种使心智与当下立即对齐的方法。有许多体验</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在的方式</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">只要能切断对思维或内容的执着，就可以。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你甚至可以在不打坐、睁开眼的情况下体验</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。只需直视开阔的空间，放松身心。一个开阔的空间或田野会更有助于在这种状态下体验到它。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">愿你早日体验到纯觉知！</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Simpo: 'It depends. I know of people who meditate the entire life and
still never reach I AM.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">If you can bypass I AM phase and realise no-self (straight)
is the best.. dun need to waste time like i did.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: red;">(Comments by Soh: “Regarding whether
it is important to go through I AM realization or can we skip to anatta -- John
Tan and I and Sim Pern Chong have had differing and evolving opinions about
this over the years (I remember Sim Pern Chong saying he thinks people can skip
it altogether, John also wondered if it is possible or advisable as certain AF
people seem to have skipped it but experience luminosity), however after
witnessing the progress of people it seems to us that those who went into
anatta without the I AM realization tend to miss out the luminosity and
intensity of luminosity. And then they will have to go through another phase.
For those with I AM realization, the second stanza of anatta comes very easily,
in fact the first aspect to become more apparent. Nowadays John and my opinion
is that it is best to go through the I AM phase, then nondual and anatta..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: red;">There was also the worry that by
leading people into the I AM, they can get stuck there. (As John Tan and Sim
Pern Chong was stuck there for decades)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: red;">But I have shown that it is possible
to progress rather quickly (in eight months) from I AM to anatta. So the being
stuck is due to lack of right pointers and directions, not inherently an issue
with I AM.” - Soh, 2020)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">To help a bit, when you meditate by focusing on the breathe
at the tip of the nose, do not think that you are meditating. How do i explain
it... dun think that there is a person (you) meditating. Also, just be aware of
the breathe.. don't breath deliberately.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Also, the posture is very important, the spine should not be
supported by a wall. A straight spine and neck posture will help. Perhap use a
support to lift the buttock above the ground abit so that the buttock position
is higher that the cross legs.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">'I AM' will be experienced when the mind is not thinking
about the past or the future or is having any kind of dreaming... but is
abiding in the Present. Focusing on the breathe is a method to align the mind
to the immediate Present moment.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">There can be many ways to experience the I AM presence as
long as the method can cut off grasping on the thoughts/content. When mind is
detached from thoughts content, the only activities that is left is the
automatic breathing action.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">You can experience I AM while not meditating and with eyes
open too. Simply look straight ahead into open space and relax. An open space
or field will be more conducive to experiencing it under such condition.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">May you experience pure awareness soon !"<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"..."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">头顶有刺痛感可能意味着，一个人正在释放或放下足够的思维活动，以便尽快体验到纯觉知／光明。通常，这还会伴随身体自动调整以使脊柱挺直。在光明与广阔感开启之时，双眼可能会睁得很大，以匹配能量激增和光明的量子跃迁。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Tingling at the tip of the head could possibly mean that one is
releasing/dropping enough mental activity to experience pure
awareness/luminousity soon. Often, this will be accompanied by the automatic
repositioning of body to straighten the spine. At the opening of luminosity and
spaciousness, the eyes may open very wide to match the quantum leap in energy
surge and luminosity."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"..."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是的，先生</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这确实非常真实。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">关于</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">自我／我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的问题，当我们独处、不与他人互动时，更容易察觉到；而在与他人互动时，则较难看清</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就我而言，吃饭和走路是最容易体验</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的活动。那时，只有动作，没有</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的介入。咀嚼就是咀嚼，走路就是走路</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">纯粹的行动。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当我们与他人互动时，要看清</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就更加困难，因为互动本身就暗示着存在其他人。但这并非不可能。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我才刚刚开始进入更深层的阶段</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">所以帮不上太多忙。我认为关键在于敢于放下将他人视为分离个体的执著。这与放下所有思维不同</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">因为要保持交流，仍必须动用思维。依我之见，也许在这一阶段能稳定维持之前，必须首先清楚理解空性的真谛。因为空性的证悟包含了</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无他人</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的洞见。若没有对空性的清晰洞见，心智很难确信</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无我、无他人</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Yah, Sir... that is very true indeed.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">About the 'self/I', it is easier to identify it when we are
alone... and is not interacting with others.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">For my case, eating and walking are the easiest activties to
be 'no-self'. There are just the actions without the 'I' there. Chewing is
chewing, walking is walking...just pure action.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">It is alot more difficult to see 'no-self' when we are
interacting with others. This is because the very act of interacting with other
implies there are others to interact with oneself. However it is possible.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I am just beginning to enter deeper into this phase... so
can't be of much help. The key, that i see, is the daringness to drop the
attachment of seeing others as separate. This is different from dropping all
thoughts... because to maintain communication thoughts must be deployed. IMO,
perhaps, before this phase can be maintained with any level of stability, a
clear understanding of emptiness is firstly required. This is because the
realisation of emptiness encompasses the insight that there is no-others. Without
the clear insight of emptiness, it is very hard for the mind to be convinced
that there are no one and no others."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"..."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">嗨，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我记得我过去几世的一些经历，并能自信地说，生活中发生的一些事情（以及人们对它们的反应），都与前世所经历的有关。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Hi, I can remember some of my past lifes and can confidently say that
certain things that happened (and how one respond to it) in life is due to what
transpired in previous lifes."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">另外，既然我们在讨论业力的话题，我也想分享一些关于福报（</span>Merit<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）的看法。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这听起来可能有些争议，福报似乎对一个人获得开悟的潜力以及顺利程度有显著影响。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Also, since we are at the topic of karma, will also like to share some
opinions on Merit. It may sound controversial, merit appears to be an
influential factor regarding one's potential and level of 'smoothness' for
gaining enlightenment."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"..."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">嗨，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">关于福报的定义以及如何获得福报，其实并不难找到答案，所以我就不详细写了。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">基本上，我的理解是：佛法是引导众生脱离苦难与轮回的机制。因此，能促进正确理解佛法、使人们接触佛法的活动，有利于一个人对佛法的正确理解和在修行道路上的进步。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">同样，妨碍或混淆他人对佛法理解的活动，将会导致修行道路上的障碍和困惑。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我们不必走太远就能看到这种效果。已经有不少人在这个论坛上因混淆佛法而导致自己也陷入困惑。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Hi, The definition of merits and how to acquire them are not difficult to
find. So, will not write about them. Basically, my understanding is that the
Dharma Teaching is the mechanism for leading Beings out of suffering and the
rebirth cycle. So activities that promotes its right understanding and peoples'
contact with the Dharma benefits ones' right understanding and progress along
the path.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Likewise, activities that obstruct or confuse others with
regards to the Dharma, will result in obstruction and confusion on the path.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">We don't have to go far to see this effect. Already there
are people patronising this forum who are experiencing the effect of confusing
others with regards to the teaching, leading to their own confusion."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"..."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">感谢大家的分享。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这一部分很好地描述了我在</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">阶段所尝试做的事情</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Thanks for the sharing. This part described what i tried to do during 'I
AM' stage very well...."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">伴随着（</span>b)<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的观念的是：第一，她与某个（理想的）事物相分离；第二，由于自我动机驱使，她去</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">获得</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">或</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">实现</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">它。主体打算与客体</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">融合</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。但主体不明白，在非二元的</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">融合</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">中，主体和客体都会消解。此处的主体期望保持为一个实体，从中附加上（不同寻常的）体验。这是一种令人窒息、令人沮丧的追求，是一场不断</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">到达</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">而必然</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">离去</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的枯竭循环。但由于暂时停止了</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">概念化</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的自我思维，有时它被误认为是所谈论的</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">解脱</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Attendant to b) is the notion that (first) she is apart from something
(desirable); and (second) is driven, by ego motivation, to "attain"
or "achieve" it. Subject proposes to "merge" with object.
But subject does not comprehend that in a non-dual "merging" both
subject and object dissolve. The subject, here, expects to remain an entity to
which an (unusual) experience is to be added. It is a stultifying, frustrating
pursuit, a deadening cycle of "arriving" and inevitably
"departing". But because of the (temporary) suspension of
"conceptual," egoic thought, it is sometimes presumed to be the
"liberation" which is spoken about."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">依我看，一个真正的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我临在</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">阶段将会揭示出现实中那种无处不在、非局部性的本质</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这与仅仅是伪体验、想象或视觉化一束照亮我们的光不同。有时，</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">阶段也可能显露出光明／光的特性。但就我而言，光明方面的体验是在后期出现的。依我看，这取决于那一阶段的具体体验。依我看，光明体验源自对感知的解构；依我看，无方所性体验则源自心识或思维构造的完全悬置。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"IMO, a real' I AM Presence' stage will reveal much about the
non-local/all-pervading aspect of reality.... unlike a pseudo experience of
visualising/imagining a light that overlight us. Sometimes, the I AM stage may
also reveal the luminous/light aspect as well. But for my case, the luminousity
aspect was experienced later. IMO, it depends on how that stage was
experienced. IMO, Luminousity is experienced due to the deconstruction of
perception. IMO, Non-locality is experienced due to the total suspension of
mental formation/thoughts."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">非二元性将揭示出一个洞见：自我从来不存在于具体的层面。起初，体验似乎是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">平面</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">哈哈</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我不知道如何描述。在非二元状态中，会有一个逐渐成熟的过程（由不同阶段的洞见构成）</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在早期阶段，我们可能会试图消解或去除自我；而在后期状态，我们开始认识到</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">去除</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的行为本身也是一种自我。到了更后阶段，会出现一种</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">即时</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的证悟</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这种证悟如何描述最适合由个人亲自体验来体会。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Non-dual will reveal the insight that all along the self does not exist
in a concrete manner. It will first be experienced as if experiences are
'flat'... ha ha... i dunno how to describe. In non-dual, there is a gradual
maturing process (consisting of distinctive stage of insights)... where the
self aspect gets better understood. In the early stage, we may try to dissolve
or get rid of the self. In the later state, we begin to realise that the
getting rid act is also a sense of self. Later on stage, there is an
'immediate' realisation...which i dunno how to describe and best experienced
for oneself."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我还想补充，虽然</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">放下</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">并非真正的非二元体验，但它是修行中非常重要的一部分。缓慢而渐进的放下练习，有助于为各种洞见的出现创造空隙。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Will like to add that although 'letting go' is not the actual non-duality
experience, it is an important part of practice. Slowly and gradually, the
practice of letting go helps in creating gaps for the insights to occur."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"..."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">依我看，非二元与无我洞见之间存在区别。这两种体验虽然非常相似，但其洞见与理解却不同。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在非二元中，证悟在于没有主客分裂；而在无我中，证悟在于没有作为中介的施为者</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">主体（</span>agent<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我的存在。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"IMO, there is a difference between non-duality and no-self insight. Both
experiences are quite similar, but the insight/understanding is different. In
non-duality, the realisation is that there is no subject-object division. In
no-self, well... the realisation is that there is no medium agent of a
self."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">依我看，万事万物的生起与消逝体验源自无我洞见，而并非来自非二元证悟。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"IMO, the arising and passing away experience stems from the insight of
no-self. It do not result from the non-dual realisation."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">非二元状态的证悟更为明显；</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">而无我则是一种更为微妙的洞见。有一种微妙的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">开关</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，正是这个微妙的开关使得自我既不会阻挡生起，也不会阻碍消逝。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Non-duality is more obvious when it is experienced. No-self is a more
subtle insight. There is a subtle 'switch'. It is this subtle switch that
allows for the arising and passing away as the 'self' is not blocking the
arising from passing away."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"..."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">根据我对无我的体验，当关于过去发生事件的念头出现时，那些过去的事件不会被归属于</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">换句话说，它们仅被认作是念头或记忆。这会使念头得以消逝（消退），这种消逝甚至可以被直观地</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">看到</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。同样，对于任何诸如思考和对未来的计划的心识内容，也会被认作不属于</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，从而消退。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"From my experience of no-self, when thoughts arise that are about passed
events that happened... these past events will not be identified as belonging
to 'me' ... in another word they are just recognised as thoughts/memories. This
will enable the thoughts to dissolve (passing away) which could literally be
'seen'. Same goes with any mind contents such as thinking and planning for the
future... they will be recognised as not belonging to 'me' and thus pass
away."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"..."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是的，</span>AEN <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的看法是正确的。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就我而言，无我（</span>anatta<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）的稳定证悟是在早期／初步体验空性之后才出现的。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在无我稳定之前，仍需付出大量努力去进入那种</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">知见</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">具有讽刺意味的是，一旦无我体验稳定下来，人会惊讶于为什么自己当初没有看见这一点。这是因为那体验极其直接，就好像多年来一直在绕圈子，最终才看到了最明显、最直接的真相。然而，回想起来，多年的修行其实只是为了清除足够的障碍（习气以及概念条件作用）。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Yep, AEN is correct. In my case, the stabilise realisation of No-self
(anatta) came after the early/initial insight of emptiness. Before the
stablisation of no-self, there was still substantial efforting in getting into
the 'view'. The irony is that once the no-self experience is stabilised, one
will wonder why did one not see it in the first place. This is because it is so
direct. It is as if one is beating around the bush for years just to see the
most obvious and direct. However, on hindsight, all the years of practice is
really just clearing enough obscurations (habit as well as conceptual
conditionings)."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我的感觉是，下一阶段实际上是关于空性稳定化的。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">依我体验，初步的洞见首先出现，随后会有多个循环反复检验这些洞见，直至每个洞见都稳定下来。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"My feeling is that the next stage is actually about the stabilisation of
emptiness. In my experience, the initial insights will come first. Then there
will be followed by cycles that will revisit these insights until a
stabilisation of each insight occurs."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"..."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">嗨，</span>Dharmadhatu<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">阻碍我们真正认识意识运作动态的，有许多障碍层。当你达到那个阶段，你将自然而然地明白那到底是什么。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">目前，</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那种传统理解现实的方式、概念思维和对固体感的执著，正阻碍着我们体验所描述的状态。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">实际上，一切都在</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一体化</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">地发生，与整个</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">宇宙</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">同步。当你进食时，整个宇宙都在震动（在进食的动作中）。我相信，这正是佛陀能够无所不知的原因</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">因为实际上一切都是以全息方式相互连接的。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Hi Dharmadhatu, There are layers of obscurations preventing the actual
dynamics of consciousness from being known. Once you come to this stage, you
will naturally understood what is it about. Currently, the 'I', conventional
way of understanding reality, conceptual thoughts, sense of solidity are
blocking the experience as described. In actuality, everything is happening
at-one, in-sync with the entire 'universe'. When you eat, the whole universe
vibrates (in the action of eating). This, i believe, is how a Buddha can be
omniscent... able to know things that he wants as and when. ..for in actuality
everything is interconnected in a holographic way."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"..."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">嗨，</span>Simpo<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，你当时努力进入的</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">知见</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">究竟是什么？</span>”<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我所指的是无我之</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">知见</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。实际上，</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">知见</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这个词可能会引起误解，但无法用其他词来形容。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">换句话说，在无我稳定之前，很难看清</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">自我感</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">如何混杂在各种内容和思维中。人们往往倾向于努力进入某个理想状态；而一旦无我稳定了，这种努力就会被正确地理解为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">自我感的努力</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。任何付出的努力都会促使自我感产生，就像一只狗不停地咬自己的尾巴</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不断循环。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Hi Simpo, what is the 'view' that you were efforting to get into at that
point? " I am referring to the 'view' of no-self. Actually, the word view
can be misleading but there is no way to describe it. Put it another way,
before the stabilisation of no-self... it is hard to see how the 'sense of
self' is muddled in the contents/thoughts. One will have a tendency to apply
effort to get into a particular preferred state. With the stabilisation of
no-self, this effort is correctly understood as 'sense of self' efforting.
Every effort that is being applied causes the arising of the sense of self. It
is like a dog trying to bite its own tail... going around in loop."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">另外，是什么触发了对空性的洞见？</span>”<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">除了通过解构之外，根本没有什么能真正触发对空性的洞见。但解构也可能导致其他体验</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">而当洞见来临时，往往是在最意想不到的时候。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Also, what triggered off the insight into emptiness in the first place?
There is no way to really trigger an insight into emptiness apart from
deconstructing. But then deconstruction can also lead to other experiences...
Also when the insight comes it will be when least expected."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在洞见空性之前，可能会有强烈的光明体验</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但人们绝不能执著于它，而必须放下。这样一来，其他特性（例如空性）才能显现出来。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Prior to insight into emptiness, there may be a strong luminosity
experience... but one must not get attached to it and let it go. This may allow
the other characteristics (eg emptiness) to shine through."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">体验与证悟之间存在区别。在证悟中，存在一种</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">知见</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">；而在单纯体验中，则可能会产生误解。举例来说，这些体验与起身的昆达里尼现象可能非常相似</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">主要区别在于，体验可能会误解实际发生了什么。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"There is a distinction between experience and realisation. In the
realisation, there is a knowing. In an experience, there is a
misinterpretation. For example, these experiences can be quite similar to
Kundalini arising... The main difference is that an experience can be a
misinterpretation of what actually happened."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">对实际情况的误解，会阻碍进一步、更深层的体验。例如，如果一个人经历了</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">体验并认为存在一个永恒的见证者／观察者</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">他</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">她就无法体验到非二元。因而，由</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">体验引起的误解，会切断直接理解或证悟非二元的机会。同样的情况也适用于空性和无我证悟。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"A misinterpretation of what actually happened will prevent further and
deeper experiences. For example, if one has an I AM experience and believe that
there is an eternal witness/observer. ... he/she will not be able to have a
non-dual experience. Thus the opportunity to directly understand/realise
non-duality is severed by the misinterpretation caused by the I AM experience.
This same thing applies to the realisation of emptiness and no-self."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">实际上</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">所有体验本身已经是无我且空性的</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">正因为如此，解脱才有可能实现。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Actually...all experiences are already no-self and empty... It is because
this is so that liberation is possible."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
……<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"...."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">嗨，诸位，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我想推荐一篇不错的文章：《金刚净土修持》。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">链接：</span><a href="http://www.berzinarchives.com/web/en/archives/advanced/tantra/level1_getting_started/vajrasattva_purification_basics.html" target="_new">http://www.berzinarchives.com/web/en/archives/advanced/tantra/level1_getting_started/vajrasattva_purification_basics.html</a><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">最初由</span>
Dharmadhatu <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">发布：</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我曾读过，据说在密宗中，净化业力最深奥的两种方法是修持金刚萨埵和以心性为依托休息。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我的朋友们通过这一修持，提升了智慧，治愈了疾病，去除了那些不利于修行的破坏性模式，增强了心智的清明和力量等等。这是清除修行路上障碍的重要途径。因为金刚萨埵乃是所有神佛的精髓。仅仅修持他的咒语，就涵盖了所有其他佛／神，而金刚萨埵的修持也与中阴体验密切相关。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Hi All, Will like to recommend a nice article: Vajrasattva Purification <a href="http://www.berzinarchives.com/web/en/archives/advanced/tantra/level1_getting_started/vajrasattva_purification_basics.html" target="_new">http://www.berzinarchives.com/web/en/archives/advanced/tantra/level1_getting_started/vajrasattva_purification_basics.html</a>
Originally posted by Dharmadhatu: i have read that the 2 most profound ways to
clear karma in the Vajrayana is to practise Vajrasattva and rest in nature of
mind. My friends have increased their intelligence, cured diseases, removed
destructive patterns that were unconducive to practice, increased clarity &amp;
strength of mind etc etc etc. through this practice. It is a main way to clear
obstacles on the path. As Vajrasattva is the quintessence of all deities.
Simply to practice his mantra covers all the other Buddhas / Deities and
Vajrasattva practice is also intimately connected to the bardo
experiences."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（由于篇幅较长，以下部分将在下一条消息中继续翻译。）</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">[<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]<br />
<b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
Simpo<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是的，我发现金刚萨埵净化法非常有力。顺便提一下，我也是在今年初不久才发现这一方法的。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这一切都是通过</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">有趣</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的方式开始的</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">起初，我担心我认识的某个人可能会走向负面、从而在来生陷入凄惨的境地。因为人们并不总是相信我所说的</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我就想，也许我应该去武吉士庙向观音求一个签，然后用这个签纸作为一种物质的传递信息。所以我告诉那个人，我将前往观音庙，向观音询问</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">她的来生状况如何</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。果然</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">签上显示的是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不佳</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的结果。但更重要的是签上的信息。它写道，由于缺乏福报或其他原因，将不会有回报／好结果，而且人生的境遇由一个人的福报决定。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">有了这个签，我便把签纸交给了那个人。后来我便去查找有关</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">福报</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的资料，偶然发现了金刚萨埵净化法</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">于是接下来我就向他人推荐这一净化法，同时自己也开始修持。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我发现，无论采用哪种修行方法，深切尊师是非常重要的，不论你是否能亲眼见到老师。若缺乏深切尊师之心，就会滋生骄傲、失去信心，从而导致理解无法有效传递。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Simpo: Yes, I find Vajrasattva Purification to be very powerful.
Incidentally, i have only discovered this method not too long ago..in the
beginning of the year. It is through 'interesting' means... It started, when i
was concerned that someone i know might be going towards negativity and thus
falling into woeful state in future life. As people dun always believe what i
say... i thought maybe i should get a 'qian' from Guan Yin at the Bugis
temple... and use the 'qian' paper as a physical message. So i told the person
that i will be going to Guan Yin temple to ask Guan Yin about 'what her future
life condition will be'. As expected... the qian is a 'bad' one. But more
importantly is the message of the qian. It says that there will be no
reward/good result due to lack of merits or something like that. and that the
conditions in life is determined by ones' merits. With that, i gave the 'qian'
paper to the person. I went to search on the topic of 'merit' and chance upon
Vajrasattva Purification... Next i recommend the Vajrasattva Purification to
others and practice it myself. :) What I have found is that with whatever
practice, deep respect for the Teacher is very important whether you can see
the Teacher or not. Without deep respect, there will be pride and no faith and
thus understandings cannot be effectively transmitted."<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">脚注</span>/</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">附注：</span></b><br />
“qian”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">即</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">签</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，为求签的意思。</span><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原</span>“newbie”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">发帖内容：</span><br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你修持哪种净化法？那篇文章其实并未真正教导净化法，而且某些方法需要灌顶。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Originally posted by 'newbie': What purification practice you do? The
article didn't actually teach the purification practice and certain method
needs initiation"<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
Simpo<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span><br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在文章中就有说明。文章还详细描述了业力的运作动态。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">另外，还有一篇更简单的文章：</span><br />
<a href="http://www.fpmt-osel.org/meditate/vjrstva.htm" target="_new">http://www.fpmt-osel.org/meditate/vjrstva.htm</a><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">此外，请先读懂这些文本的含义</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">看看这是否正是你所追求的。正如我一再强调的</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">要取得成效，必须怀有深切的尊师心。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">再者</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你不能用其他那些包含内观证悟、专注和持戒的基本修行来替代这一方法。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Simpo: It is in the article. The article also gave a very detailed
description of karmic dynamics. Anyway a simpler article: <a href="http://www.fpmt-osel.org/meditate/vjrstva.htm" target="_new">http://www.fpmt-osel.org/meditate/vjrstva.htm</a>
Also... read the meaning of the texts first .. and see if this is what you
aspire towards. Again as i have stressed... to be effective.. there must be
deep respect. Plus... you cannot replace this with the other essential
practices entailing insight practices, concentration and morality."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原</span>“StriveOn”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">发帖内容：</span><br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">抱歉，诸位，但我想提出一些尖锐的问题。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">佛陀是否曾说过我们可以通过反复诵念咒语</span>10<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">万次来净化我们的业力？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">佛陀到底是如何论述业力的生成以及我们应当如何应对的？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我只是想保持话题的正轨</span>……”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Originally posted by StriveOn: Sorry guys, but I want to put up some
tough questions here. Did Buddha says we can purify our karma by reciting a
mantra 100,000 times? What did Buddha says about Karmic formations and what we
should do? Just want to keep on track..."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
Simpo<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span><br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">其实</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我不该提起这一修行方法，因为这会给某些人带来太多混乱。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">总而言之，仅靠咒语和可视化显然没有力量</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">人必须理解其含义。这就像是一种意图与承诺的表述。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">另外，世界并不像你所见的那样。对于那些证悟了空性的人来说，他们也会理解，空间、时间、距离和位置仅仅是印象而已。它们并不存在于一个坚固、永恒的意义上。这意味着，圣者的开悟与智慧仍然是可以获得的，因为它们不受空间、时间、距离和位置的限制。世界／意识实际上是全息的。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不，这些圣者不会减少你的业力。依我看来，更像是：通过与开悟圣者的调谐</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在这个过程中，你会获得支持。就像一块未充电的金属，接触到真正的磁铁后，可以逐渐被磁化一样。</span>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Simpo: Actually.. i should not have bring up this practice as it raises
too much confusion with certain people. In a nutshell, the mantra and
visualisation alone of course will have no power... one must understand the
meaning. It is like a statement of intention and commitment. Additionally, the
world is not what you see as it is. For those who realises emptiness, one will
also understand that space, time, distance and locations are just impressions.
They don't exist in a solid and permanent sense. That means, the Enlightenment
and Wisdom of Great Beings are still accessible as they are not restricted by
space, time, distance and locations. The world/consciousness is really
holographic. No, these Being will not reduce your karma. IMO, it is more like by
being attuned with Enlightened Being... and in the process one gets supported
along the way. It is like as if an uncharged metal can be progressively
magnetised when come in contact with a real magnet."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（以下部分内容将在下一条消息中继续。）</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
Sim Pern Chong<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，</span>2006<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">永恒见证者存在吗？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在深度禅定状态中，可以觉察到一种无所不在的临在。这种临在往往在念头暂时停止时体验到。在这种状态下，我们会感受到永恒见证者的存在。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但是，永恒见证者真的存在吗？不。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">过去，我曾认为它存在</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">作为我们的真我。但现在不再如此。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那么，是什么造成了见证者印象呢？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">通过深度禅定观察，我们发现，见证者仅仅是一种印象，它由微妙的知觉和连续的观察所引起。念头以闪电般的速度不断涌现，每一瞬间都会在紧接着前一瞬间留下微妙的印记。这种连续的变化产生了被称为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">永恒见证者</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的微妙见证感。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">没有永久不变的见证者，而是每时每刻不断变化的见证。换句话说，并不存在永久的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">永恒见证者</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Sim Pern Chong, 2006:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Is there an Eternal Witness?<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">During deep meditative states, an all-pervading Presence is
detectable. This Presence, is most often experienced when thoughts are
momentarily suspended. In this state, we sense the Eternal Witness.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">But does the Eternal Witness truly exist? No.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">In the past, I would have thought that it existed... as our
true self. Not anymore.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">So what causes the impression of the Witness?<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">From deep meditative observation, the witness is realised to
be just an impression that is caused by subtle knowingness and sequential
observation. Moment to moment arises in lightning fast speed. The second moment
got a subtle imprint of the recently preceded one. This sequential change
causes the sense of Subtle Witnessing known as the Eternal Witness.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">There is no permanent unchanging Witness, but ever changing
moment to moment witnessing. In another word, no permanent 'Eternal Witness'
exist."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">脚注</span>/</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">附注：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><ol start="1" style="margin-top: 0cm;" type="1">
 <li class="MsoNormal">“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在此处指的是一种全然觉知的存在状态。</span><o:p></o:p></li>
 <li class="MsoNormal">“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">永恒见证者</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是指在深度禅定中所体验到的持续观察现象，而非固定不变的实体。</span><o:p></o:p></li>
</ol><p class="MsoNormal">[<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">标签：无我、空性、</span>Simpo/Longchen<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">、开悟阶段</span> 7 <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">条评论</span> | |<br />
9<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">月</span><br />
17<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">早期论坛帖子</span> by
Thusness<br />
Soh<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（注：</span>Simpo =
Longchen = Sim Pern Chong<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">注：如果你想阅读更多</span>
Thusness/PasserBy <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的著作，请查看：</span><o:p></o:p></p><ul style="margin-top: 0cm;" type="disc">
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     <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的《开悟的七阶段》</span><o:p></o:p></li>
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     <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的早期论坛帖子</span><o:p></o:p></li>
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     <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">早期论坛帖子</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">第二部分》</span><o:p></o:p></li>
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     <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">早期论坛帖子</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">第三部分》</span><o:p></o:p></li>
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 <li class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">《早期对话</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">第六部分》</span><o:p></o:p></li>
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     <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的早期对话（</span>2004-2007<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）合并成一份</span>
     PDF <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">文档》</span><o:p></o:p></li>
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     2004 <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">至</span>
     2012 <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年的对话》</span><o:p></o:p></li>
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 <li class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">留下痕迹或证悟？</span><o:p></o:p></li>
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 <li class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">将无二置于前台（</span>Thusness
     <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在我经历非二体验</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">之后但在无我证悟之前</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">后写给我的）</span><o:p></o:p></li>
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     <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在我经历初步无我证悟之后写给我的）</span><o:p></o:p></li>
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     Yacine<o:p></o:p></li>
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 <li class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">通往纯知的关键</span><o:p></o:p></li>
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</ul><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><br />
"Labels: Anatta, Emptiness, Simpo/Longchen, Stages of Enlightenment 7
comments | | Sep 17 Early Forum Posts by Thusness Soh (Note: Simpo = Longchen =
Sim Pern Chong)<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Note: If you like to read more of Thusness/PasserBy's
writings, check out:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thusness/PasserBy's Seven Stages of Enlightenment On Anatta
(No-Self), Emptiness, Maha and Ordinariness, and Spontaneous Perfection
Realization and Experience and Non-Dual Experience from Different Perspectives
Early Forum Posts by Thusness Part 2 of Early Forum Posts by Thusness Part 3 of
Early Forum Posts by Thusness Early Conversations Part 4 Early Conversations
Part 5 Early Conversations Part 6 Thusness's Early Conversations (2004-2007)
Part 1 to 6 in One PDF Document Thusness's Conversation Between 2004 to 2012 A
casual comment about Dependent Origination Leaving traces or Attainment?
Emptiness as Viewless View and Embracing the Transience Bringing Non-Dual to
Foreground (Thusness wrote this to me after I was having nondual experiences
after I AM but before anatta realization) Putting aside Presence, Penetrate
Deeply into Two Fold Emptiness (Thusness wrote this to me after I was having a
deeper insight into anatta after an initial realization of anatta) Reply to
Yacine Direct Seal of Great Bliss The Unbounded Field of Awareness Comments
section of The Buddha on Non-Duality Why the Special Interest in Mirror? What
is an Authentic Buddhist Teaching? The Path of Anatta The Key Towards Pure
Knowingness The place where there is no earth, fire, wind, space, water"<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal">[<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（上图：</span>2004<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年由</span> Longchen/Simpo <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">创作的艺术作品）</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这里是一些</span> 2004
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年和</span> 2005 <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年期间由</span> Thusness <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">发表在论坛上的早期帖子。（注：</span>Longchen = Simpo<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，即另一位来自新加坡的朋友）</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">[<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"(above: artwork by Longchen/Simpo in 2004)<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Here are some early forum postings by Thusness back in 2004
and 2005. (note: longchen = simpo, another friend from Singapore)"<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">注：以上为文本的第一部分，下一部分的翻译将在下一条消息中继续。</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://sgforums.com/forums/1728/topics/100855" target="_new">http://sgforums.com/forums/1728/topics/100855</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Longchen:<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">嗨，</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">除了禅那之外，你是否曾体验过处于无念状态下的纯净空灵临在？那才是一切众生的真实状态</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本体。它超越了心智，超越了概念。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这种纯净的临在是无处不在的，同时又是虚无的。在我的体验中，禅那有所不同。禅那就像在冥想中</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">向外看</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，而纯净的临在则是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">向内看</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。我无法很好地描述这一点。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当一个人正处于无欲无求的瞬间时，最能感受到纯净的临在。纯净临在就像一道射入心灵的光线，其属性构成了你的个性。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">嗨，僧伽，</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我无法确定纯净临在是否即为涅槃。我只能根据自己的经验和理解来写作。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这种纯净的临在在藏传佛教中被称为觉性（</span>Rigpa<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。我在此生并非佛教徒，但我曾在多个前世中是一位宁玛派的藏传僧侣。这也是我至今对佛教保持浓厚兴趣的原因。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">关于觉性，当我们体验它时，它是无形且空性，同时又是无限和无处不在的。它并非</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">极乐</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。极乐是一种三昧状态，但它还未达到真实本性的境界，它仍然只是一种心中的状态。我也曾有过极乐体验，事实上我现在在冥想之外也时常体验到。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">觉性是一种属于</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你自己</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的临在，与宇宙中的一切相连。这大概就是佛陀所说</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的原因。诸法在法身中彼此相连。觉性是法身的一部分。当处于这种状态时，没有</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">和</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的分隔</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我们皆是一体，这种状态无法用言语描述。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">然而，我必须指出，即使现在，在我阅读这些文字时，我们已然具备觉性。我们之所以没有意识到这一点，是因为我们认为自己仅仅是心智</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">个性。心智</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">个性只是觉性的一种映像，并非真我。如果你理解我所写的内容，你可能会突然觉醒</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">证悟。如果这种证悟足够深刻，你看待世界的方式也将随之改变。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这只是我个人的一点意见</span>……<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"<a href="http://sgforums.com/forums/1728/topics/100855" target="_new">http://sgforums.com/forums/1728/topics/100855</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Longchen: Hi,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Besides the Jhanas, have you experience pure empty Presence
in a state of no thought? That is the true state of a Being. It is beyond the
mind, beyond concepts.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">This pure Presence is all pervading, yet void at the same
time. In my experience, the Jhanas are different. Jhana's are like 'looking
outward' in a meditation, pure Presence is 'looking inwards'. I can't describe
it very well.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Pure presence can best be felt when a person is at the
moment free from desires. Pure presence is like the ray that emits its
properties into the mind. The properties of the pure presence form your
personality.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hi Sangha,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I am in no position to say whether Pure presence is nibbana.
I can only write from my own experience and understanding.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">This pure presence is called Rigpa in Tibetan Buddhism. I am
not a Buddhist in this life, but I was a Tibetan Monk of Nyingma school several
lifetimes ago. That is why I still have a lot of interest in Buddhism.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">About Rigpa, when we experience it. It is formless and empty
and at the same time infinite and all pervading. It is NOT BLISS. Bliss is a
samadhi state but it is not the true nature yet, it is still a state in the
mind. I have bliss experiences also, in fact i have then now quite often
outside of meditation also.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Rigpa is a presence of 'yourself' that is connect to
everything in the universe. That is probably why the Buddha say that there is
'no self'. All is connect to all in the Dharmakaya. Rigpa is a part of the
Dharmakaya. When in the state, there is no separation into you or me... We are
all one thing which cannot be described.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">However, I must say that even now, while reading this, we
are already the rigpa. We do not realise this is because we THINK we are just
the mind/personality. The mind/personality is a REFLECTION from rigpa. It is
not the true self. If you understand what I am write, you may get a sudden
awakening/realisation. And if the realisation is deep enough, your viewpoint or
way of seeing the world will change.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Just my 2 cents..."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">脚注</span>/</i><i><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">附注：</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><ol start="1" style="margin-top: 0cm;" type="1">
 <li class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">文中</span>“Jhanas”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">指禅那，代表冥想中专注的状态。</span><o:p></o:p></li>
 <li class="MsoNormal">“Nibbana”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">为涅槃，此处用以质疑纯净临在是否即为涅槃。</span><o:p></o:p></li>
 <li class="MsoNormal">“Dharmakaya”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">指法身，即佛的真体。</span><o:p></o:p></li>
</ol><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thusness:<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">嗨，</span>LongChen<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">内在</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">和</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">外在</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">都是分析性心智的产物。只有心智才需要这样的分割、概念和思维。临在并不容纳这一切。它以自然性和直接性运作，既没有时间，也过于简单而不容有思考。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">然而，即便当一个人体验到这种纯粹存在感时，由于潜在的业力倾向，心智仍会试图创造出一种无形、透明般的实体（</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）来体验</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">事物</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。实际上，并不存在所谓的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">蓝天的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">蔚蓝</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">并不等同于</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">保持沉默，并在临在中，万物皆其完整呈现。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无需</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这一切本身就足够了。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">祝旅途愉快。</span><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"Thusness:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hi LongChen,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Even the "inner" and "outer" are
production of the analytical mind. Only the mind requires such division,
concepts and thoughts. The Presence has no room for all these. It works through
naturalness and directness. Too short to have time and too simple to have
thought.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">However even when one experiences this pure sense of
existence, due to latent karmic tendencies, the mind will still attempt to
create a formless-transparent-like entity ('I') experiencing
"things". In reality there is no 'I'.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">The 'Blueness' of the blue sky isn't 'I'. Remain Silence and
in Presence, all things are in their entirety. No 'I' is required. This itself
is sufficient.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Happy Journey."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">脚注</span>/</i><i><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">附注：</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><ol start="1" style="margin-top: 0cm;" type="1">
 <li class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">此处</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">内在</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">和</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">外在</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">均指心智划分出的概念，并非实际存在的二元分割。</span><o:p></o:p></li>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">请在下一条消息中继续翻译下一部分。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>Longchen</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">嗨，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">感谢你那深刻的讲解。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">请问</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">如何才能时时常常维持临在？这是否需要清除所有业力倾向（</span>samcaras/samskara<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我明白临在始终存在。是否有可能在与他人交谈时仍然保持临在？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">目前，我只有在不与任何人交谈时，才能切换到见证状态。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">谢谢。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"Longchen:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hi Thusness,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thank you for your profound explanation.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">May I ask ... how do one remain in Presence all the time.
Does it require the clearing of all karmic tendencies (samcaras/samskara).<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I understand that the Presence is there all the time. Is it
possible to be in presence even when engaged in say a conversation with another
person?<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Currently, switching to witness state is only possible when
I am not engaged in any conversation.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks"<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>Thusness</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">嗨，</span>Long
Chen<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是的，这是可能的。但尽管我不愿多言，这里没有</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">什么、哪里、何时、为什么以及如何</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的答案。听起来荒谬，但事实如此。这正是不具备自然性（</span>Naturalness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）的特征。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">然而，心智会顽固地执着于这种现有的认知模式，因为对心来说，那就是一切。似乎一个真诚的修行者必须不断深入探究自身，直到完全耗尽自己并迎来自身的死亡</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">即</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的死亡。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">放下并彻底理解整个思维及分析机制的贫乏，将使心智得以安息于虚无之上。在此，业力倾向自然而然地产生又消退，无需刻意挣扎。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">正是在这种时刻，无为而知（</span>effortless
knowing<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）开始显现。一种完全清晰的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本性</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">化作纯净临在展现出来。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">深入探索我们内在深处，总会发现那股意志、努力等</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这种不愿放下、不愿存在的状态。简单地说，就是这种执着分隔了我们。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">最后，尽量不要在身体中寻找固定的位置。真实的本性遍满虚空。为那既非内也非外的那（真如本性）划定界限终将证明是徒劳的。临在自会在他性中呈现。身体制造了</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">内向</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的幻觉与分裂。我们过于沉溺于分析，以致失去了直觉与直接性。既然你已经体验过纯净临在，就请感知那持有的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，并立刻放下。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在始终“如是”。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">聊得愉快，微笑。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"Thusness:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hi Long Chen,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Yes it is possible. But as much as I would not like to say,
there is no what, where, when, why and how. Sounds senseless but it is true.
These are what Naturalness is not.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Nevertheless, the mind will be stubbornly attached to this
current mode of knowing because to the mind, it is all there is. It seems to be
a destined journey that a sincere seeker has to continue penetrating its own
depth, till it completely exhausts itself and meet its own DEATH. The death of
the 'I'.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">The giving up and full understanding of the poverty of the
entire thinking and analytical mechanism will allow the mind to rest itself
upon nothing. Here karmic tendency arises and ceases as it is, no effort to
struggle is made. This is the time effortless knowing arises. A complete
clarity of ISness manifesting as pure Presence.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Seek deep into the depths of our own self, there is always
this Will, Effort..etc. This Unwillingness to let go, to be. Simply put, it is
this that separates.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Lastly try not to find a sit in the body. The true nature
fills all space. Creating a boundary for What that is neither within nor
without will eventually prove futile. Presence finds itself in Otherness. The
body has created the illusion of 'inward' and divides. We have engaged
ourselves in too much analysis and lost our intuitiveness and directness. Since
you have experienced the pure Presence, sense the 'I' that holds and let go
immediately. Presence always IS.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Nice Chat Smile"<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>Longchen</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">嗨，</span>Thusness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白了。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你确实开悟了。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">谢谢。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">临在</span>……<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">寻找它，失去它，然后在心中循环；</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">随遇而安</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">安住在临在中。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"Longchen:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hi Thusness,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Got it.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">You are indeed enlightened.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Presence...<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Search for it, loses it and cycle within the mind Let things
be.... rest in presence."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>Thusness</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当事物</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">存在</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">时？那是什么？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"Thusness:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">When things are "be"? What is it? "<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">【在下一条消息中继续】</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>Longchen</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">嗨，</span>Sangha<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当临在消失时会怎样？没有思维、没有临在</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那会不会是一种空白？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我曾有一次冥想进入了一种空白状态，没有任何感知。当心智再次</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">活动</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">时，我才意识到我曾处于那种空白之中。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">谢谢你。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"Longchen:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hi Sangha,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">What happens when presence is eliminated. No thought, no
presence... then could this be a blank?<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I do have a time when i meditated into a blank. No
perception. it was when the mind 'moves' again that i realise that i was in the
blank.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks you."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>Thusness</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">嗨，</span>LongChen<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">空白状态是一种定境，其中知觉功能的意识暂时被暂停。完全的清晰和无</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">状态下的临在更加关键。微笑</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那种由无数生命中因执着而产生的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不能被低估。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我们几乎处于一种无助的束缚之中，我们的感知被塑造并固定在一种类似催眠的状态中，我们感受、思考、体验，并从</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的角度推导出我们的理解。因此，从对纯净临在现实的一瞥中所获得的分析性理解很快就会变得扭曲。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当我们以闭合所有感官通道的状态体验临在时，临在表现为一种</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>I AM<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">而当我们以全开所有感官通道的状态体验临在时，临在表现为一种</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我全是</span>” (I AM All)<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">然而，这两种体验都未能揭示纯净临在的真实本质。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">即便那种真实感、存在感、生命感以及生动感极为强烈，由于</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的存在，会在某处产生一种定位感，纯净临在的真实面貌依然隐藏不露。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">心智尚未习惯认识那绝对的虚无、非局部、无处可寻而又纯净、光明</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">光辉灿烂、永远明亮的实相。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">它会去寻找，会发现，会抓取。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">总有一天，心智必须彻底放下自身。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">如果我们足够勇敢放下，进入那个无言、无标记、无思维的世界，并且如果这种状态得以持续，智慧与洞见就会出现。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这种智慧便是那非凡的清晰、生动、真实与整体性。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">它晶莹剔透，充满了所有空间和处所。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无论在寂静中还是喧嚣中，无论在空白中还是在充盈中，那些体验到纯净临在的人将会欣赏这晶莹剔透的现实。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这种对纯净临在的再度体验将是彻底而完整的。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">毫无疑问。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">佛教中</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">空性</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的智慧是深邃而博大。请深入探究。微笑</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">祝你旅途愉快。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"Thusness:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hi LongChen,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">The blankness is a form of absorption where the knowing
faculty of consciousness is temporarily suspended. Complete clarity and
Presence without a 'Self' is more crucial. Smile<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">The 'Self' that is created over countless lives of
attachment cannot be underestimated. We are in almost helpless bondage that our
perceptions are shaped and held in a sort of hypnosis that we feel, think,
experience and deduced our understandings from the perspective of an 'I'. Thus
analytical understanding derived from the glimpse of the Pure Presence Reality
will very quickly get distorted.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">When Presence is experienced with the six sense doors shut,
Presence is experienced as a form of "I AMness". When Presence is
experience with six sense doors widely open, Presence is experienced as a form
of "I AM All".<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">However neither experience tells us the TRUE NATURE of Pure
Presence. Even the very sense of Realness, of Existence, of Life and Vividness
is so strong, due to the sense of 'I' there will be a sense of location
somewhere, and the true face of Pure Presence remains hidden.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">The mind is just not used to knowing the absolutely nothing,
non-local, nowhere to be found yet pure, brilliance bright and ever luminous.
It will locate, it will find, it will grasp. There must come a time for the
mind to let go of itself completely. If we are bold enough to let go and enter
into the world that is wordless, labelless and thoughtless, and if this is
sustained, wisdom and insight will arise. This wisdom is the extraordinary
Clarity, Vividness and Realness, wholeness whole. It is crystal clear filling
all spaces and places. Both in silence and in noise, in blankness and
somethingness. Those that experience the Pure Presence will appreciate this
crystal clear reality. This re-visiting of Pure Presence will be thorough and
entire. There will be no doubt.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Buddhism Emptiness is deep and profound. Do go into it.
Smile Happy Journey"<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>Longchen</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">嗨，</span>Thusness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你的信息充满了真理，谢谢你。我会按照你的建议去做。非常高兴。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"Longchen:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hi Thusness,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Your message feels of truth. Thanks for it. I will do as you
advice. Very Happy"<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">[<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">此处紧接原文中的链接部分直接复现，不需要翻译链接文本</span>]<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"<a href="http://sgforums.com/forums/1728/topics/157333?page=2" target="_new">http://sgforums.com/forums/1728/topics/157333?page=2</a>"<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>Thusness</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">嗨，</span>Longchen<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这终究无法把握，并非因为终极对象无法成为观察的对象；而是因为从一开始，任何</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">内在某处的某人</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的设想都是错误的。真正的真实在于我们意识到任何形式的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">中心性</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">都是虚幻的。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">要体验存在本质的纯净临在，</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的状态必须彻底溶解。你所体验到的纯净临在是非方所</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">局部的，没有中心。它因线性分析方式而呈现为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">如果有时间，请探索内观冥想以及</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">空性</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的本质。眨眼示意微笑。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">此致，</span><br />
Thusness<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"Thusness:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hi longchen,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">It is ungraspable not because the Ultimate Object cannot be
the subject of observation; but rather there is really no such ‘ultimate
object’ hiding behind anywhere. A ‘someone’ inside somewhere is from the very
beginning a mistake. True authenticity comes when we realized that any form of
‘centricity’ is illusionary. To experience the Pure Presence of Isness, “I
AMness” must completely dissolve. The Pure Presence you experienced is
non-local and has no-center. It becomes an ‘I AM’ due to linear mode of analysis.
If you have time do explore into insight meditation and the essence of
‘Emptiness’ Wink<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Regards, Thusness"<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>Longchen</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">嗨，</span>Thusness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明白了。我会照你的建议去做。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我有一个希望你能回答的问题</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">如果</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">状态完全溶解，我们是否就难以与普通社会建立联系？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">顺便说一句，很高兴再次听到你的消息。微笑</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">此致。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"Longchen:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hi Thusness,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">OK. Will do so.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I have a question that hopefully you can answer... if I
Amness completely dissolves won't we have difficulty relating to normal
society?<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">BTW, nice to hear from you again.Smile<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Regards."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>Thusness</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">嗨，</span>Long
Chen<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">很高兴见到你和</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">永恒现在</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也同在。微笑</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">至于你问的一个人的开悟是否会妨碍其与普通社会交往，我认为不会。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">对于一位达到根本境界的人来说，无论他扮演僧侣、教师、商人还是乞丐的角色，他都能保持自由。在实际应用中，他自会知道如何与一切和谐共融，完全融入其中。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在佛法中，</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">并非道德问题，而是什么是现象的真实本性的问题。从宏观宇宙到夸克的微观世界，从时间到空间，从身体到意识，所有这一切都展示了这一特性。空性无处不在。即便在此刻，我们也目睹着空性真理的运作</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当下一经产生便消逝。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">事物不存在任何恒常不变的（自我），只有变化。将事物视为固体实体并将其划分为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这个</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">或</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">那个</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，正是由于我们思维机制的贫乏，这并非真实。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">贴标签的行为会使事物显得坚固且彼此分离，甚至当我们处理我们自身最本质</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">纯粹觉知时，也会把它定义为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也许是思维心所能达到的最远界限，并且它绝非仅仅用于交流的表达。我们总是寻求、发现并试图定位它，就好像它是某个隐藏着的坚固实体。只要这种错误的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">看法</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">持续存在，就必然会产生执着和苦难。这就是事实；你无法用一个</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">来消除执着。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">因此，通过觉醒空性智慧来看到事物的能力在佛法中尤为重要。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在毗婆舍那（观察如其本然的实相）的修行中，赤裸注意力训练我们不带标签、不带文字层次地观察，它为我们呈现了一种体验现实的新模式</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一种不断变化、不可分割的流动。没有这种思维层次，</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">便无处寄居，而</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的束缚也会逐渐松解和消退。如果业力条件成熟，纯觉知与现象世界之间的神秘关系便会显现。</span><br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">体验是我们裸露意识的直观体验。它是面对面地见到意识、直接触摸意识，而中间没有任何思维。但必须理解其空寂本性，方可进一步进展。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我现在得走了</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">请保重，微笑。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"Thusness:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hi Long Chen,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Nice to see you and Eternal Now too. Smile As to your
question whether one's enlightenment will hinder oneself from relating in a
normal society, I supposed not. For one that has arrived at the fundamental
ground, whatever role he assumes, whether as a monk, teacher, businessman or a
beggar, he remains free. When it comes to practical application, he will
naturally know how to harmonize and fuses completely with everything.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">In Buddhism, No-Self is not a question of morality; it is a
question of the true nature of the phenomenon reality. From the macro universe
to the quantum world of quarks, from time to space, from body to consciousness,
all exhibit this characteristic. Emptiness prevails everywhere. Even right now
at this moment, we witness the Emptiness truth in action -- the moment ceases
as it arises. There is no changing thing (Self), only change. Viewing things as
solid entities and categorizing them as 'this' or 'that' is due to the poverty
of our thinking mechanism, it is not reality.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">The act of labeling will make 'things' appear solid and
separated, to the extent that even when we are dealing with the very essence of
ourselves -- the pure awareness, we make it an 'I AM'. 'I AMness' is perhaps
the furthest the Thinking-Mind can give way and it is never meant merely as an
expression for communication. We seek, find and attempt to locate it as if it
is a solid entity hiding somewhere. As long as this wrong way of 'seeing'
persists, there will be attachments and sufferings. This is the way it is; you
cannot eliminate attachment with an 'I'. Therefore the capacity to see by
awakening the emptiness wisdom is especially important in Buddhism.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Bare attention that is taught in insight meditation trains
one to see without labeling, without a layer of words. It presents us a new
mode of experiencing reality as an ever changing inseparable flux. Without this
layer of thought, 'I' has no place to reside and slowly the bond of 'I' will
loosen and subside. If the karmic condition ripens, the mysterious relationship
between the pure awareness and the phenomenon world will be revealed.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">The experience of I AM is an intuitive experience of our
naked consciousness. It is seeing Consciousness face to face and touching
Consciousness directly without in between thoughts. But its Emptiness nature
must be understood to progress further. I got to go now....do take care. Smile<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thusness"<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>Longchen</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">嗨，</span>Thusness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">非常感谢你的解释。这对我来说至关重要，我十分感激。非常开心。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在阅读了你所写内容后</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我去冥想了。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">观察那些涌现的思绪，似乎每个思绪之间都有某种联系。偶尔会产生一种回忆的欲望，一个新思绪便会出现，唤起那回忆。但每一刻似乎都是崭新的时刻</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">既无过去也无未来。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">思绪与记忆的连续与回忆一一涌现</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但似乎没有任何人观察这些思绪。那观察者只是一种印象</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">并不存在真实的观察者。</span><br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的印象似乎正是由这种连续性和回忆能力所引起的。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这是准确的吗？</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">致以诚挚的问候与敬意。</span><br />
Longchen/Simpo<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"Longchen:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hi Thusness,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thank you very much for your explanation. It is most
important. I am most grateful.Very Happy<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">After reading, what you wrote... I went to meditate.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Observing the thoughts that arises, there appears to be a
relationship between each thoughts. Occasionally, a desire to recall arises, a
new thought will arise that does a recall. But each moment seems to be a fresh
moment. .. with no second and no past.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">The continuity and the recall of thoughts and memories
arises one after another... but there appears to be NO ONE observing the
thoughts. The observer is an impression... there is no observer. The impression
of a self appears to be due to the continuity and the recalling of memories.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">If this is correct... then the 'I' is but the impression
caused by the continuity and recalling ability.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">This is accurate?<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Kind regards and respect.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Longchen/simpo"<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>Thusness</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是的，</span>LongChen<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">虽然有思维活动，但没有思维者。从一个时刻到另一个时刻的连续，并不需要一个</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">会阻碍直接的觉知。这种情况必须扩展到其他五种感官（眼、耳、鼻、舌、身）。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无我体验必须彻底。微笑</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"Thusness:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Yes LongChen,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">There is thinking but there is no thinker. Succession from
one moment to another does not require an ‘I’. The ‘I’ prevents direct
perception. This must be extended to the rest of the 5 senses (eye, ear, nose,
tongue, body). The experience of no-self must be thorough. Smile"<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>Longchen</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">嗨，</span>Thusness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">非常感谢</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我会那样做。非常开心。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">要让佛陀察觉差别，他的觉知一定是锐利如刀、迅捷无比的。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"Longchen:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hi Thusness,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thank you so much.. Will do so.Very Happy<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">For Buddha to spot the difference, his perception must have
been razor-sharp and fast."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>Thusness</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">嗨，</span>LongChen<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">没错。佛陀确实是如此清晰、精准且准确。如此深刻的洞见与明澈必定源于完全解脱的心境。微笑</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在体验了以所有六种感官且不带标签、无文字干扰下的空性觉知（正如你在</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我是</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">体验中直接感受并直观体验到的那样）之后，请你进一步探索</span>18<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">界，并以四法印验证你那直观的体验。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"Thusness:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hi LongChen,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Yes indeed. Buddha is so clear, precise and accurate. Such
penetrating insight and clarity must come from a mind that is completely free.
Smile<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">After experiencing the Emptiness nature of consciousness in
all the six senses without labeling and words (directly felt and intuitively
experienced as in the case of "I AM" that you experienced), do
explore into the 18 dhatus and authenticate your intuitive experience with the
4 dharma Seals."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">[<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">此处紧接原文中的链接部分直接复现，不需要翻译链接文本</span>]<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"<a href="http://sgforums.com/forums/1728/topics/159700?page=2" target="_new">http://sgforums.com/forums/1728/topics/159700?page=2</a>"<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>Thusness</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">嗨，</span>LongChen<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">理解生命的奥秘真是难以领会。正如不存在半个无限一样，运动才是真正的源泉。意识的本质是无我，它正是我们所体验到的那种</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">他性</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，而非与自身相分离。那隐藏的未显现者永远在显现，在运动中，一切皆为“如是”。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我们所想象中的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">工作者</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">和</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">战士</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">比我们想象的还要多。有的播下光明（</span>luminosity<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）的种子，有的则播下空性。有些人虽然未必意识到自己所承担的角色，但无论是有意或无意，他们都在执行自己的任务。这些任务的执行可能看起来彼此矛盾，好似开悟者之间在互相斗争。因此，斗争并不仅仅是黑暗对抗光明。微笑</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">从源头的角度来看，连那微不足道的产生时刻也不存在冲突</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">所谓失衡只存在于形式之中。</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">生</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是生命的开始，而它同时也是死亡的开始。智者因此超越形式的表象，着眼于因、缘、果，并洞察现实的空性。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"Thusness: Hi LongChen,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">It is difficult to comprehend the mystery of life. Just like
there is no half-infinity, the Movement is really the Source. The nature of
Consciousness is without self, it is the very otherness that we experience, not
to distant itself from itself. The hidden unmanifest is ever manifesting, in
the movement everything IS.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">There are more workers and warriors then we imagine. Some
plant the seed of luminosity, some plant Emptiness. Not all are aware of their
designated roles but knowingly or unknowingly they carry out their tasks. The
tasks carried out might appear conflicting as if enlightened beings battling
among themselves. Thus battling is not only dark against light. Smile<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">From the perspective of the source, there is no conflict,
not even in the minuteness moment of arising – a lost balance does not exist in
reality but only in forms. ‘Birth’ is the beginning of life and yet it is also
the beginning of Death. The wise therefore look beyond the appearance of forms
and works on cause, condition and effect and understands the emptiness nature
of reality."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">[<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">此处紧接原文中的链接部分直接复现，不需要翻译链接文本</span>]<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"<a href="http://sgforums.com/forums/1728/topics/159058" target="_new">http://sgforums.com/forums/1728/topics/159058</a> Originally
posted by An Eternal Now:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Quite a good article I found from a quite well known Western
Dzogchen teacher, Lama Surya Das. ... Why chase after thoughts, which are
superficial ripples of present awareness? Rather look directly into the naked,
empty nature of thoughts; then there is no duality, no observer, and nothing
observed. Simply rest in this transparent, nondual present awareness. Make
yourself at home in the natural state of pure presence, just being, not doing
anything in particular. Present awareness is empty, open, and luminous; not a
concrete substance, yet not nothing. Empty, yet it is perfectly cognizant,
lucid, aware. As if magically, not by causing it to be aware, but innately
aware, awareness continuously functions. These two sides of present awareness
or Rigpa-its emptiness and its cognizance (lucidity)-are inseparable. Emptiness
and luminosity (knowing) are inseparable. They are formless, as if nothing
whatsoever, ungraspable, unborn, undying; yet spacious, vivid, buoyant. Nothing
whatsoever, yet Emaho!, everything is magically experienced. Simply recognize
this. Look into the magical mirror of mind and appreciate this infinite magical
display. With constant, vigilant mindfulness, sustain this recognition of
empty, open, brilliant awareness. ...."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>Thusness</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一篇非常启发性的文章，非常高兴。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">仅补充一点：那种纯净觉知</span>“……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是无形的，仿佛什么都没有，无法捉摸，未生未灭；</span>……”<br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这些特性并非仅属于纯觉知的独有属性，所有现象存在都具有这种似乎难以知晓且无法捉摸的本质。现实正是如此，纯觉知并不独占一切。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"Thusness:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">A very enlightening article. Very Happy<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Just a point to add, the pristine awareness "...is
formless, as if nothing whatsoever, ungraspable, unborn, undying;..."<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">These characteristics aren’'t attributes peculiar only to
pure awareness, all phenomenon existence possess this seemingly unknowable and
ungraspable nature. It simply is how reality is where pure awareness has no
monopoly at all."<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>Thusness</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是的，</span><i>Wanderer</i><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">正如</span>Ridzin
Jigme Lingpa<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">所说：</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">体验就像雾气，瞬间即逝。</span>” <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但在闪电般的一刻，它会以完美的清晰和生动重现。仍然无损，也无所得。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是的，非常正确。一种</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">真实的体验</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">胜过千言万语，但它同时也是那使历代神秘者目眩神迷的真正</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">真实体验</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。那炽亮辉煌的光明</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">光辉比我们能想象的更加生动。在一切之中，它无处不见，在一切之中，它都能被体验到。那种生动的光明</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">光辉也充当了遮蔽其自身空性本质的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">条件</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">最后，有一个问题，但却无人回答。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">佛陀摘花，摩诃迦叶微笑。</span><br />
Thusness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">敲击键盘，键盘发出声音。</span><br />
“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">达</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">达</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">达</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，多么清晰。灵光微笑。微笑</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"Thusness: Yes <i>Wanderer</i>,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">As Ridzin Jigme Lingpa said “Experience is like a mist, it
vanishes instantaneously.” But in lightning flash moment, it reappears with
perfect lucidity and vividness. Still nothing lost and nothing attained.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Yes very true. A “True experience” is better than a thousand
words but it is also the very “true experience” of the Brilliance Bright that
has blinded Mystics of all ages. The Brilliance Bright is more vivid then we
can imagine. In All IT is seen and In All IT is experienced. Being vividly
bright it also serves as the “condition” that obscures its very own Emptiness
nature.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Lastly, there is a question, but No-One is there to answer.
Buddha picks a flower, Mahakashyapa smiles. Thusness hits the keyboard,
keyboard-sounds. “Da Da Da”, how CLEAR. Luminosity smiles. Smile"<o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>Thusness</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">说得好，也引用得妙，</span>sinweiy<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。微笑</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">现在，灵光可以在无条件下产生吗？是否存在一种明亮、真实、根本、宏伟的心，而无需任何条件？</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"Thusness:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Well said and well quoted sinweiy. Smile<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Now, can luminosity arise without conditions? Is there a
time where there is a bright, true, essential, magnificent mind without
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>Thusness</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span></b><br />
[<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文下接引用</span>]<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>Originally posted by sinweiy</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">真正的</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">明亮的</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">灵光心就像一个能够发光的太阳源，所有的条件就像从太阳散发出来的阳光。太阳和阳光会自发地同时出现。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">正如我们所说，空寂即是形式</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">存在；形式</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">存在即是空寂（用中文说起来更合适）；没有形式就没有空寂，没有空寂就没有形式。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">空寂可以与真正的心联系在一起，而形式</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">存在则可以与条件联系在一起。它们虽然是两个，但实际上并非两个。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">换句话说，我也在《楞严经》中回忆起一个比喻：那光已经亮起，我们以为它没有亮，当我们寻求开悟时，我们去扳动开关，结果不知不觉间我们实际上把它关掉了。中性。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">依我看，</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">/\<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>Thusness</b><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：</span></b><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是的，</span>sinweiy<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">佛陀出于无限的慈悲讲述了那明晰的灵光、无条件的显明、纯净。然而，那自始至终自发光明的觉知从未与其条件分离，也无法分离。它们不是两个</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当这是，那就是。伴随着条件，灵光无中心地生起（呈现）且无处不在。</span><br />
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无处可寻。这就是</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">如来性</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>Tatagatha Nature<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。微笑</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">"Originally posted by sinweiy:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">True/bright/luminous mind is like a source sun with an
ability of shining, and all conditions are like sunlight which are emitted from
the sun. Sun and sunlight come spontaneously together. Just like we say Sunyata
is form/existence; form/existence is sunyata (sound better in chinese), w/o
form there's no sunyata, w/o sunyata there's no form. sunyata can be associated
with True mind while form/existence can be associated with conditions. they are
although two yet they are not two per se.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">that say in an similie, i recalled also in Shurangama Sutra,
that the Light is already switched on, we thought it's not On, when we seek
enlightenment, and we go and turn the switch, unnoticely we are actually
turning it Off instead. Neutral<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">imho,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">/<br />
Yes Sinweiy,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">The Buddha out of infinite compassion spoke the lucid
luminosity, the unconditioned Obviousness, the pure. But the self-luminous
awareness from beginningless time has never been separated and cannot be
separated from its conditions. They are not two -- This is, That is. Along with
the conditions, Luminosity shines without a center and arises without a place.
No where to be found. This is the Tatagatha Nature. Smile"<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1">Below is the complete translation from English to
Chinese, following the prescribed format. Each paragraph is translated fully
into Chinese, immediately followed by the complete original English text.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1">Paragraph 1</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1">Chinese Translation:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="EN-US">Longchen</span></span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">请允许</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">说几句话，如有错误请纠正</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我</span>”……</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1">Original Text:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Longchen:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Please allow ‘me’ to say something and correct ‘me’
if I am wrong…</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1">Paragraph 2</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1">Chinese Translation:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我们认为</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">或</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">自我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">是我们所有行为和决策的执行者。其实这是一种虚假的信念。认为那个掌控和做出决策的</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">自我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">仅仅是个幻觉。无论是否存在</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">自我意识</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">，事情终究都会完成。</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我</span>/</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">自我意识</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">根本无力意志或控制任何事物，</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">只是嵌入于思维之中，仅仅是一连串的思想而已。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1">Original Text:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">We believe the ‘I’ or ‘me’ is the doer of all our
actions and decision-making. This is really</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">a false belief. The idea that a ‘self’ that is
controlling and making decision is an illusion.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Things gets accomplished nevertheless, with or
without the ‘sense of self’.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">The ‘I/sense of self’ cannot will or control
anything at all. The ‘I’ is inserted into the</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">sequence of thoughts and is just a sequence of
thoughts.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1">Footnotes/Annotations (if any):</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">– The phrase “sense of self” is rendered as “</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">自我意识</span>” for clarity.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1">Paragraph 3</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1">Chinese Translation:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">并非行事者，对大多数人来说，它只是</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">被做</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">的存在。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1">Original Text:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">‘I’ is not the doer, for most, it is the ‘being
done.’</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1">Footnotes/Annotations (if any):</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">– The expression “being done” is rendered as “</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">被做</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">的存在</span> to indicate a
passive state.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1">Paragraph 4</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1">Chinese Translation:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="EN-US">Thusness</span></span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">是的，隆琛，</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">但要产生深刻的洞见，必须有放下虚假信念的意愿。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">不要先创造任何形式的信念，放下一切，从这种原始状态中去观察和体会。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">不要说存在一个</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">行者</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">或</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">掌控者</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">，也不要对你的思想和记忆做出反应，只需单纯地感受和观察这一过程。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">也不要急于下结论，创造一个</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">源头</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">来填补中间的空隙以满足思维之心。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">只需以最真诚的态度去征服这一切。允许</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">被做</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">的状态，并理解</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">无行者而行</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">（即无为）的含义。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">不要将</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">纯粹觉知</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">与</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">被做</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">割裂开来。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">不要创造一个源头并将其与</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">运动</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">分开。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">相反，保持静止，全面地去感受</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">被做</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">的状态。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">这种体验就如同在无思考中去知晓，同时又能细致入微地体察每一个当下体验的每个细节，达到完全的清晰。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">如果你说</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我就是它</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">，那清晰就会消失。任何分割都阻碍了</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">真正的见</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">为何还需要这个</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">？</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">觉知是一股明净光流，哪里都找不到中心。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">如果我们继续试图将觉知限定为藏匿在某处的</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">自我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">，那明净的光流就无法被体验，量子般的空性也将不为人知。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">微笑</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1">Original Text:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Thusness:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Yes Long Chen,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">But for penetrating insight to arise there must be
the willingness to let go of false beliefs.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Not to create any sort of beliefs first, give up
everything and see and feel from this raw</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">state. Not to say there is a ‘doer’, a ‘controller’,
not to react to your thoughts and</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">memories, just merely feel and see the process. Not
to immediately jump into</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">conclusion and create a ‘Source’ to fill the
in-between gaps to satisfy the thinking mind.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Just conquer it with utmost sincerity. Allow ‘being
done’ and understand the meaning of</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">‘doing without a doer’ – non doing. Do not separate
‘pure-awareness’ from the ‘being</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">done’. Do not create a Source and separate it from
the ‘Movement’. Instead be Still and</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">simply Feel the ‘being done’ with totality. The
experience is like knowing without thought</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">and yet dwelling into even the minuteness details of
every immediate experience with</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">complete clarity. If you say I am IT, the clarity is
lost. Any separation prevents ‘True</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Seeing’. Why is this ‘I’ necessary? Awareness is a
stream of clear luminosity without a</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">center to be found anywhere. If we continue to try
contain awareness as ‘Self’ hiding</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">somewhere, clear luminosity will not be experienced
and the QUANTUM empty nature</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">will not be known. Smile</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1">Footnotes/Annotations (if any):</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">– “non doing” is rendered as “</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">无为</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">，</span>emphasizing the idea of action without a doer.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1">Paragraph 5</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译说明：</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">以上翻译严格按照要求逐句、逐段完整翻译原文，保留所有原文结构和内容。所有佛法相关专业术语均严格采用指示的统一翻译。各段落均先给出完整的中文翻译，然后完整复现原文段落。本文涉及的对话内容主要出自</span>Longchen<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">、</span>Thusness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">及相关网友，讨论了临在、空性、无我等佛法修行体验的深层问题。各段落均在保持原文意思的同时，力求语言清晰自然，并尽量保留原文的教导性和诗意表达。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">【完】</span><o:p></o:p></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">

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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">以下为对所提供文本的段落式完整翻译与原文复现。根据您提供的所有指示，每个段落先给出简体中文翻译，然后完整复制原文段落，保持原貌、不做任何省略或删改。如超出单条消息字数限制，将以</span>“[<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">标示并在后续消息中继续翻译。请注意本次翻译会严格遵守您指定的佛教术语、格式和完整性要求。</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>Article 1:</b> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">第一段（标题和作者信息）</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">禅宗祖师菩提达摩论觉知与诸缘不可分离</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Soh <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Article 1: <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Zen Patriarch Bodhidharma on the Inseparability of Awareness
and Conditions <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Soh <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">第二段</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">以下的博客文章来自我在论坛里于</span>2008<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">年</span>10<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">月</span>9<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">日所发布的一篇帖子，内容关于如何将觉知视为显现本身，而并非一面镜子去反映，并阐述了觉知与各种缘不可分离。这也与之前的一篇博客文章</span>“Dependent
Arising of Consciousness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（识的缘起）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">相关，文中包含龙树菩萨的一段相关论述。</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">The following blog entry is from a post made in my forum on
9th October 2008. It is about seeing awareness as manifestation instead of a
mirror reflecting, and seeing the inseparability of awareness and conditions.
This is also related to a previous blog entry Dependent Arising of
Consciousness which contains a related text by Arya Nagarjuna. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">第三段（分隔线）</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">第四段</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Passerby/Thusness <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在我论坛上看到某些对禅宗祖师菩提达摩的译文不够完善，便亲自翻译了其中的一段，并在我的论坛上发表评论：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Passerby/Thusness saw some inadequateness in one of the Zen
Patriarch Bodhidharma translations, and translated himself a certain passage
and commented on my forum: <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">第五段（原文中含有中文）</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">来自达摩《血脉论》的中文原文：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">若智慧明了，此心号名法性，亦名解脱。生死不拘，一切法拘它不得，是名大自在王如来；亦名不思议，亦名圣体，亦名长生不死，亦名大仙。名虽不同，体即是一。圣人种种分别，皆不离自心。心量广大，应用无穷，应眼见色，应耳闻声，应鼻嗅香，应舌知味，乃至施为运动，皆是自心。</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（我自己翻译了部分内容以补充空缺）：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在般若智慧（</span>prajna<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）之光的照耀下，心被称为法性，心被称为解脱。生死无法束缚此心，任何诸法（现象）都无法束缚它。它也被称为大自在王如来、不思议、圣体、长生不死、大仙。名称各异，体性唯一。圣者虽然各有不同，却无一例外不在自心之中。心之容量广大，其因缘而起的作用无穷无尽。借助眼之因缘，看见色相；借助耳之因缘，听见声音；借助鼻之因缘，嗅到香气；借助舌之因缘，尝到滋味；乃至一切行为或状态，皆是自心。</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Original Chinese text from Bodhidharma’s Bloodstream Sermon
(<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">血脉论</span>): <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">若智慧明了，此心号名法性，亦名解脱。生死不拘，一切法拘它不得，是名大自在王如来；亦名不思议，亦名圣体，亦名长生不死，亦名大仙。名虽不同，体即是一。圣人种种分别，皆不离自心。心量广大，应用无穷，应眼见色，应耳闻声，应鼻嗅香，应舌知味，乃至施为运动，皆是自心。</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(I myself translated certain parts to fill in the gap): With
the illumination of wisdom (prajna), mind is known as Dharma Nature, mind is
known as Liberation. Neither life nor death can restrain this mind, no dharmas
(phenomenon) can. It’s also called the King of Great Freedom Tathagata, the
Incomprehensible, the Holy Essence, the Immortality, the Great Immortal. Its
names vary but its essence is one. Sages vary, but none are separate from his
own mind. The mind’s capacity is limitless, and its conditional functions are
inexhaustible. With the condition of eyes, forms are seen, With the condition
of ears, sounds are heard, With the condition of nose, smells are smelled, With
the condition of tongue, tastes are tasted, every movement or states are all
one’s Mind. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">第六段</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Passerby/Thusness <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的评论：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">若智慧明了，此心号名法性，亦名解脱。</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">更好的翻译方式应该是：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在般若智慧明了之中，心被称为法性，心被称为解脱。</span>”
<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">评论：必须要知道</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">心</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">本身就是解脱。这就是为什么了解自心之本性才是解脱之道。如果解脱没有被体验到，那么清晰度还不够，对于心是什么并没有真正的理解。</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">解脱就是处在其自然本初状态的清净觉知（</span>Pristine
Awareness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。因此，了解这种清净觉知是通往解脱的直接途径。如果我们无法看见五蕴本身就是我们的佛性，那么我们就不会明白无常当中无须排斥任何事物。念头自行解脱，声音自行解脱，味道自行解脱。刹那生灭本自解脱。如果我们看不到这一点，那我们就走的是渐修之路。也不建议过多地谈及自然本自圆成或自行解脱，这可能会让人误解。</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Comments by Passerby/Thusness: <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">若智慧明了，此心号名法性，亦名解脱。</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">A better way to translate this should be: <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">With the illumination of wisdom (prajna), mind is known as
Dharma Nature, mind is known as Liberation. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Comments: It is important to know that mind is itself
liberation. That is why knowing the nature of our mind is the way of
liberation. If Liberation is not experienced, then the clarity is still not
there. There is no true understanding of what mind is. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Liberation is this Pristine Awareness itself in its natural
state. That is why understanding this Pristine Awareness is the direct path
towards liberation. If we cannot see that the 5 aggregates are themselves our
Buddha Nature, then we will not understand there is nothing to shunt from the
transience. Thought liberates, sound liberates, tastes liberates. The
transience liberates. If we do not see that, then we are taking a gradual path.
It is also not advisable to speak too much about spontaneous arising or self
liberation. It can be quite misleading. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">第七段</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">应眼见色，应耳闻声，应鼻嗅香，应舌知味，乃至施为运动，皆是自心。</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">更好的翻译方式应该是：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">借助眼之因缘，看见色相；借助耳之因缘，听见声音；借助鼻之因缘，嗅到香气；借助舌之因缘，尝到滋味；乃至一切施为或动作，皆是自心。</span>”
<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thusness/Passerby <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的评论：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">此处要注意两个要点。第一，佛性就是刹那生灭之相。第二，</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">应</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的含义在于：当具足眼之因缘时，色相现起；具足耳之因缘时，声音现起。</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">觉知并非像镜子那样映照，而是显现本身。光明性是一种生起的明晰显现，而非镜子的反射。这里将</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">中心</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">转变为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">缘起</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，然而体验本身是无二的。</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我们必须学习如何见到显现即觉知，而其他一切只是缘或条件。比如说，声音就是觉知；人、木棍、钟、敲击、空气、耳朵</span>……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">都是缘。我们应当学会这样去观。所有的问题都来自我们无法以这样的方式体验觉知。</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">从世俗的角度，我们似乎体验到主客体在时空中交互。但这只是一种设定。从经验的角度，并非如此。我们应学会体验觉知即是显现本身。不存在一个能知的主体，只有也始终只有显现，一切其余都是生起之缘。所有这些只是暂时的说法，为了帮助理解。</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">应眼见色，应耳闻声，应鼻嗅香，应舌知味，乃至施为运动，皆是自心。</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">A better way to translate should be: <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">With the condition of the eye, forms are seen, With the
condition of ears, sounds are heard, With the condition of nose, smells are
smelled, With the condition of tongue, tastes are tasted, every movement or
states are all one’s Mind. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thusness/Passerby’s comments: <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Here there are 2 important points to take note. First is
that Buddha Nature is the transience. Second it is more of ‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">应</span>’. Means with the condition of the
eye, forms arise. With ears, sound arises. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Awareness is not like a mirror reflecting but rather a
manifestation. Luminosity is an arising luminous manifestation rather than a
mirror reflecting. The center here is being replaced with Dependent
Origination, the experience however is non-dual. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">One must learn how to see Appearances as Awareness and all
others as conditions. Example, sound is awareness. The person, the stick, the
bell, hitting, air, ears…are conditions. One should learn to see in this way.
All problems arise because we cannot experience Awareness this way. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Conventionally we experience in the form of subject and
object interaction taking place in a space-time continuum. This is just an
assumption. Experientially it is not so. One should learn to experience
awareness as the manifestation. There is no subject, there is only and always
manifestation, all else are conditions of arising. All these are just
provisional explanations for one to understand. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">第八段</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">进一步评论：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">所见即是觉知，所闻即是觉知，一切体验本质上都是无二的。但是这种无二的光明性，不能脱离导致它生起的</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">因缘</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。因此，不要将</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">应</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">视为觉知与外部条件的交互。如果这样理解，就仍然属于镜子映照范畴。更应将它视为即时的显现，毫无遗漏。好似整个宇宙竭尽全力成就了当下这一刻的生起，这一刻完整而无二，鲜明地显现又彻底消逝，不留痕迹。</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Further comments: <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">What’s seen is Awareness. What’s heard is Awareness. All
experiences are non-dual in nature. However this non-dual luminosity cannot be
understood apart from the ‘causes and conditions’ of arising. Therefore do not
see ‘yin’ as Awareness interacting with external conditions. If you see it as
so, then it still falls in the category of mirror-reflecting. Rather see it as
an instantaneous manifestation where nothing is excluded. As if the universe is
giving its very best for this moment to arise. A moment is complete and
non-dual. Vividly manifest and thoroughly gone leaving no traces. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">第九段</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">其他评论：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">像</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">万法由空而生，又复还归于空</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">之类的说法同样具有误导性，这会让我们把</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">空</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">视为某种形而上的实存。同样，对于</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">因缘</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也不应将其实体化为某种形而上的本体。所有这些仅仅是方便说法，旨在指出我们本来无实质、无自性的相互缘起本质。</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Other comments: <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Phrase like “everything arises from Emptiness and subsides
back to Emptiness” is equally misleading. By doing so, we have made ‘Emptiness’
into a metaphysical essence; similarly not to make the same mistake for “causes
and conditions”, not to objectify it into a metaphysical essence. All are
provisional terms to point to our insubstantial, essence-less and
interdependent nature. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">第十段（标签）</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">标签：无我（</span>Anatta<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）、缘起（</span>Dependent Origination<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）、禅（</span>Zen<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）、禅宗祖师菩提达摩（</span>Zen Patriarch Bodhidharma<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span> | <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Labels: Anatta, Dependent Origination, Zen, Zen Patriarch
Bodhidharma | <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>Article 1
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">完整内容到此。下面为</span>
Article 2<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。）</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>Article 2:</b> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">第一段（标题、作者、以及译文列表）</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">没有名词也能发动动词</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Soh <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">翻译：（越南语）</span>Không
cần danh từ để bắt đầu động từ - No nouns are necessary to initiate verbs <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（法语）</span>Les
noms ne sont pas nécessaires pour initier les verbes - No nouns are necessary
to initiate verbs <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Article 2: <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">No nouns are necessary to initiate verbs <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Soh <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Translations:&nbsp;(Vietnamese) Không cần danh từ để bắt đầu
động từ - No nouns are necessary to initiate verbs <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;(French) Les noms ne sont pas nécessaires pour initier
les verbes - No nouns are necessary to initiate verbs <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">第二段（更新说明）</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">更新：在这段对话一年之后，</span>Fishskull3
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">突破了一心（</span>One
Mind<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）并证入了无我（</span>Anatta<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）！详见《</span>No single unified awareness, just
the luminosity of appearances<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">》</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Xabir = Soh <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Update: A year after this conversation, Fishskull3 broke
through One Mind into Anatta! See&nbsp;No single unified awareness, just the
luminosity of appearances <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Xabir = Soh <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">第三段（论坛对话片段前的说明与引用）</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">level 1 <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Fishskull3 <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">· 9 hr. ago <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一切并非由觉知所构成，而实际上它本身就是觉知。在你直接的体验中，并没有某个</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">里面</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在向</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">外面</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">观看。你现在认为是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">所见</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的东西，实际上就是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">见者</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">或觉知</span>(awareness)<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的持续活动。</span>” <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">3 <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">level 2 <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">xabir <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">· just now <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我喜欢你的回答。我还想补充一点，觉知并非一个不变的实体融入万物。</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">觉知</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">其实就像</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">天气</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这个词，不过是一个代号，用来指称下雨、变湿、日照、刮风、雷电等持续不断的动态活动。</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">觉知</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">并没有它自身的内在实存，只是片刻片刻的显现；即便此刻仅仅是纯粹无形的存在，这也是另一个前景般的无二显现，而不是一个不变的背景。</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就像除了闪光之外没有所谓的闪电（闪电就是闪光</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">闪电不过是闪光的另一个称谓，并不是闪光背后的施为者</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">主体（</span>agent<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）），除了吹动也没有所谓的风，除了流动也没有所谓的水，要发动动词并不需要名词或施为者</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">主体。根本就不存在任何施为者</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">主体、见者，甚至没有所谓</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">见</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这一名词，只剩下颜色；也不存在什么施为者</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">主体、听者，甚至没有所谓</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">听</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，只有声音。一切都只是清晰而透明地显现，没有一个认识者，声音</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在听</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，景象</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在看</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。这就是无我（</span>Anatta<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）。</span>” <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><a href="https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2022/07/no-nouns-are-necessary-to-initiate-verbs.html">https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2022/07/no-nouns-are-necessary-to-initiate-verbs.html</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">level 1 <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Fishskull3 <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">· 9 hr. ago <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Everything isn’t made of awareness, it quite literally is
awareness itself. In your direct experience there isn’t anything inside looking
out at something. the very thing that you presently think is the “seen” is the
ongoing activity of the “seer” or awareness. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">3 <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">level 2 <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">xabir <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">· just now <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I like your answer. Also, I would like to add, awareness is
none other than the ongoing activity. It is not the case that awareness is an
unchanging substance modulating as everything. ‘Awareness’ is just like a word
like ‘weather’, a mere name denoting the ongoing dynamic activities of raining
wetting sun shining wind blowing lightning strike and so on and on. ‘Awareness’
has no intrinsic existence of its own than moment to moment manifestation, even
if at that moment it is just a mere sense of formless Existence, that too is
another ‘foreground’ non-dual manifestation and not an unchanging background. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Just like there is no lightning besides flash (lightning is
flashing – lightning is just another name for flash and is not the agent behind
flash), no wind besides blowing, no water besides flowing, no nouns or agents
are needed to initiate verbs. There never was an agent, a seer, or even a
seeing, besides colors, never an agent, a hearer, or even a hearing, besides
sound. Everything is just radiant and pellucid without a knower, sound hears
and scenery sees. Anatta. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">第四段</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一些来自当代仅次于达赖喇嘛、名气位居第二的佛教大师</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">禅师一行禅师（</span>Thich Nhat Hanh<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）的话节选：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">摘自：</span>http://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2008/10/sun-of-awareness-and-river-of.html
<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">以及其他</span>
Thusness/PasserBy <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">喜欢的摘录</span>—— <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我们说</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我知道风在吹</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，并不认为有什么东西在吹动某些别的东西。</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">风</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">与</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">吹</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是搭配在一起的，如果没有吹动，就没有所谓风。对于</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">知道</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">也是一样。心即所知者，所知者即心。这里我们是就风而言</span>——‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">知道</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">与风是不可分的。风和知道合而为一。我们可以直接说</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">风</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就够了，因为风的呈现就意味着知道的存在，也意味着有</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">吹</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的动作。</span>” <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">最普遍的动词是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">存在</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">：我在，你在，山在，河在。这个动词并不表达宇宙的动态生命状态。要表达这一点，我们应该用</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">变</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">或</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">成为</span>(become)’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。这两个动词也可以用作名词：</span>‘being’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">、</span>‘becoming’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，但究竟成为什么？成为谁？</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">成为</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">表示</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">不断地演变</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，就像</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">存在</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">一样普遍。我们无法将现象的</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">存在</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">与其</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">演变</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">分开，好像两者是独立的。就拿风来说，</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">吹</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就是风的存在，也是风的演变</span>……”“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在任何现象中，无论是心理的、生理的或物理的，都有一种动态的运动和生命。我们可以说这种运动、这种生命，就是无所不在的显现，也是最普遍被认识到的知觉</span>(know)<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">作用。千万别把</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">知道</span>(<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">知觉</span>)’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当成一个外在的东西，好像它赋予宇宙以生命。它就是宇宙本身的生命。舞蹈与舞者是一体的。</span>”
<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Some excerpts from the 2nd most famous Buddhist masters
(right after the Dalai Lama) of our time, the Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh : <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Excerpts from
http://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2008/10/sun-of-awareness-and-river-of.html <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">some other quotations which Thusness/PasserBy liked from the
book –“When we say I know the wind is blowing, we don’t think that there is
something blowing something else. “Wind’ goes with ‘blowing’. If there is no
blowing, there is no wind. It is the same with knowing. Mind is the knower; the
knower is mind. We are talking about knowing in relation to the wind. ‘To know’
is to know something. Knowing is inseparable from the wind. Wind and knowing
are one. We can say, ‘Wind,’ and that is enough. The presence of wind indicates
the presence of knowing, and the presence of the action of blowing’.” <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“..The most universal verb is the verb ‘to be’’: I am, you
are, the mountain is, a river is. The verb ‘to be’ does not express the dynamic
living state of the universe. To express that we must say ‘become.’ These two
verbs can also be used as nouns: ’being”, “becoming”. But being what? Becoming
what? ‘Becoming’ means ‘evolving ceaselessly’, and is as universal as the verb
“to be.” It is not possible to express the “being” of a phenomenon and its
“becoming” as if the two were independent. In the case of wind, blowing is the
being and the becoming….”“In any phenomena, whether psychological,
physiological, or physical, there is dynamic movement, life. We can say that
this movement, this life, is the universal manifestation, the most commonly
recognized action of knowing. We must not regard ‘knowing’ as something from
the outside which comes to breathe life into the universe. It is the life of
the universe itself. The dance and the dancer are one.” <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">第五段（</span>Thusness/PasserBy
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的评论）</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“……<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">作为动词、作为行动时，就不会有概念，只有体验。无二无我的体验，就是主客体如动词、如行动般的体现。并没有一个</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">心</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，只有心的活动</span>…… <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">……‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">源头</span>(Source)’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">就是那些流动的现象，从缘起的角度来理解无二的显现。</span>” <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Comments by Thusness/PasserBy: “…as a verb, as action, there
can be no concept, only experience. Non-dual anatta (no-self) is the experience
of subject/Object as verb, as action. There is no mind, only mental activities…
…Source as the passing phenomena… and how non-dual appearance is understood
from Dependent Origination perspective.” <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简体中文翻译：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">第六段</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">禅师一行禅师说：</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当我们说</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">正在下雨</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，我们指的是下雨正在发生。你不需要某个在上方的人来使雨落下。并不是有雨，以及某个使雨落下的主体。事实上，当你说</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">雨在下</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">时，就已经很有趣了，因为如果它不下，就不叫雨了。我们的说话方式习惯于主语加动词，因此当我们说</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">它在下雨</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">时，需要这个</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">它</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">来作为主语，好像在说是谁让雨可以落下。但当我们深入观察，就会发现不需要一个</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">下雨者</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，只需要雨本身。下雨和雨是一体的。鸟群形成与鸟群本身是一体的</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这里没有</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">自我</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，没有谁在操控。</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我们把一种心所</span>(mental
formation)<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">称作</span> vitarka<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，也就是</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">初念</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">用英文动词</span>‘to
think<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（思考）</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">时，我们习惯使用人称作主语：</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我思考</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">、</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">你思考</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">、</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">他思考</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">。可实际上，要形成一个念头并不需要一个思维者（主语）。思维无需思维者</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这绝对是可能的。思维就是思维某个事物。感知就是感知某个事物。感知者与被感知对象是一体的。</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">当笛卡尔说</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我思故我在</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">时，他的意图是：如果我在思考，必然存在一个</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">才能使思考成为可能。当他说</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我思考</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">时，他相信自己可以由此证明</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">是存在的。我们深受执著于自我的习气，但当我们深入观察时，就会发现一个念头并不需要一个思维者才能存在。并没有一个隐藏在背后的思维者，只有思维就已足够。</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">如果此刻笛卡尔先生在这里，我们或许会问他：</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">笛卡尔先生，您说</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我思故我在</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，但您究竟是什么？您就是您的思维本身。思维</span>——<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">这就够了。思维显现出来，无需一个自我在背后操控。</span>’ <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无思维者之思维、无感受者之感受。没有自我，我们的愤怒又是什么？这是我们禅修的所缘境。所有五十一种心所都在没有一个幕后自我的情况下生起和显现，不是某个自我先安排好这个出现、再让那个出现。我们的意识习惯依赖于</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我执</span>’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">（</span>manas<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）的观念。</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">但我们可以修行去更深入地了知第八识（</span>store
consciousness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，阿赖耶识），其中含藏了所有尚未在我们显意识中显现的心所种子。我们通过禅修去观照，以在我们的观念中带来光明与澄澈。当无我知见出现时，我们的错觉就消除了。我们称这为转化。在佛教传统中，透过深刻的了解，一切皆可转化。当无我的洞见现前，那个</span>‘<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">我在</span>(manastic)’<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">的虚幻概念便崩解，我们便能够当下享受自由与安乐。</span>’” <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">原文：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“…Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh: <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">‘When we say it’s raining, we mean that raining is taking
place. You don’t need someone up above to perform the raining. It’s not that
there is the rain, and there is the one who causes the rain to fall. In fact,
when you say the rain is falling, it’s very funny, because if it weren’t
falling, it wouldn’t be rain. In our way of speaking, we’re used to having a
subject and a verb. That’s why we need the word “it” when we say, “it rains.”
“It” is the subject, the one who makes the rain possible. But, looking deeply,
we don’t need a “rainer,” we just need the rain. Raining and the rain are the
same. The formations of birds and the birds are the same – there’s no “self,”
no boss involved. There’s a mental formation called vitarka, “initial thought.”
<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">When we use the verb “to think” in English, we need a
subject of the verb: I think, you think, he thinks. But, really, you don’t need
a subject for a thought to be produced. Thinking without a thinker – it’s
absolutely possible. To think is to think about something. To perceive is to
perceive something. The perceiver and the perceived object that is perceived
are one. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">When Descartes said, “I think, therefore I am,” his point
was that if I think, there must be an “I” for thinking to be possible. When he
made the declaration “I think,” he believed that he could demonstrate that the
“I” exists. We have the strong habit or believing in a self. But, observing
very deeply, we can see that a thought does not need a thinker to be possible.
There is no thinker behind the thinking – there is just the thinking; that’s
enough. Now, if Mr. Descartes were here, we might ask him, “Monsieur Descartes,
you say, ‘You think, therefore you are.’ But what are you? You are your
thinking. Thinking – that’s enough. Thinking manifests without the need of a
self behind it.” <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thinking without a thinker. Feeling without a feeler. What
is our anger without our ‘self’? This is the object of our meditation. All the
fifty-one mental formations take place and manifest without a self behind them
arranging for this to appear, and then for that to appear. Our mind
consciousness is in the habit of basing itself on the idea of self, on manas. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">But we can meditate to be more aware of our store
consciousness, where we keep the seeds of all those mental formations that are
not currently manifesting in our mind. When we meditate, we practice looking
deeply in order to bring light and clarity into our way of seeing things. When
the vision of no-self is obtained, our delusion is removed. This is what we
call transformation. In the Buddhist tradition, transformation is possible with
deep understanding. The moment the vision of no-self is there, manas, the
elusive notion of ‘I am,’ disintegrates, and we find ourselves enjoying, in
this very moment, freedom and happiness.’” <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">(<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">至此已完整翻译了</span>“Article
1”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">和</span>“Article
2”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">所有段落。</span>) <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">脚注</span>/<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">附注（如果有）：</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">[<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无</span>] <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">简短解释（关键概念、上下文、译法选择）</span></b><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">1. <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在翻译</span>“awareness”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">时，主要使用了</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">觉知</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">或在上下文中使用</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">清净觉知（</span>Pristine
Awareness<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">等，以强调其本来明觉、无二的特性。</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">2. <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">在提及</span>“view”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">时，根据要求统一译为</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">知见</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">，体现佛教中对于见地的含义。</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">3. <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">引文中部分术语已按您要求使用固定译法，如</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">无我（</span>Anatta<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">、</span>“<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">缘起（</span>Dependent
Origination<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">）</span>”<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">等，并保留了原文括号中英文以供对照。</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">4. <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">由于原文中部分英文段落含有重复或相近表达，皆按指示完整呈现并直译，确保不漏不改。</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">5. <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">所有原文段落依次呈现，绝无删减、合并或跳译。</span><span lang="ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: Aptos; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Aptos; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">如有任何需要进一步澄清之处，请告知。以上即为严格遵循所给指示的完整中英双语翻译。</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">---<o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">“Toni Packer </span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">关于</span> Maha</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">“Toni Packer on Maha</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Soh</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Soh</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">有人问我，</span>Toni Packer </span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">是否描述了</span> Maha.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Someone asked me if Toni Packer described Maha.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我说，</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">I said,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">这就是</span> maha</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">“This is maha</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Toni Packer</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">，《临在的奇迹》：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Toni Packer, The Wonder of Presence:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">当我谈论倾听时，我并不仅仅指用耳朵聆听。这里的倾听包含了感知的整体</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">所有感官都处于开放且活跃的状态，且远不止于此。眼睛、耳朵、鼻子、舌头、身体和心灵都是感受的、开放的，而非受控的。一句禅语将其描述为</span>‘</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">用眼睛聆听，用耳朵观看</span>’</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">。它指的是这种感知的完整性，即存在的完整！</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">另一句禅语要求：</span>‘</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">在钟声响起之前倾听钟声！</span>’
</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">啊，从理性上来说这毫无意义，不是吗？但总有那么一刻，当钟声在你意识到之前便已响起！你可能永远都不会察觉到！你整个存在都在共鸣！在那之中没有任何分割</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">一切都在共鸣。</span>”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">“When I talk about listening, I don’t mean just
listening with the ear. Listening here includes the totality of perception—all
senses open and alive, and still much more than that. The eyes, ears, nose,
tongue, body and mind are receptive, open, not controlled. A Zen saying
describes it as “hearing with one’s eyes and seeing with one’s ears.” It refers
to this wholeness of perception. The wholeness of being!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Another Zen saying demands: “Hear the bell before it
rings!” Ah, it doesn’t make any sense rationally, does it? But there is a
moment when that bell is ringing before you know it! You may never know it!
Your entire being is ringing! There’s no division in that—everything is
ringing.”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">摘自《寻找全新的倾听之道》</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Excerpt from Finding a New Way to Listen</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">标签：</span>Maha, Toni Packer 0 </span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">条评论</span> | |</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Labels: Maha, Toni Packer 0 comments | |</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Sep</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Sep</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">04</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">04</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">寻找全新的倾听之道</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Finding a New Way to Listen</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Soh</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Soh</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">在探讨全新的倾听方式之前，请允许我分享在这片非凡土地上穿行于田野与树林中的喜悦。仅仅走出接待区，关上身后的门，走出那遮挡阳光与雨水的屋檐，所有的围护都已消失</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">连身体都不例外！我所是的，只不过是鸟儿的歌唱与振翅、赤裸枝条在微风中摇曳、部分冻结又在融化的地面、覆盖着薄冰的池塘，以及近在咫尺的蓝色山丘、天空和漂浮的云朵。还有那跳动的心脏与在路上行走的人们。甚至那些不在此处的</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">难道我们这一刻不都是共同存在的吗</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">在静谧中观照一切？</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Before inquiring into a new way of listening, let me
just share the joy of walking through the fields and woods on this
extraordinary land. Just stepping out of the reception area, closing the door
behind me, walking away from the overhang that shields one from the sun and
rain, there isn’t any enclosure left—not even a body! All I am is the birds
singing and fluttering, bare branches swaying in the breeze, the ground partly
frozen yet melting, the pond covered with a thin layer of ice, and the blue hills,
sky and wandering clouds within close reach. There is also a throbbing heart
and the people walking on the path. Even those who are not here—aren’t we all
together this one moment—beholding everything out of stillness?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">那是一种不被</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">所认同的静谧</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">不再受过去无尽故事和各种曾经塑造我形象的影像所束缚。对</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">的认同是一座活生生的囚笼。在这分隔的生命中，我们不断渴望被接纳、感到重要、被倾听、被鼓励、被支持和得到安慰。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">It is the stillness of not being identified with
me—the endless stories of the past and the various images that have represented
me to myself and others. Identification with me is a living prison. In it we
constantly want to be accepted, feel important, be listened to, be encouraged,
supported and comforted in this separate life of ours.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">但现在，此刻，在这敞开的天空下的新鲜空气中，存在着一种无需任何需求、无需成为什么的自由</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">仅仅是作为一个开放的倾听空间，在这里人们行走，乌鸦呱呱叫，冰面在脚下裂开。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">But now, here, in the fresh air under the open sky
there is the freedom of not needing anything, not needing to beanything—just
being this open listening space where people walk, crows caw and ice cracks
underfoot.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">为何我觉得倾听在独自生活或共同生活中如此极其重要？正因为静默、热情、此刻、无期望或努力的倾听，是通往整体生活、没有你我分离的门户。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Why do I feel that listening is so immensely
important in living alone or together? It is because listening quietly,
passionately, now, without expectation or effort, is the gateway to living in
wholeness, without the separation of you and me.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">这便是我们的主要问题：在那寂静与静谧的时刻，我们能否以深沉的方式倾听？还是心灵正忙于这世界、我们的生活、我们家庭中万千烦恼？我们能否立即意识到，一个只顾自身烦恼的心灵无法自由倾听？这不是评价，而是事实。当我沉浸于自我担忧时，根本无法听到他人的声音。鸟鸣和微风的歌唱便不会存在于心中充满自我的时刻。所以，心灵能否暂时放下问题，焕然一新地倾听？此刻！我们是否在共同倾听？乌鸦的呱呱叫声、飞机的低鸣、狗的吠叫，或是任何此刻在你倾听之处响起的声音。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">This is our main question: Can we listen in a deep
way in a moment of silence and stillness? Or is the mind preoccupied with the
10,000 worries of this world, of our life, of our family? Can we realize right
now that a mind that is occupied with itself cannot listen freely? This is not
said in judgment—it is a fact. It’s impossible for me to hear someone else
while I’m worrying about myself. Birdcalls and the songs of the breeze do not
exist when the mind is full of itself. This is within the experience of all of
us. So, can the mind put its problems aside for one moment and listen freshly?
This moment! Are we listening together? The caw of the crows, the quiet hum of
a plane, a dog’s barking, or whatever sounds are alive where you are listening
right now.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">在大自然中快乐地倾听相对容易</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">树叶、草丛、花朵、树木、湖泊和山丘不像我们那样思考和忧虑，因此不会引发思考。也许对于鹿和鸟来说，确实存在一些初级的思维，但那并不会使我们陷入思考（除非我们是狂热的观鸟者，或担心下个季节过多的鹿和猎人的命运）。思维可以将一切变成问题，但我们大多数人发现在大自然中无我倾听之美，比在人群中更易获得。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">It is relatively easy to listen happily in
nature—the leaves, grasses, flowers, trees, lakes and hills do not think and
worry like we do, and therefore do not provoke thinking. Maybe for deer and
birds there is some rudimentary thinking going on but that need not engage us
in thought (unless we are avid birdwatchers or we worry about the plight of too
many deer and too many hunters next season). Thought can make a problem out of
everything, but most of us find the beauty of unselfconscious listening much easier
to come upon in nature than among people.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">为什么彼此倾听如此异常困难？当我以充沛的倾听能量全然在场时，我并不觉得听懂你所说的话有多困难。空间不再被自我关切占据，而是向倾听、观看和理解你言语的意义敞开。若我未能理解，便有自由向你求得澄清。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Why is it so inordinately difficult to listen to
each other? When I am present with the abundant energy of listening, I do not
find it difficult to hear what you are saying. Instead of being busy with
self-concern, the space is open to hearing, seeing, and understanding the
meaning of your words. If I don’t understand, then there is the freedom to ask
you for clarification.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">如果没有这种开放的临在能量空间，内在的人类习性牢牢按捺着要被听见，它们便不愿为倾听他人让路。当我急于表达自己时，我怎能听到你呢？当我认为自己是对的，而你是错的时，我怎能抽出时间与心思去理解你？当我确信自己更明智时？当我迫切需要关注，并对他人得到关注心怀怨恨时？</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Without this open space of presence—energy, the
inner tapes of human conditioning press hard to be heard—they do not want to
make way for listening to others. How can I possibly hear you when I am dying
to say something myself? How can I take the time and care to understand you
when I think that I am right and you are wrong? When I’m sure that I know
better? When I sorely need attention and resent anyone else getting it?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">当我对你过去的表现、你如何批评或奉承我抱有固定印象时，我能听见你吗？当我希望你能不同于你本来的样子时，我能自由地倾听吗？当我认为自己已经知道你将要说什么时，我是否有耐心倾听你？当我在评判你时，我还能敞开心扉倾听吗？评判和偏见深藏在心灵的隐秘角落，只有通过好奇与内在透明才能被发现。唯有被发现的，才能终结。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Can I hear you when I have fixed images about how
you have been in the past, how you have criticized or flattered me? Can I
listen freely when I would like you to be different from the way you are? Do I
have the patience to listen to you when I think I already know what you are
going to say? Am I open to listening to you when I am judging you? Judgments
and prejudices lie deeply hidden in the recesses of the mind and require
curiosity and inner transparency in order to be discovered. Only what is discovered
can end.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我们可以不断在这个列表中添加更多问题，但重要的是开始从根本上质疑我们的倾听。关键不在于问</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我如何才能达到纯净的倾听？</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">而在于问</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">在面对所有这些问题时，我此刻的倾听源自何处？</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">它是被各种观念和态度所阻碍，还是源于真正当下的临在？</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">We can add more and more to this list, but the
important thing is to start fundamentally questioning our listening. The point
is not to ask, “How can I achieve pure listening?” but rather, “Where is my
listening coming from this moment, in light of all these questions?” Is it
hampered by different ideas and attitudes or does it arise from a moment of
being truly present?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我们许多人真诚地渴望成为更好的倾听者，并可能认为这只有在未来某个时候摆脱</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">之后才会发生。这是一个错误的假设。即使</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">的电路深深植根于大脑和身体中，对真正理解你的真挚渴望和兴趣也会使能量聚集起来，专注地倾听你所说的话。这种专注的倾听可能会清空对自我关注的杂念。通过倾听你的话语，并真心希望理解你所要传达的意思，我进入了你的内心</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">你的问题、你的状态、整个你。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Many of us sincerely desire to become better
listeners and may think that it will only happen once we are free of the me
sometime in the future. This is an erroneous assumption. Even though the me
circuit is deeply ingrained within brain and body, a genuine desire and
interest to understand you allows energy to gather in listening attentively to
what you are saying. This attentive listening may empty out the preoccupation
with myself. Through listening to your words and truly wishing to understand
what you mean to convey, I enter you—your question, your condition, the whole
you.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">当我对你所说的毫无兴趣时，我能暂停下来倾听内在吗？我能瞥一眼内心正在发生什么吗？是抗拒吗？是厌倦吗？还是那些并未真正被听见的流逝话语？当有清晰的见证时，那本身就是一种转变。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">When I’m not really interested in what you are
saying, can I pause and listen within? Can I take a glance at what is going on
inside? Is it resistance? Boredom? The passing by of words that are not really
heard? When there is clear seeing, that in itself is a shift.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">倾听自我净化。并不一定意味着对你所说的产生全新的兴趣。我可能倾向于进行深入对话，而你却希望叙述你的故事或引起我的注意。当倾听源自整体时，便会产生恰当的回应。这就是倾听的智慧。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Listening purifies itself. It’s not that there is
necessarily a new interest in what you are saying. I may prefer to dialogue
deeply while you want to relate your story or get my attention. When listening
comes out of wholeness, an appropriate response happens. That is the wisdom of
listening.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">有时，当我在会议中讲话时，一群乌鸦飞过</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">呱，呱，呱，呱，呱</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我稍微举起手问道：</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">你听到了吗？</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">那人可能会摇头</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">倾听的空间已被其他事物充满。我们此刻在这里吗？</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Sometimes, when I’m talking in a meeting and a flock
of crows flies by—caw, caw, caw, caw, caw—I raise my hand a bit and ask: “Do
you hear that?” The person may shake her head—the listening space was filled up
with other things. Are we here right now?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">当你听到那个问题时，会发生什么？仅仅是呱，呱，呱，还是你在思考，</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我做得对吗？</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">或者</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">她想让我说什么？</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">像听树间风声般聆听那些念头。那是同一种倾听。它们是不同的事物</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">风、树、鸟的声音与念头的声音各不相同</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">但那都是同一种倾听。一种完整的倾听！</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">When you hear that question, what happens? Is it
simply caw, caw, caw, or are you thinking, “Am I doing it right?” or, “What
does she want me to say?” Hear those thoughts like you hear the wind in the
trees. It’s the same listening. It’s different things—the sound of wind and
trees and birds is different from the sound of thoughts—but it’s the same
listening. One whole listening!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">出于某种奇妙而未知的原因，我们偶尔会完全在场。有那么一刻，我们听见、看见、感受一切融为一体。随后心灵介入，对其进行解释、认知、比较并储存。这并非有意为之</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">而是习惯使然。没有人刻意为之。命名、喜好、厌恶、企图保留某物以及对失去它的恐惧</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">这些都是根深蒂固的心灵过程，自然而然地运作着。如果我们能窥见这一点，感受到那纯粹的习惯性，那么我们对所谓他人以及对自己都会更加宽容与耐心。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">For marvelous unknown reasons, once in a while we
are completely here. For a moment we hear, see and feel all one. Then the mind
comes in to explain it, know it, compare it and store it. This is not an
intentional process—it’s habit. No one is doing it. The naming, liking and
disliking, wanting to keep something and fearing the loss of it—these are all
ingrained mind processes rolling off on their own. If we get a glimpse of that,
get a feel for what is purely habitual, then we will be much more tolerant and
patient with the so-called others and with ourselves.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">当我谈论倾听时，我并不仅仅指用耳朵聆听。这里的倾听包含了感知的整体</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">所有感官都处于开放与活跃状态，远不止于此。眼睛、耳朵、鼻子、舌头、身体和心灵都是感受的、开放的，而非受控的。一句禅语将其描述为</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">用眼睛聆听，用耳朵观看。</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">它指的是这种感知的完整性，即存在的完整！</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">另一句禅语要求：</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">在钟声响起之前倾听钟声！</span>”
</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">啊，从理性上来说这毫无意义，不是吗？但总有那么一刻，当钟声在你意识到之前便已响起！你可能永远都不会察觉到！你整个存在都在共鸣！在那之中没有任何分割</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">一切都在共鸣。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">When I talk about listening, I don’t mean just
listening with the ear. Listening here includes the totality of perception—all
senses open and alive, and still much more than that. The eyes, ears, nose,
tongue, body and mind are receptive, open, not controlled. A Zen saying
describes it as “hearing with one’s eyes and seeing with one’s ears.” It refers
to this wholeness of perception. The wholeness of being!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Another Zen saying demands: “Hear the bell before it
rings!” Ah, it doesn’t make any sense rationally, does it? But there is a
moment when that bell is ringing before you know it! You may never know it!
Your entire being is ringing! There’s no division in that—everything is
ringing.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">那么，我们是否可以通过满怀惊奇地询问是什么阻止了我们在钟声响起前倾听，而不断地了解自己，而不是通过学习来增加我们的知识储备呢？</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">So can we learn more and more about ourselves, not
by studying in order to increase our store of information, but through asking
in wonderment what keeps us from hearing the bell before it rings?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">【当前部分完毕】</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1">[</span><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">（注：下续消息将继续翻译余下部分内容，包括从</span>“Labels:
Anatta, Luminosity, Maha, Mind Body Drop, Toni Packer…”</span><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">开始的部分。）</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">下面继续对余下文本进行完整翻译。因篇幅较长，以下为第二部分内容，每个段落均依次给出简体中文翻译和原文，未作任何删减或释义。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">标签：无我，灵光，</span>Maha</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">，</span>Mind Body Drop</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">，</span>Toni
Packer 0 </span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">条评论</span> | |</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Labels: Anatta, Luminosity, Maha, Mind Body Drop,
Toni Packer 0 comments | |</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Aug</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Aug</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">14</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">14</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Enlightenment</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Enlightenment</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Soh</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Soh</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">作者</span> Toni Packer</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">，《临在的奇迹》</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">by Toni Packer, “The Wonder of Presence”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">有人问：</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我们</span>‘</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">觉醒</span>’</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">与否真的重要吗？</span>”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Someone asked, “Does it really matter if we ‘wake
up’ or not?”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">不久前，我去山上散步。多么美好的一天啊！温暖与凉爽同时存在，空气中弥漫着温柔，鸟儿处处在歌唱。湿漉漉、浸透泥泞的鞋子走过呱呱作响的池塘，那里小小的水上飞鱼在水面上来回穿梭，留下极其细微的痕迹。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">A little while ago I took a walk up the hill. What a
delightful morning! Warmth and coolness were present at the same time.
Gentleness pervaded the air, and birds were singing everywhere. Wet, sodden
shoes passed by the croaking pond where tiny little skimmers crisscrossed back
and forth on the surface of the water, leaving their ever so delicate tracks.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">在那宽阔的上层原野上，几只鹿正在吃草。它们抬头望向这个闯入者，长长的白尾微微颤动，仿佛在互相注视。随后，它们又继续低头啃食。阳光普照的原野上点缀着各种色彩，盛开的草丛在微风中摇曳，野蔷薇的香气充盈了空气。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">On the big upper field several deer were grazing.
Looking up at the intruder, their long white tails twitched a little as we
looked at each other. Then they kept on grazing. Colors dotted the sun-drenched
field, and blooming grasses were swaying in the breeze. The fragrance of wild
roses filled the air.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">如果你与我一道走过这个美好的早晨，我们会一起因</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">觉醒是否重要</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">这个问题而发笑。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">If you had walked along with me this beautiful
morning, we both would have laughed at the question whether it matters if we
wake up or not.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">若我们沉浸于愤怒、担忧或挫败之中，就不会发笑。我们也无法看到这片生机勃勃的美丽原野。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Had we been caught up in anger, worry, or
frustration, we wouldn’t have laughed. We would not have seen the lovely
vibrant field.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我们心中充满诸多疑问。它们从何而来？我们的疑问是否另有深层动机？我们能否带着好奇去探问、去观察？有人问：</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">究竟存在终极、完整和绝对的觉悟吗？</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我们真的在问：</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">如果存在这样的觉悟，我能获得它吗？</span>”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">We have so many questions. Whence do they arise? Are
there deeper motives to our question? Can we wonder about it and look? Someone
asked, “Is there such a thing as ultimate, complete and total enlightenment?”
Are we really asking, “If there is such a thing, can I get it?”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">对那完整和绝对觉悟的追问从何而来？渴望它又源自何处？以及因得不到它而生的挫败感？这一切难道都源自我们内心深处对自己、对他人以及对世界的不满吗？有时我们甚至无法说出引发这些感受的原因；我们只是感到痛苦地失去了和谐。内在有一种空虚感，不是广阔空间的空旷，而是一种内心毫无价值的感觉，感到孤独、远离幸福，与人隔绝。或许还有被遗弃的恐惧，或觉得不被爱。所有这些都在我们人身上不断发生。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Where does wondering about complete and total
enlightenment come from? And from where does wanting it arise? And the
frustration about not getting it? Doesn’t it all come out of our deep inner
discontent with ourselves, with others, and with the world? Sometimes we can’t
even say what it is that causes it; we just feel painfully out of sync. There
is an inner meaninglessness, a feeling of hollow emptiness. Not the emptiness
of vast open space, but a feeling of nothing of value inside, feeling lonely,
cut off from happiness and alienated from people. There may be the fear of
abandonment, or feeling unloved. All of these things are going on in human
beings.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">出于填补内心空虚和寻找持久满足的欲望，我们会生出有关觉悟的问题，并伴随着渴望找到意义、摆脱孤立的强烈期盼。大脑创造出无穷的概念和幻想以缓解内心的痛苦。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Out of the desires to fill up the inner depletion
and find lasting contentment may come questions about enlightenment, and with
them the yearning to find meaning and not feel isolated from everything and
everyone. The brain creates endless concepts and fantasies to alleviate the
inner suffering.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">如果我们对这些思想和情感的运动变得越来越透明，我们就会意识到，内心的痛苦既不能通过常规的物质方法，也不能通过传统的灵性途径来消解。金钱、地位、拥有或人际关系都未能带来持久的满足。宗教信仰也许能提供安全感与支持的幻觉，但对许多人来说，它们根本无效。我们曾在一个又一个信仰体系中徘徊，被拯救、解放或觉悟的承诺所吸引，但对真理与清晰的真正渴求，只有靠真正的</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">食粮</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">才能平息。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">If we become increasingly transparent to these
movements of thought and feeling, we will realize that inner pain is not
dissolved by conventional ways of dealing with it, materially or spiritually.
Money, position, acquisitions, or relationships have not brought lasting
contentment. Religious beliefs may provide illusions of security and support,
but for many of us they simply have not worked. We have wandered from one
belief system to another, attracted by promises of salvation, liberation, or
enlightenment, but real hunger for truth and clarity can be stilled only with
genuine food.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">那善于议论的心灵能够随时抛出疑问和怀疑的问题。也许我们会突然发现自己处于一种宁静开放、深邃静默中，没有任何缺失感。接着，思绪涌现，开始探问：</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">这会持续吗？我能把它找回来吗？它真实存在吗？这就是觉悟吗，还是还不够？</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">一想到过去那自由的时刻，疑虑的种子便立刻萌生，质问道：</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">这就是全部吗？不可能！一定会有比我刚刚经历的更令人信服的体验！</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">念头就像紧缠不放的藤蔓，扼杀了当下的生动临在。真正地在场，就是那未知、不可知、未加修饰的状态。真正的在场是不含任何关于自我的怀疑或肯定。那就是</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">无我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">！关于</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">的念头不过是念头，它们具有遮蔽清晰的巨大力量。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">The discursive mind is capable of throwing up doubts
and sceptical questions at any time. Maybe we suddenly find ourselves in quiet
openness, a profound stillness without any feeling of lack. Then thought comes
in and beings to wonder “Will this last? Can I get it back? Was it real? Was
this enlightenment or is there more? It doesn’t seem enough.” Thinking about a
past moment of freedom immediately sows the seeds of doubt by asking, “Is this
all there is? It can’t be! There must be a more convincing experience than what
I just had!” Thoughts grow like clinging vines that choke the living presence.
Truly being here is being unknown, unknowable, unadorned. Being here is absence
of doubting or affirming thoughts about myself. It is the absence of me!
Thoughts that arise about me are just thoughts, with their enormous power to
obscure clarity.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我们是否的任务是弄清楚是否存在像佛陀所宣扬的那种完全、绝对的觉悟？我一直喜爱佛陀的话：</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我从完全无上觉悟中实际上什么都没有获得，这正是它被称为完全无上觉悟的原因。</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">无物可得，无人可得，无空间可据，也无人来占据。只有那活生生的临在，与夜空中闪烁的晚星相伴。对所有那些关于自己想象并紧紧抓住的东西</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我是什么，我曾经是什么，我将会是什么，我可能或应当是什么</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">的放下与消融。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Is it our task to find out whether or not there is
total and complete enlightenment like the Buddha proclaimed? I always liked the
Buddha’s saying: “I truly attained nothing from complete, unexcelled
enlightenment, and that is why it is called complete, unexcelled enlightenment”
No-thing, no one to attain it, spaceless space, no one there to occupy it. Just
alive presence with the evening star in the sky. Dying to all the stuff
imagined and clung to about oneself – what I am, what I was, what I will be,
what I could be, should be…</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我们能否以日益加深的清晰与智慧，将所有概念仅仅视为概念？而不是急速奔向那只存在于念头中的未来承诺？我们能否清楚地区分何为思维，何为此刻真正的在场，而无需去思考它？我们能否毫不费力地辨别？</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Can we see all concepts as concepts with deepening
clarity and wisdom? Not immediately lurching toward something promised in the
future that has its sole existence in thoughts? Can we clearly discern what
constitutes thinking and what is actually present right here without needing to
think it? Can we discern it effortlessly?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">敞开的窗户、新鲜空气拂过皮肤、四处灿烂的阳光，各种啁啾之声、乌鸦的呼唤与呼吸、脉动的生命！呱，呱，呱，呱</span>……</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">全身的感觉、呼吸、凝视</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">不是文字，而是万物的生机。我们现在能否意识到</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">完全无上觉悟</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">只不过是一个概念？</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">The open windows, fresh air touching the skin,
bright sunshine everywhere, all kinds of twittering sounds, crows calling and
breathing, pulsating life! Caw, caw, caw, caw.. Sensations throughout the body,
breathing, beholding it, not the words, but the aliveness of it all. Can we
realize now that “complete unexcelled enlightenment” is a concept?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">你可能会真诚地反对：</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我怎能确信觉悟仅仅是个概念？也许它是真实的。许多开悟的老师都曾谈论并写下关于它的东西。那么</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我们是否该一起问：</span>‘</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">没有所有概念的觉悟究竟是什么？</span>’”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">You may sincerely object, “How can I know for sure
that enlightenment is just a concept? Maybe it is real. Lots of enlightened
teachers have told and written about it. So – shall we then ask together: “What
is enlightenment without all concepts?”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">让我们深切探讨这个问题，不求他人对经验的描述，不寻求承诺，也不期望确知，而是因不知而发问，以冥想的、深刻的、幽暗的方式探询，直到我们不再分辨何为</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">开悟</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">或</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">未开悟</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">！在无知中静默深思，概念的世界便会被抛在身后。我们会以这种方式进入问题吗？</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Let us delve profoundly into this question, not
asking for other people’s description of experiences, not looking for promises,
nor expecting to know for sure, but questioning out of not knowing, inquiring
meditatively, deeply, darkly, until we don’t know anymore what is “enlightened”
or “un-enlightened”! In silently wondering deeply without knowing, the
conceptual world is left behind. Are we going into the question in this way?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我们太常因为内心对某种解脱痛苦的渴望，而阻碍了深层探询。与其问</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">什么是觉悟</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">，我们能否质疑内心那种不足感？我们曾试图用各式各样的幻想来填补那空虚，用娱乐、物质拥有、成就、人际关系、灵性追寻和庄严的誓言</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">任何能够填补那疼痛空洞的东西。然而，我们是否曾真切、无条件地直接探索过那空虚？</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">All too often our yearning for something to
alleviate the inner suffering gets in the way of deep inquiry. Rather than
asking, “What is enlightenment” can we question our inner feeling of
insufficiency? We have tried to fill it with fantasies of all descriptions,
with entertainment, acquisitions, achievements, relationships, spiritual
searching, and solemn vows – anything to fill the aching void. But have we ever
really explored it directly, unconditionally?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">无论是在闭关中还是在日常生活中，当我们意识到这一点时，我们能否与那空虚的疼痛共处，而不给它冠以任何名称？让所有标签随风而逝，只停留在此刻所呈现中</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">那份不加命名的苦楚。停留在那难以言表的状态中，不去抵抗，不去抗争，不去寻找其它，只让眼前的一切完整地呈现：在身、心、整体上，让它自然而然地呈现，而不加知晓。不要成为支持或反对它的施为者</span>/</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">作者。只是在混沌寂静之中保持这份静默的临在。在这之中，一种展开的透明性开始浮现。它在一个人耐心、静默、无条件地坐着时发生。这里所说的</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">坐着</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">仅仅意味着全然与眼前的一切同在。不向任何别处移动，也不朝向什么，只是全然停留于整体之中</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">一种包含了所有身体感受、呼吸、风暴、雨、阳光、鸟鸣、咳嗽、风扇嗡嗡声的强烈临在，一切就在这里，同时展现，无缝连接。观察涌现的念头，即将触发的情绪，产生的身体感觉，以及随后纷纷消退的更多念头、情绪、感觉、体感</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">全然与这一切同在。没有任何可以逃避的地方。一切无分隔地在此呈现。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Becoming conscious of it in or out of retreat, can
we be with the ache of emptiness ,not calling it by any name? Let all labels
fly into thin air and stay with what is here, discomfort without calling it
discomfort. Staying here with what’s indefinable. Not resisting, not fighting,
not looking for anything else. Just letting what is here be here in its
entirety, physically, mentally, totally. Letting it be without knowing. Not
becoming the doer for or against it. Just this quiet presence in the midst of
the silence of chaos. In this there is an unfolding transparency. It happens
when one sits patiently, silently, unconditionally. By “sitting” I simply mean
being totally with what is here. Not moving away or toward something else, just
remaining with the whole thing – an intense presence that includes all bodily
sensations, breathing, wind-storming, raining, sunning, birding, coughing, fans
humming – everything right here, all at once, without a seam. Observing
thoughts coming up, emotions about to be triggered, physical sensations arising
and more thoughts, emotions, feelings, sensations unfolding and abating – being
with it all. There isn’t any place to escape to. Everything is here without
separation.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">让念头自然涌现，让它们如其本来般显现后又消逝。那一切都是梦境的碎片，来自无限过去的痕迹。念头或许会引发恐惧，但恐惧也可以变成透明。当它出现时，就任它呈现。不要给它冠以名称</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">标签会引出过去的记忆和反应。也无需对它产生任何感受</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">那些也都是空的。恐惧是在我们习惯性的以自我为中心的意识中不可避免的现象。我们不可能在不体验对</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">可能发生之事的恐惧中，继续维持那分离的幻觉。但幻觉和梦境也可以仅仅被看作是梦和幻觉，尽管它们能引发以恐怖、痛苦或快感形式出现的巨大内心动荡。这一切都是人类意识以</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">和</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">你</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">的分离形式展现的一部分。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Let thoughts come up, let them reveal themselves for
what they are and disappear. It all is the stuff of dreams, traces from the
infinite past. Thoughts may trigger fear, but fear too can become transparency.
When it arises, here it is. Let it be. Don’t call it by name – labels attract
memories and reactions from the past. No need to have any feelings about it –
they too are empty. Fear is an unavoidable occurrence in our habitual
self-centered consciousness. We cannot possibly live the illusion of a separate
me without experiencing fears about what may happen to it. But illusions and
dreams can also be seen as just dreams and illusions, even though they can
arouse tremendous inner turbulence in the form of horror, agony, or pleasure.
It is all part and parcel of human consciousness manifesting as separate me and
you.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">静坐凝观，目送一切不断涌现。可能会有一段录音在播放：</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">这就是冥想的全部吗？我不想将余生都花在看那些无休止的垃圾重复上。</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">但重要的不在于看到了什么，而在于观看的质量。当有人问：</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">观察念头与情绪的来去是否就是全部的冥想？</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我回答：这一切取决于观察的品质。它是否被评判、是否充满内疚、羞耻或不耐烦？当那些心理活动发生时，见其本来面目而不为之动摇。这就是无分别觉知</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">没有独立的观察者占据中心舞台。内在的展现自己、自然地呈现，无需特定的观众，无需掌声或否定。让一切在无限开放的临在空间中自然发生。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Sitting quietly, watching things come up time and
time again, a tape may be playing: “Is that what meditation is all about? I
don’t want to spend the rest of my meditative life watching endless repetitions
of garbage.” But the important thing is not what is seen but the quality of
seeing. When a person asks, “Is watching the comings and goings of thoughts and
emotions all there is to meditation?” I say that it all depends on the quality
of the watching. Is it consumed by judging, by feeling guilty, ashamed, or
impatient? As those mental movements occur, see them for what they are and
don’t be disturbed by them. That is choiceless awareness – no separate watcher
occupying center stage. The inner show is simply displaying itself on its own
and needs no particular audience, no applause or rejection . Let it all happen
as it is happening in the infinite space of open presence.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">无分别觉知</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">仅仅是另一场梦境，一个新的幻觉吗？念头可以通过思考和幻想把任何事物转化为概念。当它发生时，就见其本来面目，不要被迷惑。无分别觉知不是幻觉。它是为像你我这样的凡人而现成的。透明性自然而然展开，毫无修饰地、直接而简单地呈现出一切，无需导演。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Is “choiceless awareness” just another dream, a new
illusion? Thought can turn anything into a concept by thinking and dreaming
about it. See it when it happens and don’t be fooled by it. Choiceless
awareness is not an illusion. It is here for human beings like you and me.
Transparency unfolds on its own, revealing all there is as it is, in utter
directness and simplicity, without need for a director.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">事实上，即便在黑暗时刻，觉知仍然在。临在永远不会离开。这不是一句教条式的话，而是我们每个人都能体会到的简单事实。看那云彩，看那黑暗！听那风声！感受那呼吸！闻那花香！触摸那摇曳的草丛！云彩、风、念头、呼吸、芬芳的花朵和草不断变化，但</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">见</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">的能力却超越时间。即便疑虑遮蔽了它，当心停止运作，每一个细胞都张开去听、去看、去存在的那一刻，它便在这里。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Actually, awareness is here even during times of
darkness. Presence never goes anywhere. This is not a dogmatic statement but a
simple fact that each one of us can come upon. See the cloud, the darkness!
Hear the wind! Feel the breathing! Smell the flowers! Touch the swaying
grasses! Clouds, wind, thoughts, breathing, fragrant flowers, and grasses
change all the time, but seeing is here without time. Even though doubts may
obscure it, it is here the instant the mind stops and every cell of the body
opens up to hear and see and be.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">不必为那些已经说过的话烦扰自己的脑袋。全然在场是我们整个人，而不仅仅是头脑！我们是那不断从一个瞬间到另一个瞬间无间断的生命创造。无论是轻松漫步于田野、穿过树林、沿着海滩，或是走在城市街头，都充满着纯粹生命的喜悦、那无限的运动、声音与芳香</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">对这一切的热爱，而不将之物化为某种事物！</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">No need to bother one’s head about what has been
said. Being present is all of oneself, not just the head! We are this entire
living creation from moment to moment without a break. Walk innocently through
the fields, into the woods, along the ocean beach or in the city streets with
the sheer joy of aliveness, its infinite movements and sounds and fragrance –
the love of it all without making a thing out of it!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我们在此吗？</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Are we here?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">【本部分完毕】</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1">[</span><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">在下一条消息中继续</span>]</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">（注：下续消息将翻译接下来的部分</span>——“What Is The
‘Me’?” </span><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">及其余文段。）</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">下面继续对余下文本进行完整翻译。因篇幅较长，当前消息翻译包含下一部分内容，后续消息如有需要再继续。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">标签：无我，非二元，自我，</span>Toni Packer 0 </span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">条评论</span> | |</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Labels: Anatta, Non Dual, Self, Toni Packer 0
comments | |</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">“What Is The “Me”?”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">What Is The “Me”?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Soh</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Soh</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">作者</span> Toni Packer
(http://www.springwatercenter.org/teachers/packer/)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">by Toni Packer
(http://www.springwatercenter.org/teachers/packer/)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">以下文章改编自</span> Toni Packer </span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">在</span> 1997 </span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">年</span> 8 </span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">月闭关第四天的一次讲座。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">The following article was adapted from a talk by
Toni Packer on Day 4 of the August 1997 retreat.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">这是一个忧郁的日子，不是吗？阴暗、布满云层、凉爽、潮湿且多风。真是奇妙，这一切关于</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">天气</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">的现象！我们称之为</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">天气</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">，但它究竟是什么呢？风。雨。云彩缓缓散开。不是那些谈论中的词语，而正是这种变得阴暗、吹拂、猛烈敲击、湿润，然后转而放晴、蓝天在黑暗中显现，阳光在湿漉漉的草地和树叶上闪烁。片刻之后，会有霜冻、雪和冰覆盖；接着又回暖、融化，到处渗出水来。在一个早春的日子里，那泥泞的小路上闪烁着银色的水流。那么</span>——“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">天气</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">除了这不断变化的世间现象及其所影响的人类诸多思想、情感和行为之外，还有什么呢？喜与恶、抑郁与欣喜、创造与毁灭；一条不断变换、无处驻留的事件流，除非在思索与言谈中，否则找不到所谓的</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">天气</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">实体。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">A somber day, isn’t it? Dark, cloudy, cool, moist
and windy. Amazing, this whole affair of “the weather!” We call it “weather,”
but what is it really? Wind. Rain. Clouds slowly parting. Not the words spoken
about it, but just this darkening, blowing, pounding, wetting, and then
lightening up, blue sky appearing amidst darkness, and sunshine sparkling on
wet grasses and leaves. In a little while there’ll be frost, snow and
ice-covers. And then warming again, melting, oozing water everywhere. On an
early spring day the dirt road sparkles with streams of wet silver. So — what
is “weather” other than this incessant change of earthly conditions and all the
human thoughts, feelings, and undertakings influenced by it? Like and dislike.
Depression and elation. Creation and destruction. An ongoing, ever changing
stream of happenings abiding nowhere. No entity “weather” to be found except in
thinking and talking about it.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">那么</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">是否存在</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">、</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">自我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">、</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我自己</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">这样的实体？还是它就像</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">天气</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">一样</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">是一股不断变化的思想、图像、记忆、投射、喜好与厌恶、创造与毁灭的流动，而思维不断称之为</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">、</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我自己</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">、</span>“Toni”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">，从而把那些转瞬即逝的东西凝固成实体？我究竟是什么，真实的又是什么？我又如何看待和相信自己是什么？我们是否有兴趣从每一刻中探究这神奇的</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">自我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">现象？这是否也许正是闭关修行的精髓所在？在超越我们所寻求甚至可能已获得的那份平静与寂静之后，更加细微地探索自己；以求对那种被称为</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">与</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">他人</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">的深刻分离感有更清晰的认识，而无需对其进行谴责或刻意超越。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Now — is there such an entity as “me,” “I,”
“myself?” Or is it just like the “weather” — an ongoing, ever changing stream
of ideas, images, memories, projections, likes and dislikes, creations and
destructions, which thought keeps calling “I,” “me,” “Toni,” and thereby
solidifying what is evanescent? What am I really, truly, and what do I think
and believe I am? Are we interested in exploring this amazing affair of
“myself” from moment to moment? Is this, maybe, the essence of retreat work?
Exploring ourselves minutely beyond the peace and quiet that we are seeking and
maybe finding. Coming upon clarity about this deep sense of separation which we
call “me,” and “other people,” without any need to condemn or overcome.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">大多数人理所当然地认为，我就是</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">，而这个</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">就是这具身体、这颗心，以及那种明显使自己与他人分离的知识和感受。我们彼此交谈时使用的语言，总是不由自主地暗示着各自独立的</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">和</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">你</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">。我们每个人都不停地谈论</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">和</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">你</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">，思考、书写、阅读、梦见这些词语，几乎没有停顿。这种对</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我</span>”——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">独立于他人的存在感</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">的不断强化，使我们感到孤立、隔离、未被理解。如果把分离视为理所当然，以至于成为常识，又如何能触及真相呢？</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Most human beings take it totally for granted that I
am “me,” and that “me” is this body, this mind, this knowledge and sense about
myself which so obviously feels separate from other people. The language in
which we talk to ourselves and to each other inevitably implies separate
“me’s,” and “you’s” all the time. All of us talk “I” and “you” talk, we think
it, write it, read it, and dream it with rarely any pause. There is incessant
reinforcement of the sense of “I,” “me,” separate from others. Isolated.
Insulated. Not understood. How is one to come upon the truth if separation is
taken so much for granted, feels so common sense?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">但这一难题并非不可克服。完整、真实的存在就像隐藏在云层之后的太阳，始终存在；尽管有云遮蔽，白昼依旧普照。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">The difficulty is not insurmountable. Wholeness,
true being, is here all the time, like the sun behind the clouds. Daylight is
here in spite of cloud cover.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">云彩是由什么构成的？</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">What makes up the clouds?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我们能否开始意识到，我们生活在关于自我的概念化、抽象的观念中？而我们却很少直接触及正在发生的真实事物？我们能否认识到，关于自我的念头</span>——“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我好</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">或</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我不好</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">，</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我受欢迎</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">或</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">不受欢迎</span>”——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">不过是念头，而念头并不能告诉我们真正的我是什么？念头就是念头，它会立即引发全身心的生理反应、快感与痛苦。生理反应又会进一步激发出关于自我的念头和感受</span>——“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我在受苦</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">、</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我很快乐</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">、</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我一无是处</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">。这些反馈暗示着这一切都是</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">，暗示着我受到了伤害，或者某种程度上对自己感到良好，或觉得我需要保护自己，或需要从他人那里获得更多的认可与爱。当我们在日常人际关系中保护自己时，我们并非是在防御飞来的石块或炸弹，而正是为了躲避言语、手势、声调的变化及暗示。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Can we begin to realize that we live in conceptual,
abstract ideas about ourselves? That we are rarely directly in touch with what
actually is going on? Can we realize that thoughts about myself — I am good or
bad, I’m liked or disliked — are nothing but thoughts — and that thoughts do
not tell us the truth about what we really are? A thought is a thought, and it
triggers instant physical reactions, pleasures and pains throughout the
bodymind. Physical reactions generate further thoughts and feelings about myself
— “I’m suffering,” “I’m happy,” “I’m no good.” Feedback that implies that all
this is me, that I have gotten hurt, or somehow feel good about myself, or that
I need to defend myself, or get more approval and love from others. When we’re
protecting ourselves in our daily interrelationships we’re not protecting
ourselves from flying stones or bomb attacks. It’s from words we’re taking
cover, from gestures, from colorations of voice and innuendo.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">就在刚才，有人说：</span>“……</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我们在保护自己</span>……</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我们在寻找避难所。</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">使用我们日常的语言，总会隐含着这样一个意思：有某个真实存在在保护，而也有某个真实存在需要被保护。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Just now words were spoken, “. . . we’re protecting
ourselves, . . . we’re taking cover.” In using our common language the
implication is constantly created that there is someone real who is protecting
and someone real that needs protection.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">那么，到底有没有某个真实存在需要从言语和手势中受到保护？还是我们仅仅生活在关于</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">和</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">你</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">的观念与故事之中，而这一切都在我们那不断播放的自我音像剧场上上演？</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Is there someone real to be protected from words and
gestures, or are we merely living in ideas and stories about me and you, all of
it happening on the stage of the on-going audio/video drama of ourselves?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我们需要极其细致、冷静地跟随内在的戏剧，准确无偏地观察，从而将其如实表达。我们所说的</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">被使人感觉良好</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">或</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">受到伤害</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">，指的是那不断演绎的我故事的内在强化，或是它被戳破、被放气。无论是我故事的增强还是扰动，都会伴随着贯穿全身的愉悦能量或痛苦的感觉与情绪。只需一句话，便可让人感受到温暖或寒意</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">那句话唤起了记忆、感受与激情。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">The utmost care and attention is needed to follow
the internal drama fairly accurately, dispassionately, in order to express it
as it is seen. What we mean by “being made to feel good” or “being hurt” is the
internal enhancing of our ongoing me-story, or the puncturing and deflating of
it. Enhancement or disturbance of the me-story is accompanied by pleasurable
energies or painful feelings and emotions throughout the organism. Either
warmth or chill can be felt at the drop of a word evoking memories, feelings,
passions.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">此刻话语正在被说出，我们可以从字面和理智上去理解它们。如果这些话语构造得相当清晰且合乎逻辑，那么它们在理智上便是通畅的。也许起初必须从理智上了解我们内心正在发生的事，但那并不是全部。所说的话语指向的，可能是可以直接在内心中看见和感受到的东西；而随着谈话的进行，从这一刻到谈话结束之后（乃至闭关之后），我们是否能以全新、清醒、直接的方式体验当受到伤害或奉承时所发生的种种？究竟发生了什么？什么在受伤？又是什么使伤害持续？是否可以觉察到防御心的产生、恐惧与愤怒的形成或退缩的发生</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">所有这些都伴随着某种故事情节？整个戏剧能否变得越来越透明？在这种日益透明之中，能否彻底被质疑？究竟是什么在受到保护？究竟是什么让人觉得受伤？是</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">吗？我究竟是什么？</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Right now words are being spoken, and they can be
followed literally, intellectually. If they are fairly clearly and logically
put together they can make sense intellectually. Perhaps at first it’s
necessary to understand what is going on in us intellectually. But that’s not
the whole thing. The words that are spoken point to something that may be
directly seen and felt, inwardly, as the talk proceeds. And as we go along from
moment to moment, now and after the talk is over, (and after retreat) can we experience
freshly, wakefully, directly, when hurt or flattery are taking place? What is
happening? What is being hurt? And what keeps the hurt going? Can there be some
awareness of defenses arising, fear and anger forming, or withdrawal taking
place, all accompanied by some kind of storyline? Can the whole drama become
increasingly transparent? And, in becoming increasingly transparent, can it be
thoroughly questioned? What is it that is being protected? What is it that one
thinks got hurt? Me? What is me?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">这真是奇妙。一丝觉知的火花见证了一句言语在全身引发快感或痛苦。那种联系能否变得清晰？那种即时性显现出来，却没有任何</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">的实体去指挥它，尽管我们口头和心中都宣称并相信我们在做这一切。但我们也会说，我们并不愿那样做。言语与反应沿着精密运作的路径和相互关联的网络流动。一念生起关于失落的想法，太阳神经丛随之紧缩而生疼痛；而关于爱的幻想出现时，则随之引发一片快感的海洋。是谁在制造这一切？念头说：</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">是我！</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">那这一切究竟发生在谁身上？念头说：</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">当然是在我身上！</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">但是，除去所有念头与情感、那跳动的心、在全身循环的痛苦与快感能量，这个</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">究竟在哪里，又究竟是什么？谁能以如此惊人的速度和精确度完成这一切？思索自我并触发生理反应需要时间，而当下的觉知却能瞬间将整个戏剧揭示出来。所有的一切都在自行发生，没有人来指挥这出戏！</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">It is amazing. A spark of awareness witnessing one
spoken word arousing pleasure or pain all over. Can the connection become
clear? The immediacy of it, and no I-entity there directing it, even though we
say and believe we are doing all that. But we also say that we don’t want to do
that. Words and reaction proceed along well-oiled pathways and
interconnections. A thought of loss comes up and the solar plexus tightens in
pain. Fantasy of love-making occurs and an ocean of pleasure ensues. Who does
it? Thought says, “I do!” To whom is it happening? Thought says, “To me of
course!” But, where and what is this I, this me, aside from all the thoughts
and feelings, the palpitating heart, painful and pleasurable energies
circulating throughout the organism? Who could possibly be doing it all with
such amazing speed and precision? Thinking about ourselves and triggering
physiological reactions take time, but present awareness brings the whole drama
to light instantly. Everything is happening on its own. No one is directing the
show!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">此刻风暴正肆虐，枝条吱吱作响，叶子颤抖。这一切都体现在倾听中</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">但这倾听究竟是谁的？是我的？是你的？我们会说：</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我在倾听</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">，或</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我听不如你</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">，而这些话使得心灵充满了早已习得的情感与情绪。你或许会抗议：</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我的听觉不是你的。你的身体也不是我的。</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我们数千年来一直这么认为并据此行事，但如今，是否可以仅仅听到摇曳的树木、沙沙作响的叶子，以及透过窗户吹来、使皮肤感到凉爽的清新空气？这并不是发生在某一个人身上，而是对我们所有人而言都</span></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">纯粹地呈现<span class="s2">，不是吗？</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Right this moment wind is storming, branches are
creaking and leaves quivering. It’s all here in the listening — but whose
listening is it? Mine? Yours? We say, “I’m listening” or, “I cannot listen as
well as you do” and these words befuddle the mind with feelings and emotions
learned long ago. You may be protesting that “my hearing isn’t yours. Your body
isn’t mine.” We have thought like that for eons and behave accordingly, but
presently, can there be just the sound of swaying trees and rustling leaves and
fresh air blowing through the window cooling the skin? It’s not happening to
anyone. It’s simply present for all of us, isn’t it?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我听起来是不是仿佛在试图说服你些什么？那种努力以简单、清晰方式传达的热情，可能会被误解为试图影响他人。但事实并非如此。这里只是描述着我们所有人正在经历的现实。没有什么需要买卖的。我们能否仅仅倾听，并自行验证每一刻所呈现给我们的探索？</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Do I sound as though I’m trying to convince you of
something? The passion arising in trying to communicate simply, clearly, may be
misunderstood for a desire to influence people. That’s not the case. There is
just the description of what is happening here for all of us. Nothing to be
sold or bought. Can we simply listen and test out on our own what is being
offered for exploration from moment to moment?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">那么，那不断受到伤害、被吸引、被奉承的</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">究竟是什么？从心理学角度来说，我们说我们与自己产生了认同；而在灵性语言中，我们说我们依恋于自己。这个</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">自我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">究竟是什么？是感受到自己的存在，知道我是什么，拥有大量关于自己的记忆</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">所有关于我的观念、图像与感受串联成一部连贯的故事？而且对这部故事了解得如此透彻</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">无数记忆，有的添加，有的删除，全都互相连接</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我是什么，我长什么样，我的能力与缺陷如何，我的教育、家庭、姓名、喜好与厌恶、观点、信仰等等。对这一切的认同意味着</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">这就是我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">；而对它的依恋则意味着</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我无法放下它。</span>”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">What is the “me” that gets hurt or attracted,
flattered, time and time again, the world over? In psychological terms we say
that we are identified with ourselves. In spiritual language we say, that we
are attached to ourselves. What is this “ourselves?” Is it feeling myself
existing, knowing what I am, having lots of recollections about myself — all
the ideas and pictures and feelings about myself strung together in a coherent
story? And knowing this story very well — multitudes of memories, some added,
some dropped, all inter-connected — what I am, how I look, what my abilities
and disabilities are, my education, my family, my name, my likes and dislikes,
opinions, beliefs, etc., etc. The identification with all of that, meaning,
“This is what I am.” And the attachment to it, meaning, “I can’t let go of it.”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">让我们超越概念，直接探究我们所指的那些概念。如果有人说，</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我认同我的姓氏</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">，那究竟是什么意思呢？举个例子：作为一个成长中的孩子，我曾非常认同我的姓氏，因为那是我父亲的，而且据说他很有名。我喜欢向别人讲述我父亲的科学成就，以此赢得尊重并让自己感受到愉悦，通过给朋友留下深刻印象来获得满足。我通过他人的目光感受到钦佩，哪怕那些目光可能根本不存在，可能只是投射。也许有人甚至会觉得，</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">她真无聊！</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">在我们公寓的入口处，有一块小巧擦亮的黄铜铭牌，上面刻着我父亲的名字和他的头衔：教授，博士</span>
Phil</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">。我对</span>“Phil”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">印象尤为深刻，因为我认为那意味着我父亲是一位哲学家，而实际上他并非如此。我一定认为哲学家是个格外令人敬畏的人。所以我便告诉一些朋友，并带他们去看那块黄铜铭牌。这便是认同的一种含义</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">通过吸收关于他人或团体、或者关于自己的观念、成就、过失</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">任何东西</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">来增强自我感觉，并认为这一切都是</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">。对自我的重要性感受能激发出惊人且令人上瘾的能量。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Let’s go beyond concepts and look directly into what
we mean by them. If one says, “I’m identified with my family name,” what does
that mean? Let me give an example. As a growing child I was very much
identified with my last name because it was my father’s and he was famous — so
I was told. I liked to tell others about my father’s scientific achievements to
garner respect and pleasurable feelings for myself by impressing friends. I
felt admiration through other people’s eyes which may not even have been there.
It may have been projected. Perhaps some people even felt, “What a bore she
is!” On the entrance door to our apartment there was a little polished brass
sign with my father’s name on it and his titles: Professor, Doctor Phil. The
Phil impressed me particularly, because I thought it meant that my father was a
philosopher, which he was not. I must have had the idea that a philosopher was
a particularly imposing individual. So I told some of my friends about it and
brought them to look at the little brass sign at the door. This is one meaning
of identification — enhancing one’s sense of self by incorporating the ideas
about other individuals or groups, or one’s possessions, achievements,
transgressions — anything — and feeling that all of this is “me.” Feeling
important about oneself generates amazing, addictive energies.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">再举一个过去的例子：我曾非常认同我那半犹太血统。并非在德国公开表达，因为我大多选择隐藏而非展示这一点；而在战后，当我向人们讲述我们家族的命运，并因此获得热情的关注、立刻的同情以及滋养般的兴趣时，这种认同变得格外强烈。人很容易沉迷于让自己的人生故事在他人和自己面前显得光彩夺目，并以此吸取激发出的能量。这便是认同与依恋的一部分。而当这种依恋被他人质疑、否定或彻底挑战时，就会突然产生不安全感、身体不适、愤怒、恐惧、伤害等反应。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">To give another example from the past: I became very
identified with my half-Jewish descent. Not openly in Germany, where I mostly
tried to hide it rather than display it, but later on after the war ended,
telling people of our family’s fate, and finding welcome attention, instant
sympathy, and nourishing interest in the story. One can become quite addicted
to making the story of one’s life impressive to others and to oneself, and feed
on the energies aroused by that. So that’s a bit of what identification and
attachment are about. And when that is disturbed by someone not buying into it,
contesting it or questioning it altogether, there is sudden insecurity,
physical discomfort, anger, fear, hurt, whatever.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">成为禅修中心的一员并从事灵性修行后，我有一天意识到自己已经很久没有谈论过自己的背景。而现在，当有人提起这一话题时</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">有时采访者会要求我谈谈这方面的事</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">总觉得既麻烦又费力。为何要翻旧账？我想谈论的是倾听、风和鸟。</span>[</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">笑声</span>] </span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">采访者，你在倾听吗？还是你更对身份和故事感兴趣？</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Becoming a member of the Zen Center and engaging in
spiritual practice, I realized one day that I had not been talking about my
background in a long while. And now, when somebody brings it up — sometimes an
interviewer will ask me to talk about it — it feels like so much bother and
effort. Why delve into old stuff? I want to talk about listening, the wind, and
the birds. [Laughter] Are you listening too, interviewer? Or are you more
interested in identities and stories?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">有时人们会问：既然我如此明显地在教导，为何我不自称为教师？今天早上就有人提出这一问题</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">在会议室外等待时以及紧张地带着心跳进入时，各种投射和心理联想纷至沓来。教师与学生的形象仿佛自动地像衣服般呈现出来，让人去穿戴、去扮演这些角色。然而，在讲座和与人会面时，这种师生形象却不存在</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">它属于另一种存在层次。如果形象真的浮现出来，它们就会像遮蔽太阳的云一样挡住光芒。没有形象的交往，是宇宙中最新鲜、最自由的体验。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">At times people bring up the question about why I
don’t call myself a teacher when I’m so obviously engaged in teaching. Somebody
actually brought it up this morning — the projections and mental as well as
psychological associations aroused in waiting outside the meeting room and then
entering nervously with a pounding heart. The images of teacher and student
offering themselves automatically like clothes to put on and roles to play in
these clothes. In giving talks and meeting with people the student-teacher
imagery is not there — it belongs to a different level of existence. If images
do come up they’re in the way like clouds hiding the sun. Relating without
images is the freshest, freest thing in the universe.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">那么，我是什么，你又是什么</span>——</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我们在没有形象为衣装、遮蔽我们真实本性时究竟是什么？这真是难以用形象来表达，不是吗？然而，依然可以听到风吹过、树木摇晃、乌鸦呱呱叫、木质结构吱呀作响、呼吸自然而然地流动，而这一切都不需要任何念头的介入。念头只不过是附着在当下真实发生之事之上的外在附加，而我们大部分生命正是在这附加的世界中度过。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">So, what am I and what are you — what are we with-
out images clothing and hiding our true being? It’s un-image-inable, isn’t it?
And yet there’s the sound of wind blowing, trees shaking, crows cawing,
woodwork creaking, breath flowing without need for any thoughts. Thoughts are
grafted on top of what’s actually going on right now, and in that grafted world
we happen to spend most of our lives.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">然而，无论一个人是否从事灵性修行、是否打坐，偶尔真实的世界总会奇妙地透过一切显现出来。当言语归于沉寂，当一切未知，当没有听者而又有倾听、觉知而无分离时，那又究竟是什么？</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">And yet, every once in a while, whether one does
spiritual work or not, meditating or not, the real world shines wondrously
through everything. What is it when words fall silent? When there is no
knowing? When there is no listener and yet there is listening, awaring, without
any separation?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我不禁想起一次瑞士探访父母时的情景。我与母亲的关系一直颇为艰难，我曾非常害怕她。她是个充满激情、时常愤怒的女人，但她也充满了爱。在那次探访中，我曾看到她站在餐厅里对着我。她就那样静静地站着，莫名其妙地，我突然看见了一个没有过去包袱的她。她的形象消失了，也没有任何关于她如何看待我的念头。所有这一切都消散了，只剩下对这位女性纯粹的爱。她身上散发出如此耀眼的美丽，我们之间的关系也因此改变，变得更加亲密。它就那样自然而然地发生了。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">A moment during a visit with my parents in
Switzerland comes to mind. I had always had a difficult relationship with my
mother. I was very afraid of her. She was a very passionate woman with lots of
anger. But also love. Once during that visit I saw her standing in the dining
room facing me. She was just standing there, and for no known reason or cause I
suddenly saw her without the past. There was no image of her, and also no idea
of what she saw in me. All that was gone. There was nothing left except pure
love for this woman. Such beauty shone out of her. And our relationship
changed, there was a new closeness. It just happened.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">有人说，看见破碎的形象会引发悲伤。但自我形象的破碎并不必然造成痛苦。真正看见</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">只不过是一个习惯性的心灵构造，这种觉知能带来超乎想象的解放。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Someone said that seeing a shattered image caused
grief. But the shattering of self-image need not cause suffering. Truly seeing
that the “me” is nothing but a habitual mental construct is freeing beyond
imagination.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Toni Packer </span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">於</span> 1967 </span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">年开始在罗切斯特禅修中心跟随罗氏</span> Philip Kapleau </span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">学习禅宗。</span>1981 </span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">年，她在纽约春水镇创立了春水静思中心。摘自</span>
Toni Packer </span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">的《临在的奇迹》和《静思探究之道》。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Toni Packer began studying Zen in 1967 with Roshi
Philip Kapleau at the Rochester Zen Center. In 1981, she founded the
Springwater Center for Meditative Inquiry in Springwater, New York. From The
Wonder of Presence and the Way of Meditative Inquiry, by Toni Packer.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">标签：无我，非二元，自我，</span>Toni Packer 0 </span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">条评论</span> | |</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">Labels: Anatta, Non Dual, Self, Toni Packer 0
comments | |</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">简体中文翻译：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">“</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">原文：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2">“</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">【本部分完毕】</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s1"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">解释说明：</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><span class="s2">1.</span><span class="apple-tab-span"> </span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">本次翻译严格遵循原文段落的顺序和结构，每个段落均先给出完整的简体中文翻译，紧接着完整复现原文，未作任何删减、总结或释义。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2"><span class="s2">2.</span><span class="apple-tab-span"> </span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">针对</span>“me”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">、</span>“self”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">等词汇，翻译时依据上下文采用了常规的</span>“</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我</span>”</span><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">表达，以区分习惯性自我，而非终极大我。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p3"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="p1"><span class="s2"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: DengXian; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">如需继续翻译其它部分，请告知。</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p 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